Why Do You Use CCBILL?

[halfpint]

So many complaints about them yet you continue to use them

[lucas131]

its not easy to say good bye to half of my revenue

[Roald]

Originally Posted by lucas131

its not easy to say good bye to half of my revenue

this!

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[Penny24Seven]

because I get a really cool xmas card once a year and there is more but I am busy reading the NATS thread

[LouiseLloyd]

They always pay and despite lack of accurate tracking seems to be less shaving.

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by lucas131

its not easy to say good bye to half of my revenue

Most programs use more than one processor now , might be a hassle to change over links but kinda silly if you think they are not tracking correctly cause over the years you will loose money anyway

[Roald]

Originally Posted by halfpint

Most programs use more than one processor now , might be a hassle to change over links but kinda silly if you think they are not tracking correctly cause over the years you will loose money anyway

can I hire you to update all ccbill sponsor links we have? Close to a 1000 Ccbill sponsors in the system so you are probably done mid 2013.

Dont think so huh ;)

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by Roald

can I hire you to update all ccbill sponsor links we have? Close to a 1000 Ccbill sponsors in the system so you are probably done mid 2013.

Dont think so huh ;)

includes will always be my friend

[Fat Panda]

they do send checks weekly like clockwork...other than that they suck donkey balls

ccbill = 1990s = complacent

[Failed]

Trust. I know if I promote a CCBill program my referrals will be paid even if the program closes its doors. I wish there was more transparency or an independent organization that monitored all programs and their revenue to ensure there was no cheating/shaving. I'd feel more confident about promoting programs who don't use CCBill.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by Harmon

includes will always be my friend

We have proper system trust me, however it would still be a bitch and a ton of work to update all links ;)

[i<3teens]

Payments are like clock work!

[corvette]

its simple...ccbill is large, stable and highly reliable in an industry full of volatility, your going to see companies lean more towards trusted companies like ccbill, epoch, etc

[Roald]

Originally Posted by corvette

its simple...ccbill is large, stable and highly reliable in an industry full of volatility, your going to see companies lean more towards trusted companies like ccbill, epoch, etc

I agree to a point yes, but you cant deny that the stats area is a piece of crap.

[SwirlsGirl]

Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd

They always pay and despite lack of accurate tracking seems to be less shaving.

they do always pay...but the stats could be improved and more accurate

[SwirlsGirl]

Originally Posted by corvette

its simple...ccbill is large, stable and highly reliable in an industry full of volatility, your going to see companies lean more towards trusted companies like ccbill, epoch, etc

good thing you guys figured out a way to remain so stable...if I could get my form submissions stable we might be able to actually grow...stabalize, and remain reliable...

Wanna share some of your trade secrets...or just maybe 15% of the trade secrets....LOL

[SGS]

Over the years CCBill has wired us several million just billing for one little site. No delays, no excuses, no problems and we can even cascade billers with them now too. Just like clockwork week after week since 1998 and they have looked after our affiliates too. If we had to start all over tomorrow we wouldn't change a single thing.

[Roald]

Just to be clear, I think from a site owners pov CCbill is a good option. Just from an affiliates pov, specially one who likes to see a bit more and for multiple programs, its a pain to work with.

[Brent 3dSexCash]

The wire has come every Monday or Tuesday (if holiday) for the last 6 years no later than 630 am.

I learned early on that going with either a non established hosting company or new processing company with "great rates" didnt work for us. I got too much going on to deal worry about "delayed" payments from processors or even worse the processor going under.

We have used ccbill and Liquidweb for 6 years and have had virtually 0 problems with either. In my opinion, these are two areas you absolutely need to have rock solid.

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by Roald

can I hire you to update all ccbill sponsor links we have? Close to a 1000 Ccbill sponsors in the system so you are probably done mid 2013.

Dont think so huh ;)

Im sure you could get somebody to do it for the right amount of $$

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by corvette

its simple...ccbill is large, stable and highly reliable in an industry full of volatility, your going to see companies lean more towards trusted companies like ccbill, epoch, etc

yes just like epass was

So if CCBILL was to go kaput a lot of webmasters and program owners would be well and truly fuked ...eggs in one basket and all that

[Roald]

Originally Posted by halfpint

Im sure you could get somebody to do it for the right amount of $$

of course but in the end the only thing I complain about is the terrible stats area.

They pay like clock work.

