Something Is Happening Of Historic Proportions

[AnalProbe]

Source - Rense

I am a student of history. Professionally. I have written 15 books in six languages, and have studied it all my life. I think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is just a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.

Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten - fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.

We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?

We learn just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the 700B we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of "we the people," who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.

We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy. Why?

We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?

We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (now violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it wants marriage to remain between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?). We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?

Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is medicare and our entire government, our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and know precisely what I am talking about)the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth. It is potentially 1929 x ten. And we are at war with an enemy we cannot name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.

And now we have elected a man no one knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla, Alaska. All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe is more imporant.)

Mr. Obama's winning platform can be boiled down to one word: change.

Why?

I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.

This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.

And that is only the beginning.

And I thought I would never be able to experience what the ordinary, moral German felt in the mid-1930s. In those times, the savior was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they did know was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory and promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his "brown shirts" would bully them into submission. And then, he was duly elected to office, a full-throttled economic crisis at hand [the Great Depression]. Slowly but surely he seized the controls of government power, department by department, person by person, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The kids joined a Youth Movement in his name, where they were taught what to think. How did he get the people on his side? He did it promising jobs to the jobless, money to the moneyless, and goodies for the military- industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe, and across the world.

He did it with a compliant mediadid you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and . . . change. And the people surely got what they voted for.

(Look it up if you think I am exaggerating.)

Read your history books. Many people objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and made fun of. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though.

Don't forget that Germany was the most educated, cultured country in Europe. It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And in less than six yearsa shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidencyit was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.

As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me.

Some people scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. Perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believeand why I believe it.

I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am.

[EscortBiz]

Source - Rense

The end

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by AnalProbe

I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am.

praying fails, thinking wins.

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

Source - Rense

The end

You're such a good little clone.

Everything on CNN is absolutely true and everything on Rense is absolutely false, right?

[HomerSimpson]

interesting read...

[Machete_]

when the US citizens are done killing each-other I will buy California from Mexico.

[teentime]

Interesting post

[AnalProbe]

[NaughtyRob]

Definitely some interesting points made.

[Machete_]

Ok - if I can be serious a second
I you found some images to illustrate some of the content, and then produced a video of it, where you were reading it out loud to the images as a slideshow. THAT video would make you 500.000 hits on youtube

[papill0n]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

Source - Rense

The end

yeah ignore it all and let god sort it out

[The Duck]

The collapse of the american empire is afoot. Then the new world order plan will go into full swing.

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by AnalProbe

In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines...

Thanks for someone's "assessment".
Now I'll go read a few

[AnalProbe]

Originally Posted by kandah

The collapse of the american empire is afoot. Then the new world order plan will go into full swing.

Don't let anyone tell you that you're wrong.

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by StuartD

Thanks for someone's "assessment".
Now I'll go read a few

wtf? Half my post disappeared.
I had put "Now I'll go read a few thousand other assessments and draw my own conclusions somewhere down the middle."

[Martin]

[SilentKnight]

This is one of those posts I hope gets bumped four years from now - for comparison to the reality of the moment.

Boiled down - a 'student of history' is suggesting that President-elect Barack Obama will rise up to become the new modern-day incarnation of Adolf Hitler.

(excuse me while I chuckle over that awhile...)

Let's revisit this again sometime, eh.

[iMind]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

This is one of those posts I hope gets bumped four years from now - for comparison to the reality of the moment.

Boiled down - a 'student of history' is suggesting that President-elect Barack Obama will rise up to become the new modern-day incarnation of Adolf Hitler.

(excuse me while I chuckle over that awhile...)

Let's revisit this again sometime, eh.

I hope your right.
but I feel your wrong.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by SilentKnight

This is one of those posts I hope gets bumped four years from now - for comparison to the reality of the moment.

Boiled down - a 'student of history' is suggesting that President-elect Barack Obama will rise up to become the new modern-day incarnation of Adolf Hitler.

(excuse me while I chuckle over that awhile...)

Let's revisit this again sometime, eh.

Exactly... it's the dumbest thing I've read in a long time.

[AnalProbe]

Originally Posted by Mike33

Exactly... it's the dumbest thing I've read in a long time.

Something tells me that it is the first thing you have read since a long time.

[Big John]

The thing that I find amazing is that anyone with enough intelligence/education to be able to read that cannot see the gaping holes in the logic and arguments all the way through it

However, it does have one valid point. The fact that the writer is a student is proof enough of his condemnation of the education system. It certainly failed him.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by AnalProbe

Something tells me that it is the first thing you have read since a long time.

