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09-12-2012, 11:58 AM
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How Live Sex Will Save The Porn Industry
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09-12-2012, 12:01 PM
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I wonder if Manwin can figure out a way to devalue cam sites so they can buy those too.
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I Like Depth Of Field!
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09-12-2012, 12:50 PM
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the article describes what I thought 4 years ago.... when I decided to promote cams. And I think the cam biz will keep growing and will remain stable, considering technology will only make the experience and interaction better and better
so.. too bad they don't convert
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The article forgots to say that 95% of the new cam sites fail or struggle to just stay up. The article it also forgets it is required lots of money to launch a cam site (mostly due to advertising and fixed-pay promo for keep models there) it is not a bedroom operation you run as hobby. The article implies that most USA girls can do lots money in cams. As example $40,000 per month models and "A recent cam show by Jenna Haze* on AWE's LiveJasmin.com attracted 10,000 paying followers. That's a lot of cash". Possibly "10,000" it was the popunders opened, not the pay users, anyway we know a dozen models make $40,000 per month each, just other thousands make very less. Should the article guy go in second and third page girls and ask how much they made per month and will find $200 to $800 per month really. Not as good for USA models or westerns in general (the Article implies the east europe models it is the past, and the future is USA girls, I quite see the opposite, was more USA girls before 2005...). Finally the article it is a celebration of AWE's livejasmin, no wonder the tax people read such article and be in AWE's office immediately to ask their cut of the billion dollar market they claim they dominate, see: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1081209 Said that, the article it can be still interesting for who misses cam knowledge completely.
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09-12-2012, 02:00 PM
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Good article, and good reading
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09-12-2012, 02:27 PM
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If it was that easy and well paid, there would hardly be a cam girl in Eastern Europe or the Third World. They are there because those are the places the girls can live on $1,000 a month.
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09-12-2012, 02:28 PM
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 In towns where adult businesses are illegal (and there are LOTS of them that can't even have an adult book store) they are in a world of trouble. In towns where adult businesses are legal....they are looking into zoning issues and treating ANY adult business that runs out of a home just like it was an adult book store (even if it's just a housewife turning on her webcam). They already nailed some girls in L.A. and Vegas a few weeks ago for that. |
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09-12-2012, 03:39 PM
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In all fairness $1,000/mo is very low but a girl in parts of Eastern Europe might only gross $2K or $4K and split the earnings with a studio -- some of them earn one hell of a lot more. If you look at the earnings of workers in Eastern Europe this is far above average. |
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09-12-2012, 04:06 PM
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Barry from your log I figure you lost like an hour of your time to try signup an USA cam girl who wish to sell for $6 a minute or more, which your site not even supports as max $4.95 or so. Now I wonder is that any worth when there's hundred of girls who looks the same pretty and speaks the same English and are ok with whatever price per minute and if they don't say they're Romanian no one will guess they're not from USA?
Also about USA porn stars I know a few of them who could not make any money in cams even they're stars in movies, some made shows in cam sites because got some hundred dollars just to be there for advertising deals but made like $100 from the customers...
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WRT typed chats, as piss-poor as some Americans are at English, I doubt most have as poor command of the language, particular grammar, as people from Europe or the third world. Finally, people like to have something to relate to. It's far easier for an American to relate to someone from their own country, likewise a Brit, Aussie, etc, than someone from a country and a culture they don't know anything about, other than that's where Dracula comes from. Obviously they're more likely to spend time with, or repeatedly visit, the ones they can relate to or have something in common with. Personality is, if anything, more important than looks on cam. |
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09-12-2012, 05:23 PM
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09-12-2012, 05:56 PM
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If that article was the average norm and not an above average girl. There would be a line of girls to be on webcam, including pornstars. Webcam sites wouldn't need to tout for affiliates. Or tout for me to open a studio in Czech, remember Barry?
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This is the cherry girl on the top of the cake that's just made of bread. Girls earning $4,000 a month, which is by no means bad. But not what these people make out. Writing an article about the average girl doesn't sell newspapers or any other media. What it does clearly show is the appeal of watching a a live girl and communicating with her. In a time where most people here who work 7/52 earn less because of the lack of innovation in online porn. It shows a way forward. Not a market flooded with girls and cam sites as we have them today. Think outside the box. |
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09-12-2012, 11:34 PM
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CAMS will save the adult industry?
