really? nevermind.

I have no idea where the money came from but a lot of venture capital funds are handing out money left and right these days. Read TechCrunch and cross reference CrunchBase. One guy got $45 million before he even had a product in mind. It failed. You can come up with the dumbest single use .com and get three million easy these days. Imagine what you can get if you already have revenue and a proven business plan.

But yeah a bunch of people that make less than $200k a year know exactly how a company bought part of Playboy, all of Reality Kings and a bunch of other huge shit.

Good job GFY detectives.

hardcore pornproducers wont get an ipo. Never.

Please put me in contact with these people handing out that money. :)

companies that want to go public need an investment case to convince the market to invest money.
whats would be the investment case for a porn company? long term cyclical growth? scarcity of content? :) doubtful

Move to silicon valley and make friends.

I signup for the beta of a lot of companies I hear get funding thinking their product/service will make my life easier. More times than not I ask myself "this is it?" It's amazing, really.

Those companies are out here in Vegas partying all the time. :)

But so far...nobody handing out millions of dollars for ideas. :(

Damn it!

p.s.: Fabian didn't get a real loan from a bank on his own. There are real money men backing it. And also...Fabian has never successfully built a paysite idea and had success with it.
He's been a great manager so far though. Especially with the ability to buy up all the companies that Manwin helped cripple to begin with via the mass piracy they engaged in on their tube sites the last 4 years. :)

I've been reading the history of Vegas. And every casino in Vegas from the 1940's to the 1980's was built by mob money. They always installed what they called the "sap" (front man) for legal purposes. Fabian is the "sap".
And just like the "saps" that were in Vegas...he THINKS he owns it. Right up until the plug gets pulled. :1orglaugh

I actually did some fishing on this today....and its exactly as I thought.

From a source inside Manwin:

The only reason that the guys behind Manwin want New Frontier is to take the company public through the back door. Fabian is just the front man he doesn't have a clue how that works until the real bosses tell him. There is no way that Manwin could survive the scrutiny required to go public through an IPO, so the plan is to buy New Frontier which is already publicly held and get in via the back door.

LOL.. you guys are killing me here! :) Mike, your source "inside Manwin" is funny... :)

You figured it all out! Oh God No! What do I do now?!

Another dumb reply. You are my main reason for not believing the shit that's being fed. You are not and never have shown an ounce of what it takes to run a company worth 1/4 $billion. You can only get away with it because most people here have never dealt with CEOs, MDs and Chairman at that level.

Like I said the myths and fables will get posted.

To get a sizeable investment grant, loan, investment today. The people with the money want to know everything and I do mean everything. Company inside out, products, growth plans, history, market, it's growth or shrinkage, history, future. The last thing they would do is give anyone 9 figures on a company being investigated or charged with money laundering.

At best is smacks of terrible management, at worse it could be the tip of an iceberg.

Going again for a 9 figure investment the giver will want a real in depth look at it's gamble. Anyone with two brain cells can see online porn is in decline. Manwin might be soaking up what some getting out are losing. The industry as a whole is still losing and Manwin is buying up a growing tumour.

Now this is speculation. Maybe someone is behind it, buying up declining companies as quick as possible for a cheap price or a staggered repayment. With the intention of over time, soaking up more sales than the buy outs are costing.

Mike, correct me if I'm wrong. Won't Manwin become visible to shareholder even if they do the back door thing? Who wants shares when the holding or even part of the company isn't declaring accounts?


I doubt if he's in charge of anything other than fronting.

Some here might think it's cool to turn up at a presentation looking like a tramp. That does not command the respect of staff. He has some clout, he got me $3,000.

But look at his posts. Which one gives anyone here an indication he's the owner and boss of a company worth 1/4 of a $billion?

Clearly my posts on GFY in this kind of a thread represent what I do in business. ;)

Fabian if you think I dont have sources inside Manwin you are a complete moron.

lets just toss something against the wall here...caps on what male talent gets paid at DP

yep I know why too

you do know I was partners with one of your shooters in that Dayton Club right?

wanna run your cocksucker some more?