OK Boneprone

[AnalProbe]

Originally Posted by Big John

The thing that I find amazing is that anyone with enough intelligence/education to be able to read that cannot see the gaping holes in the logic and arguments all the way through it

However, it does have one valid point. The fact that the writer is a student is proof enough of his condemnation of the education system. It certainly failed him.

Says "Big John" with 424 posts, living in "Never Never Land".

[Martin]

Obama is going to change America. No doubt, he's the friendly face of the Illuminati. They're all related, all have the same plans.

[iMind]

Originally Posted by Mike33

OK Boneprone

uhh, you're thinking AnalHobbit...

I don't think AnalProbe is boneprone.

[BlackCrayon]

wow, an obvious republican who would be singing a totally different tune had mccain been elected. Nothing to see here.

[AnalProbe]

Originally Posted by iMind

uhh, you're thinking AnalHobbit...

I don't think AnalProbe is boneprone.

Stop thinking... just a hint...

Some people know who I am... [L] all the way... surprised ?

[Drake]

Originally Posted by iMind

uhh, you're thinking AnalHobbit...

I don't think AnalProbe is boneprone.

It might as well be AnalHobbit.

This article plus the dubious assertion that Hitler was part Jewish (https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/871398-jews-robbing-america-blind-2.html) speaks volumes.

[AnalProbe]

Originally Posted by Mike33

It might as well be AnalHobbit.

This article plus the dubious assertion that Hitler was part Jewish (https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/871398-jews-robbing-america-blind-2.html) speaks volumes.

Dubious ?

[Drake]

Originally Posted by AnalProbe

Dubious ?

How about patently false.

[TheDoc]

I can't wait to laugh at all you morons. Stupidest post ever!

[AnalProbe]

Originally Posted by Mike33

How about patently false.

Show proof in THAT thread, not here.

I am not boneprone, and I am not AnalHobbit, If gave you the best hint a few post ago.

[AnalProbe]

Please replace "jews" with "zionists".

[April777]

The whole reason history is taught in school, is because to ignore it is stupid. We study history becasue we can learn from it and not make the same mistakes again. There is no telling where this country is headed and no predicting what Obama will or won't do while he is in office. However I do know that the country I live in today, is not the same country I lived in 10-15 years ago. America is in a sad, sad, state of affairs, and I can only hope and pray that we will overcome. I hope Obama will be able to help lead this country in the direction it needs to go (but I seriously doubt it!)

[AnalProbe]

The United States was the world's undisputed military and economic leader.

But today, with the current credit crisis partly rooted in America, and with the rising economic might of China and a unified Europe, that dominance is being challenged.

"The Europeans see themselves as taking a position equal to the U.S.," said Irene Finel-Honigman, an international affairs professor at Columbia University specializing in international banking. "We're looking at a different composition of players and a different powerplay. It's going to be fascinating to watch."

-Europe's heavy hand-

To bolster their position, the Europeans are emboldened by their belief that the credit crisis didn't originate on their soil.

They say that means the more tightly regulated European banking model has triumphed over the more lax laws favored in America.

"The initial response was accusing the U.S. of cowboy capitalism," said Finel-Honigman. "But as the weeks passed, it's become clear we're all in this together."

Together or not, deep divisions still exist between the United States and the Europeans, who initially will be pushing an agenda heavy on new rules.

Their proposals include: Greater oversight of hedge funds and investment banks; increasing how much money banks need to keep in reserve; more transparent and universal accounting standards; and limits on executive pay.

All that would be accompanied by a new global network of regulators -regulators that would presumably have power over U.S. banks, a potential non-starter with the Bush administration.

"Self-regulation to solve all problems, it's finished," French President Nicholas Sarkozy was quoted saying in the Guardian newspaper last month. "Laissez-faire, it's finished. The all-powerful market that is always right, it's finished."

Moreover, the Europeans are expected to come to the talks presenting a more united front than ever. And they are likely to use one voiceto gain international support to counter U.S. policies which many blame for this crisis.

-The United States-

For the United States, the main goal will be to derail many of these new regulations, said Robert Brusca, chief economist at Fact and Opinion Economics, a Manhattan consultancy.

It's a goal Brusca seems to fully support.

"The last thing we need is another powerless, toothless, cumbersome global agency," he said. "You need to let [banks] run their business, the government isn't going to run it any better."

The Bush Administration is of the same mindset.

While Bush has agreed some more regulation is needed, particularly when it comes to unifying accounting standards and increasing transparency, he is wary of too much government involvement.

"We must recognize that government intervention is not a cure-all," Bush said in statement just before the summit Thursday, which seemed almost designed to temper European expectations. "History has shown that the greater threat to economic prosperity is not too little government involvement in the market - but too much."

