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Old 09-19-2012, 01:19 PM   #1
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160k+ hits of TGP traffic sent to webcams over several years - 29 signups, earned $49.31!

I've had basic tracking active on my webcam affiliate account for years, but I only just added in specific grouping so I could see all-time sales for traffic coming from a specific site/campaign.

I expected TGP traffic conversions to be shitty, but not this shitty.


1. 100% blind traffic from teen TGP - a trickle from June 2006 (nearly 6 years), 21977 hits, 7 signups, $12.65 payout. $0.57/k, $1.81 per signup

2. General TGP traffic redirected to dedicated webcam landing page - from January 2011 (21 months), 141620 clickthroughs from the page, 22 signups, $36.66 payout. $0.25/k or 0.025c/click, $1.67 per signup. Funny thing is this traffic was pre-filtered, so only english language browsers with cookies and referers enabled saw the landing page. Without this the conversions would have been even worse.


I should add that I do MUCH better with non TGP traffic... I still have some members from the early 2000's generating income.

So yeah, if you have a half-assed tracking setup, maybe you should look more closely at how your traffic is performing. This traffic would have only been worth a few hundred max if sold via a broker, but it's still a few hundred effectively lost.
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:24 PM   #2
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I've had basic tracking active on my webcam affiliate account for years, but I only just added in specific grouping so I could see all-time sales for traffic coming from a specific site/campaign.

I expected TGP traffic conversions to be shitty, but not this shitty.


1. 100% blind traffic from teen TGP - a trickle from June 2006 (nearly 6 years), 21977 hits, 7 signups, $12.65 payout. $0.57/k, $1.81 per signup

2. General TGP traffic redirected to dedicated webcam landing page - from January 2011 (21 months), 141620 clickthroughs from the page, 22 signups, $36.66 payout. $0.25/k or 0.025c/click, $1.67 per signup. Funny thing is this traffic was pre-filtered, so only english language browsers with cookies and referers enabled saw the landing page. Without this the conversions would have been even worse.


I should add that I do MUCH better with non TGP traffic... I still have some members from the early 2000's generating income.

So yeah, if you have a half-assed tracking setup, maybe you should look more closely at how your traffic is performing. This traffic would have only been worth a few hundred max if sold via a broker, but it's still a few hundred effectively lost.
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yeah, maybe if you were sending them to the ones that are paying $100-$300 you'll at least get one sale.
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:27 PM   #4
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Blind links should not be sent to sponsors. They are only good for sending back into the circle jerk pool. I stopped using blind links and a skim years ago. Its great traffic to build deceptive trades around and pad your stats, but its effectively useless.
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Gender preference aside - if those numbers aren't enough to get out out of adult, I have no idea what will.
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yeah, maybe if you were sending them to the ones that are paying $100-$300 you'll at least get one sale.
As mentioned I've done better with other sources of traffic. One guy spent $1000 on his first day, which on revshare, is pretty nice.
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Old 09-19-2012, 01:34 PM   #9
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:16 PM   #11
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a single $222 awe signup would have made you more
Not 100% sure but I think the signups listed in the stats on this program are free signups. I presume AWE only pays $222 for a "paid" signup.

There's also the small issue of AWE's long term contempt for affiliates. I wouldn't send them a single click.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:47 PM   #12
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Not 100% sure but I think the signups listed in the stats on this program are free signups. I presume AWE only pays $222 for a "paid" signup.

There's also the small issue of AWE's long term contempt for affiliates. I wouldn't send them a single click.
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Not 100% sure but I think the signups listed in the stats on this program are free signups. I presume AWE only pays $222 for a "paid" signup.
Pretty sure they only paid $222 (if at all) on a $29.99 signup; and not their alternative, and far more attractive for the signer-upper, $19.99 price.
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$0.57/k, $1.81 per signup[/b]
$0.25/k or 0.025c/click, $1.67 per signup
This traffic would have only been worth a few hundred max if sold via a broker, but it's still a few hundred effectively lost.
Blind converts bad if sent to paid sites; cams need specific traffic, not generic mix; paid cams do not appeal especially - free cams may appeal a little more... free cams who pay per free signups may be an advise. If you can re-sell to brokers you may do still more money.
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:42 AM   #17
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Bump to remind people not to forget about a short term experiment and turn it into a long term mistake. Doing more auditing tonight to see if there's anything else I've missed.
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Bump to remind people not to forget about a short term experiment and turn it into a long term mistake. Doing more auditing tonight to see if there's anything else I've missed.
In a mainstream site of mine I forgot a link there from 1998 , was to some software toll they paid $20 a sale, they was purchasedby other company in 1999 but did not noticed, and affiliate links no more working, and I sent them traffic for more than 10 years before I figured out
Other thing I did not checked, I had a link exchange with another site in home page, such site being bigger than mine so me very happy; but they removed it and I figured only like 8 years later, as I was lazy to check referral stats and/or forgot the hardlink.
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you let it run for 6 years and then look into it????
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you let it run for 6 years and then look into it????
It was more like that particular source of traffic was lumped in with everything else for 6 years, so it didn't stand out. I was making plenty of money overall, and was growing those sources which worked well; just wasn't properly looking into those which didn't.
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I've had basic tracking active on my webcam affiliate account for years, but I only just added in specific grouping so I could see all-time sales for traffic coming from a specific site/campaign.

