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Badmaash · 09-16-2012, 09:32 AM

Hi fuckers

Has anyone sent targeted cam traffic to chaturbate?

What are your ratios like?

Thanks

B

Harmon · 09-16-2012, 09:37 AM

A better question would be, why would you? I do not send traffic to them, but if I did, it would be 404 or exit pops. There are a million better alternatives that pay WAY better. Also, remember that we are talking Wegcash v2.0 here.

Incoming white knight fatties sticking up for PunkerBarbie

adult-help · 09-16-2012, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

A better question would be, why would you? I do not send traffic to them, but if I did, it would be 404 or exit pops. There are a million better alternatives that pay WAY better. Also, remember that we are talking Wegcash v2.0 here.

Incoming white knight fatties sticking up for PunkerBarbie

please tell some better alternatives..that dont have your refer code in link..

Harmon · 09-16-2012, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by adult-help

please tell some better alternatives..that dont have your refer code in link..

Why would I? You want free advice? Go fuck yourself, cunt. I gave you as much as I would. Be a douche bag? Get shit. Eat my shit.

xNetworx · 09-16-2012, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

Why would I? You want free advice? Go fuck yourself, cunt. I gave you as much as I would. Be a douche bag? Get shit. Eat my shit.

Badmaash · 09-16-2012, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

A better question would be, why would you? I do not send traffic to them, but if I did, it would be 404 or exit pops. There are a million better alternatives that pay WAY better. Also, remember that we are talking Wegcash v2.0 here.

Incoming white knight fatties sticking up for PunkerBarbie

I dont know what you are saying

What about wegcash

Sorry, i dont know what you are sayin!

Harmon · 09-16-2012, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badmaash

I dont know what you are saying

What about wegcash

Sorry, i dont know what you are sayin!

Search the board.

Not here to dredge up bad memories or step on anybody's toes. Let's just say that the doors closed rather quickly. Some have claimed to have been paid, others have claimed to not have been paid. Point being? Same people.
Capiche?

helterskelter808 · 09-16-2012, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Badmaash

I dont know what you are saying

What about wegcash

Sorry, i dont know what you are sayin!

I don't think I've ever seen or met a stoner who didn't post or talk like this (as if mentally challenged).

I don't know if stoners just kill enough brain cells to reduce their IQ to subnormal levels or if it's only subnormals who become stoners, but fuck... How do you flailing, oblivious zomboids even get through a day of having to feed yourselves or put on clothes?

DVTimes · 09-16-2012, 10:15 AM

bump 4 you................

ErectMedia · 09-16-2012, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

A better question would be, why would you? I do not send traffic to them, but if I did, it would be 404 or exit pops. There are a million better alternatives that pay WAY better. Also, remember that we are talking Wegcash v2.0 here.

Incoming white knight fatties sticking up for PunkerBarbie

+1

hony · 09-16-2012, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badmaash

Hi fuckers

Has anyone sent targeted cam traffic to chaturbate?

What are your ratios like?

Thanks

B

Ok a straight answer to a straight question, just because it is a great excuse to drag some numbers over to Excel and crunch them and I just *love* excel so much more than getting down to some real work....

Chaturbate

Targetted clicked traffic:

Hits:Signups = 1:19

Hits:Tier-1 signups = 1:21

Targetted pop-under traffic: (Popunders on cam related sites)

Hits:Signups = 1:38

Hits:Tier-1 signups = 1:51

AllAboutCams · 09-16-2012, 06:37 PM

I get around 1:50 targeted and 1:1000 with crap traffic mainly pop

Badmaash · 09-17-2012, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hony

Ok a straight answer to a straight question, just because it is a great excuse to drag some numbers over to Excel and crunch them and I just *love* excel so much more than getting down to some real work....

Chaturbate

Targetted clicked traffic:

Hits:Signups = 1:19

Hits:Tier-1 signups = 1:21

Targetted pop-under traffic: (Popunders on cam related sites)

Hits:Signups = 1:38

Hits:Tier-1 signups = 1:51

How much do they charge customers for private shows?

I checked their site but their is no pricing page.......

Thx

hony · 09-17-2012, 12:45 AM

Most of the money is spent on tips I believe. Certainly you don't often see privates happening, though the system does support it.

Badmaash · 09-17-2012, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hony

Most of the money is spent on tips I believe. Certainly you don't often see privates happening, though the system does support it.

That means this should make us a lot of money! I think<?>

hony · 09-17-2012, 12:55 AM

Well maybe. On the other hand it attracts beggars who are conditioned to just hangout in rooms until the alpha-male throws in a few tokens to make a girl flash, so basically 99% of people get to watch for free.

If you happen to be on revshare for the one big spender, then sure there is affiliate income going on there. Only 20% though which is only ...

I guess that's why PPF seems attractive for a site like this.

