Can Someone Breakdown Trannies for Me?

[kristin]

I was looking for tranny content today on a gaming site and the word "tranny" pulled up nothing but "shemale" did.

So I wanted to know what's the difference between a tranny/shemale/ladyboy/t-girl ... and any of the other niches that go into the transgender world?

I'm genuinely interested, not trolling, promise.

[Robbie]

I can't help you. But if you want somebody who is an expert at "breaking down" trannies...that would be DWB. lol

[kristin]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I can't help you. But if you want somebody who is an expert at "breaking down" trannies...that would be DWB. lol

I figured him or Nikki would be the best to answer.

[geedub]

ladyboy, katoey or newhalf is asian
tranny/shemale is not

[MaDalton]

i would say its all the same - maybe split in pre-op and post-op

then there are cross-dresser - ugly guys with lipstick in lingerie ;)

[Roald]

Ask Stinger!

[CaptainHowdy]

Tranny - man in drag.
Shemale - transgender (sexual dysphoria).

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by Roald

Ask Stinger!

[Imortyl Pussycat]

ask Nikki, she's very active on the board and would be happy to help you out i'm sure

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by kristin

I figured him or Nikki would be the best to answer.

I didn't mean DWB could answer your question.

I meant he's an expert at "Breaking Down" trannies.

[kristin]

Originally Posted by Robbie

I didn't mean DWB could answer your question.

I meant he's an expert at "Breaking Down" trannies.

I got what you meant, I figured he could speak from experience.

[Robbie]

Just let me know if you want me to show you my methods for "breaking down" a redhead

[DWB]

Originally Posted by kristin

I was looking for tranny content today on a gaming site and the word "tranny" pulled up nothing but "shemale" did.

So I wanted to know what's the difference between a tranny/shemale/ladyboy/t-girl ... and any of the other niches that go into the transgender world?

I'm genuinely interested, not trolling, promise.

In terms of porn, tranny, transsexual, tgirl, shemale are all used to define a transsexual. They are "catch all" names used to define a transgendered person. However, some of them may be considered offensive if you used it in real life, depending on you who talk to.

Ladyboys are used to describe Asian transsexuals. In the Philippines, some refer to them as Billy Boys. But you can call them Asian shemales, Asian transsexuals, Asian tgirls, or just ladyboys. "Katoey" is a Thai specific word for Asian Transsexual. "New Half" is what they call Japanese shemales.

A Femboy can be a very feminine boy, or a shemale who has not yet had any operations, has no breasts, and generally is still in the transition phase. However, they do not have to be in the transition phase, many live their lives as femboys. Some would say being a femboy is all about how they present themselves and act. I categorize them as shemales with no tits or small hormone tits, and little to no plastic surgery. A little on the boyish side.

[DWB]

Senchai from Grooby could probably give you an more detailed breakdown. He's the God Father of shemale porn.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by DWB

In terms of porn, tranny, transsexual, tgirl, shemale are all used to define a transsexual. They are "catch all" names used to define a transgendered person. However, some of them may be considered offensive if you used it in real life, depending on you who talk to.

Ladyboys are used to describe Asian transsexuals. In the Philippines, some refer to them as Billy Boys. But you can call them Asian shemales, Asian transsexuals, Asian tgirls, or just ladyboys. "Katoey" is a Thai specific word for Asian Transsexual. "New Half" is what they call Japanese shemales.

A Femboy can be a very feminine boy, or a shemale who has not yet had any operations, has no breasts, and generally is still in the transition phase. However, they do not have to be in the transition phase, many live their lives as femboys. Some would say being a femboy is all about how they present themselves and act. I categorize them as shemales with no tits or small hormone tits, and little to no plastic surgery. A little on the boyish side.

i learned about "tomboys" - boyish looking girls who live with bargirls and pimp them out

[martinsc]

This thread scares me......