Brusca said the United States should instead focus on what he views as more fundamental causes of this economic crisis - mainly China's unwillingness to let its currency, the yuan, rise in value.

The low yuan, Brusca argues, makes Chinese goods unfairly competitive, and prods U.S. consumers to buy too much. This gives China its huge trade surplus, which it has used to buy U.S. Treasurys, mortgage-backed securities and other products that allowed all these banks to lend so freely in the first place.

"They have abused the rules of the game, and politically, this is very dangerous," he said.

The Bush administration may raise this issue at the talks. Getting China to raise the yuan was, after all, one of the administration's highest priorities just a few years ago.
China, Russia, and everyone else

When a consensus is achieved by the G-20 it carries a lot of weight. With its 19 nations plus the European Union, it represents 90% of the world's economy and 75% of its population. But reaching a consensus is the toughest part for such a big and powerful group.

And at this summit, China, Russia, and most developing countries will be pushing for more power, not just within the G-20, but in other, more exclusive clubs like the G-7, the World Trade Organization, and the International Monetary Fund.

With all these nations pushing for such disparate things, it's unlikely much will get done, at least this time around.

The Europeans are unlikely to push China to reform its currency because of what China will likely ask in return, said Sebastian Mallaby, a senior fellow for international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations.

"China isn't going to give up its export-led growth strategy for the sake of the international system unless it gets a bigger stake in that system - meaning a much bigger voice within the International Monetary Fund and a corresponding reduction in Europe's exaggerated influence," Mallaby wrote in a recent op-ed in the Wall Street Journal. "Naturally, the Europeans aren't proposing it."

And despite America coming to the table with a black eye from selling these rotten mortgage backed securities around the globe, nearly everyone says the country, with its massive economy and long history of solid stewardship, is still in the driver's seat when it comes to setting worldwide economic policy.

"There is no other country that could offer the leadership that would cause the G-20 to come up with anything even worth thinking about," said George Magnus, a senior economic advisor at the Swiss bank UBS.

That means the Europeans are unlikely to get the type of oversight they're proposing.

Combine the wide range of interests, the complexity of the problem, and the fact that the U.S. is being represented by a lame duck president - Barack Obama is not expected to attend - and it's unlikely anything will get accomplished besides, maybe, a commitment to meet again.

"I have quite low expectations of what's likely to be achieved," said Magnus. "This is just the beginning of a long and crucial dialogue."

[onwebcam]

The Money Masters Have their hands in the cookie jars of all the developed countries in the world. That's why they are all collapsing. Educate yourself so we can cut off their hands.

The only countries they don't have them in are at the bottom of this list and those labeled terrorist countries

http://www.heritage.org/Index/countries.cfm

[Peter Romero]

Yeah, something is happening: Fear is ruling the Earth. Have a Taco already.

[aico]

Originally Posted by iMind

I hope your right.
but I feel your wrong.

perfect example of the failing education points he made

[Arrick]

Seems like the simple fact that this close-knit community is even at odds with each other on this topic shows how universally divided our great nation is. I'm not saying I particularly agree or disagree with the doomsday logic that the writer employs but I do wholeheartedly agree with the perfect storm brewing logic.

The article writer doesn't actually seem Republican in his ideology, it seems more closely aligned to Libertarianism. In which case, yeah he probably would have been more comfortable with McCain being elected. Not because he's a right winger necessarily. If you look at McCain's views in the past, he's actually just as closely aligned to the Democratic party as to his own party in practice.

I personally do not like Communists being considered extreme left, and libertarians being considered extreme right. It's more a North, South, East, West division.

[Redrob]

The christo-nazis are really pissed.

They think somebody stole their white, anglo/saxon, fundamentalism based country.

They are in a holy war to protect us from the sodomites, commies, socialist, scientists and illegal aliens with Sarah Palin as the new Joan of Arc.

Follow the news from their point of view as they organize their teams of lawyers at Alliance Defense Fund

Good show and source of daily news.

[StickyGreen]

There are those who know that old Jewish/European bankers steer world affairs and there are those who don't. Those who don't need to fucking catch up already...

Especially idiots like the guy in this thread who thinks the author would be saying something different if McCain had been elected. The sad thing is most Americans are still like him, hence the blind following of whichever Democrat or Republican crook they throw at them. They know nothing of Obama's and McCain's connections to the international bankers. This is all still crazy talk to most people... they will laugh about it and dismiss it without even investigating for themselves what all these "crazy" people are talking about. It's pretty much too late anyways, we're all in the same boat and we will see what happens. Tyranny is almost ready to be brought in, maybe under Obama, or maybe under the next puppet after him, it doesn't really matter to the international bankers.