Badmaash · 09-17-2012, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hony

Well maybe. On the other hand it attracts beggars who are conditioned to just hangout in rooms until the alpha-male throws in a few tokens to make a girl flash, so basically 99% of people get to watch for free.

If you happen to be on revshare for the one big spender, then sure there is affiliate income going on there. Only 20% though which is only ...

I guess that's why PPF seems attractive for a site like this.

Would this not make alpha males into beggars too?

Alpha males will wait for other alpha males to spend some coin?

hony · 09-17-2012, 01:14 AM

Then he wouldn't be the alpha-male. The chatrooms at tipping sites are like watching a nature documentary sometimes; it's really monkeys in the jungle stuff. Alpha-male guy wants to be looked up to by "the gang" and he does that by tipping and gaining thanks from the girl who is like the golden calf.

Everybody worships the girl, and attacks viciously anybody who comes into the room and doesn't worship her, but there is always some guys, typically just one, who is *the* guy and everybody thanks him when he tips.

These guys don't tip to see the girls tits, they tip to get that glowing feeling when everybody in gang high 5s him and tells him he is a player...

AllAboutCams · 09-17-2012, 01:53 AM

PPF and REV is not comparable i have 994 signed up for rev and made a hell of a lot more than $994 i don't understand why people choose PPF

Badmaash · 09-17-2012, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

PPF and REV is not comparable i have 994 signed up for rev and made a hell of a lot more than $994 i don't understand why people choose PPF

So they do not allow you to earn both tipping money and rev money? You have to choose one or the other?

Thanks

B

hony · 09-17-2012, 02:06 AM

You have two choices:

PPF : you get $1 for each free signup of "Tier 1" country people (e.g. 1st World)

Revshare : you get 20% of all spending of your members.

Choose one option only it seems. I'm on revshare.

AllAboutCams · 09-17-2012, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badmaash

So they do not allow you to earn both tipping money and rev money? You have to choose one or the other?

Thanks

B

Tipping money is rev (Revshare) money if man 1 spends $100 i get $20 no matter how he spends it if i signed him up to rev.
But if i had signed him up to PPF i only get $1 and nothing more.
You get the money when people buy the credit not when they use it.

seeandsee · 09-17-2012, 02:41 AM

rooms should have time limit on free loaders, come on, there are zillion people that will never pay

Badmaash · 09-17-2012, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AllAboutCams

Tipping money is rev (Revshare) money if man 1 spends $100 i get $20 no matter how he spends it if i signed him up to rev.
But if i had signed him up to PPF i only get $1 and nothing more.
You get the money when people buy the credit not when they use it.

So are you saying:

man 1 spends $100 today, i get $20
man 1 spends $100 tommorow, I get $0

????

Thx

AllAboutCams · 09-17-2012, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badmaash

So are you saying:

man 1 spends $100 today, i get $20
man 1 spends $100 tommorow, I get $0

????

Thx

basically yes
you only get $1 for PPF sign ups but you get 20% if signed up to rev

Diomed · 09-17-2012, 05:37 AM

I thought they killed the pay per free program..

Badmaash · 09-17-2012, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hony

Then he wouldn't be the alpha-male. The chatrooms at tipping sites are like watching a nature documentary sometimes; it's really monkeys in the jungle stuff. Alpha-male guy wants to be looked up to by "the gang" and he does that by tipping and gaining thanks from the girl who is like the golden calf.

Everybody worships the girl, and attacks viciously anybody who comes into the room and doesn't worship her, but there is always some guys, typically just one, who is *the* guy and everybody thanks him when he tips.

These guys don't tip to see the girls tits, they tip to get that glowing feeling when everybody in gang high 5s him and tells him he is a player...

You say alpha-male...... but these are called "tricks"

CamTraffic · 09-17-2012, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badmaash

Hi fuckers

Has anyone sent targeted cam traffic to chaturbate?

What are your ratios like?

Thanks

B

Never sent traffic their way, because

adult-help · 09-17-2012, 06:03 AM

this fro their website: Pay per free: $1.00 will be paid on all Tier 1 signups, $0.10 on all Tier 2 signups, and $0.01 on all Tier 3 signups referred. Currently invite only.

what do they mean invite only? if i signup can i get paid $1 for every member or no? or does othr chaturbate affiliate have to invite me?

Badmaash · 09-17-2012, 06:11 AM

I am fucking confused man!

Why doesnt chaturbate come and explain everything?

Thanks

martinsc · 09-17-2012, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CamTraffic

Never sent traffic their way, because

V_RocKs · 09-17-2012, 06:21 AM

You people wear clothes?

adultmobile · 09-17-2012, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adult-help

please tell some better alternatives..that dont have your refer code in link..