You must be kidding... any webmaster I ask in ICQ has a hard time converting cams, but they do great with fetish paysites. Only people that "CLAIM" to make bank with cams are on GFY... Really wondering... |
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09-12-2012, 11:38 PM
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a small % of cam girls can make 10K a month and up - probably are 50-100 of them on MFC, maybe 20-25 or so making 20K plus, and more could if they cammed at least a few times a week.
just like any other business cams are going to get saturated, already heard from some MFC girls that it's getting harder.
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I wonder how much did AWE pays to be featured in those articles?
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_webcams, cams.com, awempire, clickcash, mtree, some ccbill cam sites, and some others i cant remember.. in all conversions of 0:10,000 to 0:15,000... What will crak or chaturbate have different? Obviously im failing in some part, that you don't... and is the way you send traffic.. but nobody here shares anything, you all keep your SECRETS for your own... so I need to find out on my own doing reverse engenering... |
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Too bad you didn't make the investment into live broadcasting with a cam studio it would have maybe paid off for you. I know a lot of people that have been quite successful in the business but we made the investment. |
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I might of looked at it if it was your money investing in it. I would manage from the top. It would need a serious sit down and discussion. I can find the location, girls, management and probably technical guys. Plus all the legal. Me invest the money as well as all that and be reliant on a webcam company to send buyers. Quote:
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webcam is not porn.
its like saying webcam will save the dating bizz or webcam will save vhs sales. its a different thing. what we will probably see is webcam sites attracting porn stars. as porn sites close or have less funds for cash, i see many uk porn stars quit the biz. but they have a bit of a name and huge twitter/facebook followers. so if your a webcam site its well worth you trying to get them to your site and bring there followers with them. its a bit like uk pole dancing. this was big money but as more places opened the money the girls made droped and many went to do porn. but that money is much lower. also in the uk they brought in a yearly fee of £150 (or somthing) which has put many girls off from doing there own porn site. webcam is excempt from this fee. thus you can see many turning to webcam. but for those who run there own sites, setting up a studio could also be seen as a better option. no need to spend £4000 on the latest hd camera and spend time editing the films. only to see them uploaded (pirated) to every tube site. Much easer to just have the shows live.
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webcam sites are not great for the afiiliate, for a few reasons.
1. most big tube sites will promote tubes and so most people will sign up via them. sign up is often free and often does not ask for credit cards. once signed up your a meber for life, so no one is going to sign up twice. so if anyone moans that they have sent hits to webcam sites but made no money, well why would you expect to? do you not get that the chances are they are mebers already. 2. any webcam site with any sense let the models post there twitter and facebook account so people can join them. thus they can say when they are next on. this will mean that they will re-tweet posts and so on. thus cutting out the need to bother with affiliates when the public will to the promotion free. 3. once you have a decent traffic (cam site) your best to drop the affiliate as this way you can pay the models more. the cam sites that pay the best will attract the best as well as most models, who in turn will bring new customers when they post on there twitter/facebook page. thus an affiliate unless your a huge tube site will probably not make a great deal.
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Webcam was a small section of online porn. It will survive, while other parts whither away. Will it ever "Save online porn?". No fucking way. Guys who want a live girl won't want a pre recorded video, guys who want a pre recorded video won't buy a live web cam. Not 100% but close to it and most who have tried to upsell from a members area are likely agree. When I see US porn stars all over webcams, I will start to think it's saving the industry. Also saturation is a good point. Unemployment of girls 18 to 25 is awful. There must be 100s of girls who are doing it now, who wouldn't if they had a job. OTH drowning people will grasp anything that drifts by. Barry, want to meet up and discuss opening a webcam studio here with your money? |
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Seriously, we had a few people offer us the same deal. I know 3 people who took it, one was big in Prague, one is a property owner and runs a couple of brothels here, the other wanted me to shoot his girls. They all went down. Quote:
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but i would never go into running some webcam business, i rather put my penis into a waffle iron
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