[halfpint]

Forgot about the shady Filelocker Processing they did, yet they are so trusted ? and everybody hates copyright infringement right ?

[corvette]

Originally Posted by Roald

I agree to a point yes, but you cant deny that the stats area is a piece of crap.

hey man, updating the stats area was my personal battle for 8+ years there ;)

Originally Posted by halfpint

yes just like epass was

So if CCBILL was to go kaput a lot of webmasters and program owners would be well and truly fuked ...eggs in one basket and all that

sure, just like visa, mastercard, discover, bofa, etc going out of business would affect businesses like netflix, golds gym, etc...same risk, different industry, and i know your going to say that ccbill is not B of A, but in the porn billing industry, they are in the 2% of companies that have been strong and reliable since it started and id consider it comparable

Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl

good thing you guys figured out a way to remain so stable...if I could get my form submissions stable we might be able to actually grow...stabalize, and remain reliable...

Wanna share some of your trade secrets...or just maybe 15% of the trade secrets....LOL

i dont work there anymore, not even sure why im in this thread other than my natural instinct kicking in

[AmeliaG]

It is the box of cookies at Xmas.

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by corvette

but in the porn billing industry, they are in the 2% of companies that have been strong and reliable since it started and id consider it comparable

Its most prob because they process for Brazzers (U know that company that a lot of people on GFY hate because of all the copyright) keeps all the $$$ coming in and keeps them strong...

[dgraves]

I've been using CCBill fro day one and very happy with them. I have a few things to bitch about now and then but that's normal. I tried cascading to Epoch and after a year, there wasn't enough getting through to make a difference so now I use CCBill exclusively.

[epitome]

We use them as a backup but are quite happy with Epoch and NetBilling.

[SmutHammer]

CcBill makes my job easy and handles all my affiliate payouts, why would I use a different company?

[fitzmulti]

Originally Posted by Ed Hammer

CcBill makes my job easy and handles all my affiliate payouts, why would I use a different company?

What he said.
I don't need to look at my stats every three fucking minutes like these people bitching all the time about how slow it is to do that.
I get my emails when my sites sell, the affiliate sales emails, and my damn checks on time.

As long as that happens, which it has perfectly for the last 6-7 years of me using them...then I can actually concentrate on getting my work done, and know that my websites billing, and affiliate payouts are smooth...

:P

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by lucas131

its not easy to say good bye to half of my revenue

How about to 99% of your revenue..

[ruff]

I don't have any complaints about CCBill and I don't blame them for my sales count. I get my checks like clockwork every week. When I promote sites, I get my affilate payout and I do not worry about shaving or fraud. I have done a-b testing with Epoch, which is in my cascade and there is not any advantage to using them over CCBill. In fact, customers are probably more familiar with CCBill join pages than any other. So there is that trust factor.

[VenusBlogger]

yes, still using CCBILL and converting at 1:100 to 1:150 solid for the last years...

I promote paysites... never a problem.

Why do you say people complain? I don't understand...

[signupdamnit]

- CCBill is the only company still sending me checks and going strong since my earliest days in adult.

- All sponsors are merged together so I don't have 500 accounts waiting for a $100 minimum.

- While shaving can still occur with CCBill it's slightly harder for most sponsors to do. Especially for the unsophisticated ones. It's like locking your front door. While it won't keep a determined thief out it will help keep honest people honest.

- It's harder to shave rebills under CCBill. This is extremely important for revshare webmasters. While it can still be done and CCBill isn't doing everything they could be doing it's much easier to get caught and more risky for the sponsor to try under CCBill. It's a strange coincidence that most of my NATS and MPA3 programs lost most of their rebills early this year while my CCBill rebills are growing monthly.

They aren't perfect but given some of the alternatives they are a safe bet. I wish they'd do something about the scrub. I do see evidence that at times transactions are heavily being batched.

[garce]

I trust them (Ok, I'm an idiot)
They've paid me on time, weekly, since Oct. 1999
When a company switches from exclusively using CCBill to Nats or MPA3 (or whatever), my conversions die - no matter how many billers they have in the cascade. Not working? Try our alternate processor and save 33%!!!!

Once a program I sign up with changes its processor - or even its processing software - I am done with it and I will never promote it again.

[georgeyw]

Because I don't trust a company run in someones basement to actually pay me.

Proof is in all the threads about co's not paying who are not ccbill operated....