Let me be the first program to sp4m link with no ref code: tubecamgirl.com (webmaster link there, on in my signature).

helterskelter808 · 09-17-2012, 09:43 AM

Badmaash, if you really are as monumentally fucking retarded as you're acting here, who turned your PC on for you?

punker barbie · 09-17-2012, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adult-help

this fro their website: Pay per free: $1.00 will be paid on all Tier 1 signups, $0.10 on all Tier 2 signups, and $0.01 on all Tier 3 signups referred. Currently invite only.

what do they mean invite only? if i signup can i get paid $1 for every member or no? or does othr chaturbate affiliate have to invite me?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badmaash

I am fucking confused man!

Why doesnt chaturbate come and explain everything?

Thanks

Our pay per free program is open to everyone
http://business.avn.com/company-news...ne-486572.html

As stated by Hony-

You have 2 options.

1) Revshare for life time purchases.

2) Pay Pay Per Free- The surfer needs to submit a username/password. No credit card is needed, providing an e-mail is optional, and the affiliate still gets paid.

http://chaturbate.com/affiliates/

georgeyw · 09-17-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

You people wear clothes?

I think badmaash covers himself in faeces whilst singing 'I feel pretty, so pretty'

Colmike9 · 09-17-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

rooms should have time limit on free loaders, come on, there are zillion people that will never pay

I'm pretty sure the performers have the option to only allow members (free and paid) to view and chat with them, which is a good idea.

If anyone from Chaturbate is looking, wouldn't more people sign up for free if that message pops up making signup mandatory after 2-3 cam room views?

georgeyw · 09-17-2012, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7

I'm pretty sure the performers have the option to only allow members (free and paid) to view and chat with them, which is a good idea.

If anyone from Chaturbate is looking, wouldn't more people sign up for free if that message pops up making signup mandatory after 2-3 cam room views?

hony · 09-17-2012, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7

If anyone from Chaturbate is looking, wouldn't more people sign up for free if that message pops up making signup mandatory after 2-3 cam room views?

This would be dead easy to test, so I presume they have done so and decided it didn't work.

Quite a few new cam sites I've seen recently have strict time limits on free chat, and generally these are small and failing sites. Maybe it isn't a cause-effect correlation, but for one thing I can say the strict time limits make it very painful doing reviews. It annoys me enormously and ensures I won't return to that site, hard to think it will encourage surfers to join.

helterskelter808 · 09-17-2012, 06:28 PM

If you won't return to a site because they have a timeout or popup (which, without checking, I'm pretty sure most do) then you wouldn't sign up anyway. And people who won't sign up anyway don't matter.

hony · 09-17-2012, 06:39 PM

There is a class people who you can call "would signup if they were sufficiently motivated", those ones are worth catering for.

One way to be motivated is to get interested in, or feel some association with, a site or more likely a particular model. And that takes time, more than two minutes for sure, for some people it might take months.

These are strategies not to be discussed, but to be tested with real traffic. And I presume that is being done.

helterskelter808 · 09-17-2012, 06:58 PM

There is simply no way you will feel an association with a model if you are a freeloading guest, because the model will quite rightly not even give you the time of day.

The best way to 'motivate' someone to sign up is to let them know the popups/timeouts go away if they sign up (for free - no credit card required).

georgeyw · 09-17-2012, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

There is simply no way you will feel an association with a model if you are a freeloading guest, because the model will quite rightly not even give you the time of day.

The best way to 'motivate' someone to sign up is to let them know the popups/timeouts go away if they sign up (for free - no credit card required).

I don't really agree with this. Quite a few models on MFC and CB do give 'freeloaders' the time of day because they understand that all of their tippers started out as 'freeloaders'.

These are usually the models who make good money though.

helterskelter808 · 09-17-2012, 08:00 PM

Maybe tipping sites are different; I was thinking more of the traditional kind. I still think some kind of reminder or incentive to sign up is good though. Popups and timeouts are annoying but I think they work, for people who would sign up anyway.

From affiliates POV, it's better to have such people 'motivated' to sign up ASAP, rather than 6 months down the line of forming a relationship with a model.

georgeyw · 09-17-2012, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Maybe tipping sites are different; I was thinking more of the traditional kind. I still think some kind of reminder or incentive to sign up is good though. Popups and timeouts are annoying but I think they work, for people who would sign up anyway.

From affiliates POV, it's better to have such people 'motivated' to sign up ASAP, rather than 6 months down the line of forming a relationship with a model.

Agreed - I wish every single free user turned into a paid within minutes, however the reality is, it ain't gonna happen.

adultmobile · 09-17-2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw

I don't really agree with this. Quite a few models on MFC and CB do give 'freeloaders' the time of day because they understand that all of their tippers started out as 'freeloaders'.

These are usually the models who make good money though.