Oh and I suppose I just guessed that 10K bribe to derrick burts right outta thin air huh Fabian?

I am confused, how is this proof mike?! :)

And I never said you do not have a source in Manwin, I said your source is funny. :)

Mike, again, how does just you claiming something prove anything?! :)

You live in your own little world. You also said you got told about the "bribe" from someone close to Derrick Burts, not someone from Manwin.

are you denying that you offered Derrick Burts 10K to recant? Please deny that.....

do tell Fabian...let your alligator mouth overload your hummigbird ass....

..thoroughly enjoying this!

Well now. When I posted this thread, I wasn't expecting all the fireworks.....lemme just grab some popcorn and site down right over-_________-here.

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:anon

ADG

What happened Fabian...wheres your big fucking playing dumb mouth now bitch?

A company goes public to raise money so they can execute a business plan faster or more effectively than they could without the money. For this reason alone I see no reason why Manwin would want to go public. Are there any major properties left that they would need a large injection of capital to buy? If there is, they'd be much better off raising it privately or borrowing.

They already have a Brazzers channel on DirecTV, and any TV network that wanted to do this sort of thing would be happy to partner with them anyway.

It's game set match folks. The only problem I see them having going forward is maintaining their growth levels, because they've pretty much exhausted the available major buying opportunities. Kink? (who probably won't sell) MetArt? (who I believe sold already) Vivid? Karups? ATK? FTV? I'm not sure many of those are really in line with their business model, either.

Why don't Hugh or Larry post on GFY? Just curious. This is great though because you get one on one interaction wth the likes of Bezos, Bloomberg and Dell on a gossip forum. Makes sense.:thumbsup No further questions now people.

We have one person on GFY, who is inside Manwin feeding us bullshit. No guesses who he is. :1orglaugh

Direct question. How many staff did you have working in Montreal at the time of the refurbishments. And how many floors did Manwin rent at the time?

Direct question...what makes you think that anyone would feel the need to answer any question asked by a...broke...perverted...ignorant...uneducated...wa shed up...old person whose claim to fame is that of a once...mediocre pornographer...that barely managed to eke out a living during his life time.

Mike, I sleep. Weird, I know. And no, I offered neither 10k nor any other amount to Derrick.

Feeding bullshit is fun. :) I am bored sometimes, just happens...

Paul, roughly 600-700 people from start of refurbishments, we had floors half of 2, 3, 4, half of 5 when we had around 600, was crammed. Shortly after starting refurb we got full first floor and 2nd floor. So at 720 today, we use 1st as swing space, we have full 2nd and 4th fully finished, 6th will be done in a couple of weeks, half of 5th too, then people will move from 3rd to 5th and 6th, and from 2nd half of 5th over to the finished part. The 5th and 3rd is finished then. Then 1st moves to 3rd and 5th and we finish 1st.

Done. :)

Oh, great, everything is so clear now!:Oh crap

Half of 2 and 5, all of 3 and 4. Am I right or was it more halves?

You got floor 1 and started a refurbishment of that floor and 2 at the same time. Am I right?

So today you have 720 staff.

1st, 2nd, and 4th fully finished, 6th and half of 5th about to be.

Then you switch the staff from from floor to floor.

Thanks for the info. This was my field for years and I know the nightmare it can be in a working building, on a working floor it's more than a nightmare. Just keeping the dust out of computers is a real problem. By the look of what the design company showed and said, this was a full job. Teams of men with different skills. From toilet installers up. Furniture removal, false floors and ceilings, electrics, tele communications, air-con, heating, windows maybe, painting, partitions, carpets and then installing the furniture. 720 people walking in and out of a building while men bring all the stuff required in and out, nightmare. Disruption to work, distraction from work, switching systems, etc.

I preferred doing this work before anyone moved in to the building. Sadly rarely did it that way.

The final proof would be a short video from one of the floors being refurbished with a picture of Fuck GFY Trolls.