[RyuLion]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Just let me know if you want me to show you my methods for "breaking down" a redhead

[DWB]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i learned about "tomboys" - boyish looking girls who live with bargirls and pimp them out

Yea, "toms" or tomboys. We have a boat load of them here. Boyish looking girls who ALWAYS have bad ass hot girl friends. Some pimp them out, some just have real GFs. But they are hardcore and won't hesitate to throw down or cut you. Crazy bitches.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by DWB

In terms of porn, tranny, transsexual, tgirl, shemale are all used to define a transsexual. They are "catch all" names used to define a transgendered person. However, some of them may be considered offensive if you used it in real life, depending on you who talk to.

Ladyboys are used to describe Asian transsexuals. In the Philippines, some refer to them as Billy Boys. But you can call them Asian shemales, Asian transsexuals, Asian tgirls, or just ladyboys. "Katoey" is a Thai specific word for Asian Transsexual. "New Half" is what they call Japanese shemales.

A Femboy can be a very feminine boy, or a shemale who has not yet had any operations, has no breasts, and generally is still in the transition phase. However, they do not have to be in the transition phase, many live their lives as femboys. Some would say being a femboy is all about how they present themselves and act. I categorize them as shemales with no tits or small hormone tits, and little to no plastic surgery. A little on the boyish side.

and lets not forget 'boi'

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by RyuLion

Yeah, I'm gonna let others here show off their knowledge of shemales...Me? I'm keeping my eye firmly on that redhead sexy motherfuckin' Kristin!

[AlexFS]

Originally Posted by DWB

Yea, "toms" or tomboys. We have a boat load of them here. Boyish looking girls who ALWAYS have bad ass hot girl friends. Some pimp them out, some just have real GFs. But they are hardcore and won't hesitate to throw down or cut you. Crazy bitches.

No joke, those tomboys have the HOTTEST bar girls under their spell.

[nikki99]

I wud say tranny is the short for "Transsexual" and shemale is a word Porn invented back in 1996 if I remember well, that word didn't exist be4

I remember in the past the word was she-male
and after some time it is just 1 word shemale

ladyboys are asian
newhalfs are japanese

PUTOS is Argentinian

[nikki99]

Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat

ask Nikki, she's very active

how did u know this?

this thread need a pic

[Barry-xlovecam]

PUT O s HAHAHA

trannie, tranny [ˈtrænɪ]
n pl -nies
1. (Electronics) a transistor radio
2. a transvestite

Transsexuals (or Shemales) are not transvestites.

[helterskelter808]

Actually the word they use in the Philippines is "bakla", which means gay.

Because, unlike all the tranny hounds who love the cock but lie to themselves and others that they are straight, Filipinos don't try to pretend it's something it's not.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by AlexFS

No joke, those tomboys have the HOTTEST bar girls under their spell.

Maybe they are witches, or have them under some voodoo Khmer spell.

Originally Posted by nikki99

how did u know this?

this thread need a pic

Seriously, who sucks cock with a condom on?

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Actually the word they use in the Philippines is "bakla", which means gay.

Because, unlike all the tranny hounds who love the cock but lie to themselves and others that they are straight, Filipinos don't try to pretend it's something it's not.

Yea, many Filipinos call it gay but they have it wrong and are not open minded enough to see what it really is, another choice. I'm sure their strict Catholic upbringing also has something to do with it. Try selling shemale porn to gay men. You can't. They are not interested. Guys into shemales are usually into both females and shemales, so maybe you could qualify them as bisexual, but gay they are not. And don't confuse guys who are into shemales with guys who are into cross dressers and men in drag, there is a huge difference.

[SeedyMedia]

Originally Posted by DWB

In terms of porn, tranny, transsexual, tgirl, shemale are all used to define a transsexual. They are "catch all" names used to define a transgendered person. However, some of them may be considered offensive if you used it in real life, depending on you who talk to.

Ladyboys are used to describe Asian transsexuals. In the Philippines, some refer to them as Billy Boys. But you can call them Asian shemales, Asian transsexuals, Asian tgirls, or just ladyboys. "Katoey" is a Thai specific word for Asian Transsexual. "New Half" is what they call Japanese shemales.