Especially for free and tipping sites:
Yes every pay user it started as freeloader the first day, but most of the models do not understand it even if you tell them 100 times and write it in her chat page.
I run cam sites since many years and I can see people who keep freeloader for months before to start buy. What it matters the guys are lurking for free in YOUR cam site instead of else one, and then when someone will decide to pay anything, this will be in YOUR cam site instead of somewhere else.
MFC limits nothing so people lurk there and if finally anyone pay something it does in MFC. So Chaturbate does well to not limit anything and have no limits or nags on tubecamgirl.com too.

About the success of a cam site that's not just how you make the "please register to continue" alerts, it is a little more complicated

travs · 09-17-2012, 08:37 PM

pretty nifty i must say

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7

I'm pretty sure the performers have the option to only allow members (free and paid) to view and chat with them, which is a good idea.

If anyone from Chaturbate is looking, wouldn't more people sign up for free if that message pops up making signup mandatory after 2-3 cam room views?

Axel_Crak · 09-17-2012, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adult-help

please tell some better alternatives..that dont have your refer code in link..

Hi

on Crakrevenue.com we have two exclusive CAMS PPL Programs (mail join, no credit card need) with LP that convert more the direct to site traffic

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Starting 2.50$ PPL or revshare

Mail me for more info

AllAboutCams · 09-17-2012, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axel_Crak

Hi

on Crakrevenue.com we have two exclusive CAMS PPL Programs (mail join, no credit card need) with LP that convert more the direct to site traffic

Freecamsexposed.com (myfreecams)
Exposedwebcams.com (Streamate) *will be public next week

Starting 2.50$ PPL or revshare

Mail me for more info

crakrevenue is good but i would prefer if you had a landing page like
http://chaturbate.com/
http://www.streamate.com/
were you can see a page full of cams

BIGTYMER · 09-17-2012, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hony

Then he wouldn't be the alpha-male. The chatrooms at tipping sites are like watching a nature documentary sometimes; it's really monkeys in the jungle stuff. Alpha-male guy wants to be looked up to by "the gang" and he does that by tipping and gaining thanks from the girl who is like the golden calf.

Everybody worships the girl, and attacks viciously anybody who comes into the room and doesn't worship her, but there is always some guys, typically just one, who is *the* guy and everybody thanks him when he tips.

These guys don't tip to see the girls tits, they tip to get that glowing feeling when everybody in gang high 5s him and tells him he is a player...

I love the guys that tip just to be nice. All the beggars are like what do you want to see for that tip? And he's like nothing. You can almost feel the beggars pain.

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hony Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 314	Well maybe. On the other hand it attracts beggars who are conditioned to just hangout in rooms until the alpha-male throws in a few tokens to make a girl flash, so basically 99% of people get to watch for free. If you happen to be on revshare for the one big spender, then sure there is affiliate income going on there. Only 20% though which is only ... I guess that's why PPF seems attractive for a site like this. __________________ sponsors who make me money

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Harmon ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ) Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 20,007	A better question would be, why would you? I do not send traffic to them, but if I did, it would be 404 or exit pops. There are a million better alternatives that pay WAY better. Also, remember that we are talking Wegcash v2.0 here. Incoming white knight fatties sticking up for PunkerBarbie

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hony Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 314	Then he wouldn't be the alpha-male. The chatrooms at tipping sites are like watching a nature documentary sometimes; it's really monkeys in the jungle stuff. Alpha-male guy wants to be looked up to by "the gang" and he does that by tipping and gaining thanks from the girl who is like the golden calf. Everybody worships the girl, and attacks viciously anybody who comes into the room and doesn't worship her, but there is always some guys, typically just one, who is the guy and everybody thanks him when he tips. These guys don't tip to see the girls tits, they tip to get that glowing feeling when everybody in gang high 5s him and tells him he is a player... __________________ sponsors who make me money

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hony Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 314	There is a class people who you can call "would signup if they were sufficiently motivated", those ones are worth catering for. One way to be motivated is to get interested in, or feel some association with, a site or more likely a particular model. And that takes time, more than two minutes for sure, for some people it might take months. These are strategies not to be discussed, but to be tested with real traffic. And I presume that is being done. __________________ sponsors who make me money

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helterskelter808 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,405	There is simply no way you will feel an association with a model if you are a freeloading guest, because the model will quite rightly not even give you the time of day. The best way to 'motivate' someone to sign up is to let them know the popups/timeouts go away if they sign up (for free - no credit card required). Last edited by helterskelter808; 09-17-2012 at 07:00 PM..

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helterskelter808 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,405	Maybe tipping sites are different; I was thinking more of the traditional kind. I still think some kind of reminder or incentive to sign up is good though. Popups and timeouts are annoying but I think they work, for people who would sign up anyway. From affiliates POV, it's better to have such people 'motivated' to sign up ASAP, rather than 6 months down the line of forming a relationship with a model.