I expected TGP traffic conversions to be shitty, but not this shitty.


1. 100% blind traffic from teen TGP - a trickle from June 2006 (nearly 6 years), 21977 hits, 7 signups, $12.65 payout. $0.57/k, $1.81 per signup

2. General TGP traffic redirected to dedicated webcam landing page - from January 2011 (21 months), 141620 clickthroughs from the page, 22 signups, $36.66 payout. $0.25/k or 0.025c/click, $1.67 per signup. Funny thing is this traffic was pre-filtered, so only english language browsers with cookies and referers enabled saw the landing page. Without this the conversions would have been even worse.


I should add that I do MUCH better with non TGP traffic... I still have some members from the early 2000's generating income.

So yeah, if you have a half-assed tracking setup, maybe you should look more closely at how your traffic is performing. This traffic would have only been worth a few hundred max if sold via a broker, but it's still a few hundred effectively lost.
Just do a Reverse engineering to CamBoss, 2intense or any of the CAM NICKS here and you will find the TRUTH to convert CAMS.

Those guys "CLAIM" to do 15K per month with CAM SALES alone...

So, doing some Reverse engineering on their business, methods and "tricks" they use, will get you some insight to convert cams.

If you just send regular traffic, you won't convert shit with CAMS... Even if that traffic converts at 1:100 with Paysites.



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If you dont convert, you still get paid for the clicks
Seems too good to be true. You're saying that if someone NEVER makes a sale but sends 4k+ hits you'll still pay them up to the $40 cap each month?

Anyway, since I'm not interested in cheating, I'd rather make some real money, can you show me some example URLs please?
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Seems too good to be true. You're saying that if someone NEVER makes a sale but sends 4k+ hits you'll still pay them up to the $40 cap each month?
Of course. It would never occur to them to switch you to revshare, if your traffic is pure shit.
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Blind links should not be sent to sponsors. They are only good for sending back into the circle jerk pool. I stopped using blind links and a skim years ago. Its great traffic to build deceptive trades around and pad your stats, but its effectively useless.
Indeed, your best sending skimmed traffic through our traffic program. No need to worry about conversions.
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Of course. It would never occur to them to switch you to revshare, if your traffic is pure shit.
In this case it seems you already get 35% revshare regardless, but in addition you get paid per click, capped at $40 worth of the lowest per-click rate, if your traffic makes no sales in that month. Interesting model, guess it could be useful to give you some beer money if you have a [really, REALLY] bad month.

LeRoy, let me know some sample sites I can send traffic to.
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In this case it seems you already get 35% revshare regardless, but in addition you get paid per click, capped at $40 worth of the lowest per-click rate, if your traffic makes no sales in that month. Interesting model, guess it could be useful to give you some beer money if you have a [really, REALLY] bad month.

LeRoy, let me know some sample sites I can send traffic to.
Rowan, do you talk to your fellow countryman AllAboutCams?..

I mean, he claims to do some big bucks, why can't you?..

although allaboutcams.com receives less than 100 hits per day from google and its horrible ranked there with ZERO backlinks and such, so I really wonder if that is not just a random site to hide his real money making ones...
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Here's an example I just looked at:

Sent from area on site which is predominantly accessed by straight males... 23718 hits, $1102.58 earnings

Sent from area on site which is predominantly accessed by lesbians... 3194 hits, $0.00 earnings

I've just disabled the latter campaign; as well as the zero rev it also has a far worse CTR.

Check your stats in detail, people. Remove campaigns that don't work, grow ones which do.
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Seems too good to be true. You're saying that if someone NEVER makes a sale but sends 4k+ hits you'll still pay them up to the $40 cap each month?

Anyway, since I'm not interested in cheating, I'd rather make some real money, can you show me some example URLs please?
We opened this program 3 years ago and so far no complaints. I'd like to pay you more than 50.00 for that 160k in traffic.

You'll get the cap 40.00 each month without question. If you make sales and your ratios are within our parameters. We will pay more.


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Of course. It would never occur to them to switch you to revshare, if your traffic is pure shit.
It's a Revshare + PPC + PPS program... I've recommended this program to my personal friends too. If your traffic is pure shit and wont convert. We will still pay the PPC

DTI Cash is a fair and honest program. Let me know if you've heard anything different

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In this case it seems you already get 35% revshare regardless, but in addition you get paid per click, capped at $40 worth of the lowest per-click rate, if your traffic makes no sales in that month. Interesting model, guess it could be useful to give you some beer money if you have a [really, REALLY] bad month.

LeRoy, let me know some sample sites I can send traffic to.
We have tools in iframes and this will give you credit for this program. The site is Sakura Live. If you need help with our system, I'm available anytime.
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