A Femboy can be a very feminine boy, or a shemale who has not yet had any operations, has no breasts, and generally is still in the transition phase. However, they do not have to be in the transition phase, many live their lives as femboys. Some would say being a femboy is all about how they present themselves and act. I categorize them as shemales with no tits or small hormone tits, and little to no plastic surgery. A little on the boyish side.

Thank you - and I mean that. That educated me.

I remember years ago talking to a gay website owner and asking him if the tranny/shemale niche converted well for him and he took great offence that I had even mentioned such a thing.

[nikki99]

Originally Posted by DWB

Seriously, who sucks cock with a condom on?

.

in Argentina girls think they can get the aids on a blowjob

[MaDalton]

you can get for sure everything else than HIV from a blowjob. the chances for HIV are rather slim but not impossible

[The Ghost]

Ladyboy "bump"


DWB gave an awesome response as did Nikki. Shemale is the general "catch all" though most fans tend to recognize any of those terms kristen listed on a page and go from there. Not until you get into a hardcore detailed Shemale subniched site that you clearly define each one and educate many end users. Most don't know themselves, only what they're attracted to.

Some of the larger sites have helped define what each is. For example whenever I hear "Tgirl" I think of Black because of the Black-Tgirls site. One thing for certain a "Ladyboy" is always SE Asian (mostly Thai since that's the highest concentration of content with some Laos, Cambodian and Vietnamese thrown in). Any other use of the term Ladyboy just looks silly and misinformed.


DWB put it perfectly about the Fiipino cultural view. The Catholic religion enables people to harshly judge anything without acceptance and, as long as they ask for forgiveness later it's all good. Where other SE Asian countries are heavily Buddist and tolerance is practiced. Those with differences are accepted or at least tolerated.

[pornguy]

ladyboy = asian such as Thai and PH and Chine..
NewHalf is Japanese

Tgirl is usually a man dressing as a female but looks feminine.
Crosdresser is a man dressing as a female but very easy to tell they are a man
Tranny is a girl in the process of changing. Has had implants and some surgeries.
Shemale is usually a lot further along in the process and has lost most of the Man qualities through the use of Hormones and surgery. Lots of these have also been castrated but still have their cock.

Thats a basic break down.

Not everyone agrees on this but its how I see things and how they seem to sell very well.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by The Ghost

DWB put it perfectly about the Fiipino cultural view. The Catholic religion enables people to harshly judge anything without acceptance and, as long as they ask for forgiveness later it's all good. Where other SE Asian countries are heavily Buddist and tolerance is practiced. Those with differences are accepted or at least tolerated.

No, he put his own opinion and he was mistaken. I didn't bother replying, because I didn't think it was worth arguing about, but since you've resurrected this thread for some reason, I'll put you right on it too.

Every tranny in the Philippines calls themselves and each other "bakla" (gay). That has nothing to do with repression, but quite the opposite: because they lack the homophobic/self-hating, guilt-ridden self-delusion that foreign, ladyboy-loving sex tourists like you have, that being gay is something to be ashamed of.

Foreign tranny-hounds like you perform ridiculous mental gymnastics in order to deny your gay side (and the reality that trannies are simply gay men with long hair, make-up and/or cosmetic surgery) and have to pretend they are some mysterious 'third sex', while inventing patronizing names for them that contain the word "lady" or "girl" to maintain the self-delusion you are fully straight.

The fact that you believe being called gay is being "judged harshly" demonstrates you believe there is something wrong with being gay, and that it's an insult.

There are trannies everywhere in plain sight in the Philippines, not in sex clubs but doing everyday things and working everyday jobs, something that is all but unheard of in the 'tolerant' West, despite equality legislation, so the idea that Catholicism or Filipino culture has repressed them is an absolute crock of shit.