No one likes to discuss this shit though, they would rather post 14 laughing smilies with some guy wearing a tin-foil hat, and then go back to their utopian fantasy world.

[AnalProbe]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

There are those who know that old Jewish/European bankers steer world affairs and there are those who don't. Those who don't need to fucking catch up already...

Especially idiots like the guy in this thread who thinks the author would be saying something different if McCain had been elected. The sad thing is most Americans are still like him, hence the blind following of whichever Democrat or Republican crook they throw at them. They know nothing of Obama's and McCain's connections to the international bankers. This is all still crazy talk to most people... they will laugh about it and dismiss it without even investigating for themselves what all these "crazy" people are talking about. It's pretty much too late anyways, we're all in the same boat and we will see what happens. Tyranny is almost ready to be brought in, maybe under Obama, or maybe under the next puppet after him, it doesn't really matter to the international bankers.

No one likes to discuss this shit though, they would rather post 14 laughing smilies with some guy wearing a tin-foil hat, and then go back to their utopian fantasy world.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

[GregE]

What a lot of people don't know is that, aside from the communists, the German voters had already given every other political party in the country a shot at fixing that country's problems before turning to Hitler.

In other words, the German people, after fourteen years of economic chaos, were already scraping what they themselves saw as the bottom of the barrel before selecting Hitler out of sheer desperation.

Methinks that we here in the USA have got a ways to go yet before things get quite that bad here.

[Robbie]

I have to wonder...if it wasn't for 24 hour news channels and the internet....would 99% of the people know or even give a shit about this economy?

Shit has been bad before...the late 1970's was REAL bad. And everybody could tell it when you were waiting in lines to get gas.

Or how about 1982? The unemployment rate in Nov. 1982 was 10.8% The unemployment rate for last month was 6.5%

I can't help but feel that a lot of really smart guys are making a FORTUNE off of this bullshit "bailout" and most people are believing the hype and media circus that is being presented to us.

Yeah, things are bad. But economists haven't even been able to say for sure that we were in a recession until this last month. Whoopty-doo. I've seen a couple of recessions before. There just weren't any 24 hour news channels whipping up hysteria to boost ratings and/or internet "experts" giving their opinions.

The real situation is probably a lot less severe than we are being led to believe. At least from what I've seen in my lifetime, includintg 1982 when the unemployment rate was nearly twice what it is now.

[Robbie]

And I forgot to add...in 1982 when things were so "bad", I was living in Miami making real good money playing in my band 7 nights a week at big nice clubs that were packed every night with people partying and spending money.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

There are those who know that old Jewish/European bankers steer world affairs and there are those who don't. Those who don't need to fucking catch up already...

Especially idiots like the guy in this thread who thinks the author would be saying something different if McCain had been elected. The sad thing is most Americans are still like him, hence the blind following of whichever Democrat or Republican crook they throw at them. They know nothing of Obama's and McCain's connections to the international bankers. This is all still crazy talk to most people... they will laugh about it and dismiss it without even investigating for themselves what all these "crazy" people are talking about. It's pretty much too late anyways, we're all in the same boat and we will see what happens. Tyranny is almost ready to be brought in, maybe under Obama, or maybe under the next puppet after him, it doesn't really matter to the international bankers.

No one likes to discuss this shit though, they would rather post 14 laughing smilies with some guy wearing a tin-foil hat, and then go back to their utopian fantasy world.

If you really don't think that this guy would never have written such an article if McCain won, I'd say you're the one thats blind. Its obvious this guy supported the republican ticket just by what he says in the article. People have been saying these same kinds of things on conspiracy boards for years, and they will continue to say it on those same boards for years, thinking how lucky they are they know the real truth, they real answers when really they are just wasting their lives, waiting for something that most likely, will never come. The truth is out there but you're not going to find it on the internet in your parents basement.

[Peter Romero]

Originally Posted by Robbie

And I forgot to add...in 1982 when things were so "bad", I was living in Miami making real good money playing in my band 7 nights a week at big nice clubs that were packed every night with people partying and spending money.

And throughout history - when things get bad - people escape with ENTERTAINMENT!!!

[GregE]

Originally Posted by kandah

The collapse of the american empire is afoot. Then the new world order plan will go into full swing.

[AnalProbe]

Originally Posted by Peter Romero

And throughout history - when things get bad - people escape with ENTERTAINMENT!!!

Ignorance is bliss ?

[V_RocKs]

I never knew who Bill Clinton was until he ran for President. I didn't know who George H Bush was until he was our Vice President. I didn't know who anyone but Hillary Clinton and Giuliani were... I didn't know who Al Gore was until he was Vice President...

That is kind of how shit happens unless you were a California governor and actor.