Paul, full 3 and 4, 1st is not started, still swing space, 1st is the last job since its no office space except for a small HR section.

So right now 2nd and 4th is fully finished, 5th half is almost done, 6th full is almost done, moving 3rd floor to 6th and some of 5th and 2nd; then will move rest of 5th which is sitll old right now to the new half 5th, demolish and redo old half of 5th and redo all of 3rd, then 2nd-6th is done and we finish 1st with cafeteria and all new entrance.

Again, doing this for fun, I have nothing to prove to you paul... I just had too much time last night so now I gotta finish what I started ;)

Now you're being silly. Not the roll of a managing partner.

Because if that's true it looks like you're running the office 24 hours a day.

You do not make any sense Paul. Sorry.

Man, you are tipping your hand off. He obviously hit home for you to answer like that.

You'd be better off either not replying completely, or replying with some real info.

Neither does your last post.

Has any porn company gone public not been a complete flop? People want to watch it not invest their 401 k's in it. lol

a lot of truth to that statement.

Fuck you Nathan, Fabian/Manwin, Fuck Reality Kings and all who are part of your bullshit.

It is not the fact that you buy up all the lame weak cowardly companies willing to sell out.

It's that you stole content from all of us to get where you are today you piece of shit!

It is well documented that you built your business model from stealing content and placing it all over the internet for free so you could take over.

FUCK YOU.

To me, Nathan/Fabian is like Brian Cashman, the General Manager for the New York Yankees. Here's what I mean:

Cashman controls the largest sports franchise on Earth, the Yankees "resources" dwarf any other team in baseball (and any other organized sports team with the possible exceptions of some UK/European soccer clubs). So when the Yankees "fuck up" by signing a lame-ass player they just buy another one. In other words, Cashman and the Yankees can overcome many mistakes....

So when people praise Cashman for his brilliant moves I think, sure he's got the MONEY to make all these moves but having resources doesn't make him brilliant. Nathan is kind of like this to me - he can make moves because he's got resources but that doesn't mean his moves are brilliant per se or even savvy. What if RK or Vivid or whover turns out to be a bust? No matter, just pick up another company and keep movin' right along...

Anyway, congrats to the Winners. :)

Except the Yankees don't make that money off of tube sites full of stolen content. :(

And is it me...or is Paul Markham being paid by Fabian to come into these threads and completely derail them?

Paul seems to be Fabians secret weapon for taking all the heat off of him. How much is Fabian paying Paul to enter these threads and turn them into nonsensical posts about bathrooms and office space and employees...which then leads everybody to attack Paul... and Fabian walks away unscathed. :(

Paul has so much experience at the top level of so many major companies I'm not sure Fabian could afford him. He said so himself in this thread.

Paul does that to almost any business thread, even more so lately.

He starts posting, his haters come out, and then the thread turns into a bunch of 5 year old bickering back and forth. One side is just as guilty as the other. It would be nice to see the business minded threads stay on topic versus the look-at-me stuff. I understand Paul has haters and all, and that some of those have no self control. But he's just as bad at times, and often times baits the trap. Whether knowingly or not.

:disgust

BF, all I can say about this entire situation is:


and also...

i very much enjoyed the bathroom and remodeling discussion

Just wait until he gets into how many light bulbs per month are used. :disgust

Whatever Fabian is paying him...Paul is worth every penny. :1orglaugh

Don't be afraid to manwin, folks!

Dafuq did I just read?

My response to Fabian deserves its own thread

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=19187905#post19187905

best not to bluff me Fabian......

Just for a laugh. Get five pages of A5 and some marbles and start working out what Fabian is saying about moving staff. Then think of it in terms of moving 250 of them at a time.

Yes Mike, he's a bluffer. Pity he came onto my old stomping ground. With all the one to two man bands here, he could of got away with it.

Can anyone here really think he's in charge of a company employing 1,000 people or a lot more?

Paul, you have your own section at gfy to settle these things!