Funny that South America is another flourishing haven of transsexuality. I guess that must be the utopian Buddhist influence too.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

No, he put his own opinion and he was mistaken. I didn't bother replying, because I didn't think it was worth arguing about, but since you've resurrected this thread for some reason, I'll put you right on it too.

Every tranny in the Philippines calls themselves and each other "bakla" (gay). That has nothing to do with repression, but quite the opposite: because they lack the homophobic/self-hating, guilt-ridden self-delusion that foreign, ladyboy-loving sex tourists like you have, that being gay is something to be ashamed of.

Foreign tranny-hounds like you perform ridiculous mental gymnastics in order to deny your gay side (and the reality that trannies are simply gay men with long hair, make-up and/or cosmetic surgery) and have to pretend they are some mysterious 'third sex', while inventing patronizing names for them that contain the word "lady" or "girl" to maintain the self-delusion you are fully straight.

The fact that you believe being called gay is being "judged harshly" demonstrates you believe there is something wrong with being gay, and that it's an insult.

There are trannies everywhere in plain sight in the Philippines, not in sex clubs but doing everyday things and working everyday jobs, something that is all but unheard of in the 'tolerant' West, despite equality legislation, so the idea that Catholicism or Filipino culture has repressed them is an absolute crock of shit.

Funny that South America is another flourishing haven of transsexuality. I guess that must be the utopian Buddhist influence too.

So your saying that men that like ( Trannies , Shemales ) or what ever name, are Gay?

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by pornguy

So your saying that men that like ( Trannies , Shemales ) or what ever name, are Gay?

I'm saying that (for a man) liking cock is gay. And the reason people like trannies is the cock. And I'm saying that most guys who like trannies refuse to admit that liking cock is gay, and rather than being open, honest and accepting about their own gay tendencies they are guilt-ridden and in denial about it because they think being gay is 'wrong'.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

I'm saying that (for a man) liking cock is gay. And the reason people like trannies is the cock. And I'm saying that most guys who like trannies refuse to admit that liking cock is gay, and rather than being open, honest and accepting about their own gay tendencies they are guilt-ridden and in denial about it because they think being gay is 'wrong'.

Interesting..
You should ask some gay men if they are attracted to Shemales.

99.9% are not and would NOT have sex with them.

I think that men that like shemales are in a class of their own.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Interesting..
You should ask some gay men if they are attracted to Shemales.

99.9% are not and would NOT have sex with them.

Interesting. I didn't realize you knew exactly what every gay man on the planet was into.

It may blow your mind that I know for a fact many guys who like trannies are also into males.

I think that men that like shemales are in a class of their own.

That's certainly a better and more logical argument than the claim that trannies are a 'straight' thing.

[96ukssob]

I wrote a paper in college on the different terms. In my one Psych class, there was a few chapters on sexuality. Our "final" was to write a paper on any of the topics we covered all semester.

The professor was cool and used to talk to him. When we got our papers back he wrote "I don't want to know how you know this much or if this is all even BS, but you get an A" haha

[The Ghost]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

I'm saying that (for a man) liking cock is gay. And the reason people like trannies is the cock. And I'm saying that most guys who like trannies refuse to admit that liking cock is gay, and rather than being open, honest and accepting about their own gay tendencies they are guilt-ridden and in denial about it because they think being gay is 'wrong'.

Regardless of what you think of the act, the market for Shemales is not gay. Never has and never will be. I've been in the business 16 years from brick & mortar stores all the way through now. Knowing the actual customers for the products. Spending many years in all parts of Asia and the West.


Gay customers are not attracted to women. Even women with cocks. They are NOT attracted to the female form. They are attracted to men. If it was any different I'd have no problem saying it. The only time anyone gay interested in Shemale is to entice "straight" guys into experimenting. Of course nothing is 100% as this world fills up with billions of people with every thought imaginable in their heads. But this is how it is the vast majority of the time.



While we're on the subject, you can explain your qualifications and what you do in the business. It would help in the discussion for sure.