I don't know to be flattered or insulted.

All I do is ask challenge some of the BS put out on here. Like your thread about monetising shooting content. For a guy with skills, it's no problem. for a newbie, it could work. Odds are high it won't work. Hard work is the easy bit. If all it took in this business was hard work, people wouldn't be leaving in droves.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

amazing!

Which illegal tube sites are owned by Manwin I keep hearing about but have not seen them listed? :Oh crap I am just curious

Pornhub.com
youporn.com
tube8.com
pornMD.com
spankwire.com
keezmovies.com
xtube.com
extremetube.com
gaytube.com

go to pornhub.com and they list them all at the very top.

Precisely what is illegal about them?

Oh, Snap! Paul is baiting.......

That's exactly why we love you Paul. :thumbsup

If they are smart, they will go public as soon as it is reasonable to do so and take the money and run. Build it and then go public and get rid of your own stock while the gettin' is good and move on to the next thing.

I have come to the realization that Fabian isn't very smart at all...the people pulling his strings, are a different story.

You made an accusation you can't back up.

They, as far as can be proved, comply to DMCAs. Until you have proof otherwise, proof that will make you millions, they are legal. Unless the innocent until proven otherwise doesn't apply to Manwin.

Unless I'm wrong it will open the lid on a very tightly locked box.

Actually I didn't. I misread his question and just saw asking what tubes they own. I wasn't claiming they were illegal. And everyone knows they're are all strictly "user uploaded videos". Don't get your granny panties in a bunch.

OK. My granny knickers are untwisting as I read this.

Thanks for the list HushMoney. I take it they are illegal because they post full scenes from other companies without the company's consent? Sorry, not trying to step into the hornet's nest as I know it's a touchy subject when it comes to illegal tubes. But I assume that when someone refers to illegal tube sites, it's because the site has full scenes of another's company videos without the company's consent under the premise of "user submitted videos"?

I misread your question and just saw you asking what tubes they own. I wasn't claiming they were illegal. Sorry for the confusion.

Love the censored names, probably just a coincidence.

I know the whole "illegal" part is a touchy subject because of potential litigation complications so I understand what you mean about misreading my question. :thumbsup Let me word my question a different way. If "someone" was running an illegal tube site, is it because the illegal tube site has full scenes of another's company videos without the company's consent under the premise of "user submitted videos"? :)

The front man, or company scarecrow, does not need to be. It's not his check book.

:2 cents:

German article about Manwin
http://m.welt.de/article.do?id=polit...rregt-die-Welt

English translation

Damn! $362 million investment from mysterious places.......this is gonna make a great movie some day :1orglaugh (or at least a good episode of "American Greed on CNBC)

One does not simply give someone else 362 million dollars through US brokers without there being a paper trail as to who that money came from. If someone looked hard enough, they could find it.

IF it came from U.S. brokers.

Assuming the story is accurate, one of them said a Delaware broker was used for the "loan," which means wherever the money came from, it came through the USA, which means there is a perfect paper trail of it. And almost $400 million... you can bet those funds were triple verified to make sure they were not funding terrorism somewhere.

Correct.

Most U.S. banks will call you to confirm large dollar amounts. You will need to provide some documentation for Patriot Act or whatever banking laws they would like to hide beyond for being nosey. In short, there is bank/IRS documentation of some kind, somewhere.

Where does that information come from?

There was an article a few years ago showing that the US was the easiest place to launder money.

Yes, anything over $10,000. So I'm sure nearly $400 million grabbed a few eye balls and had to fill out a few forms.

Don't question that for a second.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...SH20_OU01_.jpg

Too bad for Manwin that they lost out to Hustler in their quest to enter the stock market through the back door, when they were outbid recently for New Frontier Media (NOOF).

Given Fabian's new legal woes with the German tax authorities, I imagine that whatever thoughts Manwin may have had about doing an IPO are pretty much dashed now.

:stoned

ADG

Ashton is not happy today

http://i.imgur.com/cly98.jpg