Iran may launch pre-emptive strike on Israel, conflict could grow into WWIII - senior commander

[halfpint]

will it happen ???

An Iranian military official has warned that military conflict between Iran and Israel could ?turn into World War III.? He added that if Israel ?is putting the final touches on attacking Iran,? a preemptive strike against Tel Aviv would ensue.

haIsrael ?cannot imagine? the force of Iran?s response if Tel Aviv attacks it, Brigadier General Amir Ali Hajizadeh told Iran?s Arabic-language television network. ?It will sustain heavy damage and that will be a prelude to its obliteration,? he said.

Hajizadeh added that Iran does not see this happening at the moment because he does not believe that Israel will conduct an attack without its strongest ally ? the United States.

If America does decide to back an Israeli plan to strike Iran, Hejizadeh insists Tehran will retaliate against both Tel Aviv and Washington.

http://rt.com/news/iran-strike-israel-world-war-803/

[pornmasta]

i'll NEVER happen (i mean a strike)

[Rangermoore]

Iran will never attack anyone.. Just a lot of talk.. again

[Rochard]

Iran can strike out at whomever they wish. They can beat their hands on their fists, pretend they own Persian Gulf, and even shoot off missiles into Israel. The truth is the nature of warfare has changed, and instead of large ground forces trying to occupy territory instead we quickly take out a government and it's military forces.

Look at what happened in Iraq - Our military forces moved so quickly and took out both the government and it's military that the entire country was nothing more than a power vacuum with over a hundred thousand Iraqis being killed. If this is what Iran wants for it's citizens, so be it.

Can Iran fuck up the Persian Gulf? They sure can. However, take special note of all of the pipelines that have been built in the Gulf - and more importantly who built them. It wasn't the US. All of the countries that use the Persian Gulf to ship oil... Now have pipelines that lead to the Red Sea. In the mean time, the US will get all of it's oil from the same places - Canada and Mexico.

[PornoMonster]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Iran can strike out at whomever they wish. They can beat their hands on their fists, pretend they own Persian Gulf, and even shoot off missiles into Israel. The truth is the nature of warfare has changed, and instead of large ground forces trying to occupy territory instead we quickly take out a government and it's military forces.

Look at what happened in Iraq - Our military forces moved so quickly and took out both the government and it's military that the entire country was nothing more than a power vacuum with over a hundred thousand Iraqis being killed. If this is what Iran wants for it's citizens, so be it.

Can Iran fuck up the Persian Gulf? They sure can. However, take special note of all of the pipelines that have been built in the Gulf - and more importantly who built them. It wasn't the US. All of the countries that use the Persian Gulf to ship oil... Now have pipelines that lead to the Red Sea. In the mean time, the US will get all of it's oil from the same places - Canada and Mexico.

We moved so quickly in 1991 we are still there!!

[papill0n]

lol a sucker born every minute

[2012]

[Matt 26z]

I've grown more tired of Israel by the year. I don't really blame them for anything. They are victims of their geographic location in the world.

It's just that at some point the US has to reevaluate what protecting Israel is worth. We have gifted them over $1 Trillion total and still after all this time they would be a third world country without our financial aid.

The ugly truth is that the world would be a much more stable place if Israel were to be destroyed. Then we (the entire west) could truly just leave the middle east alone and they would do the same. No more fighting wars to protect Israel and no more terrorist attacks against the west because we support Israel.

Israel = more trouble than they are worth.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Israel = more trouble than they are worth.

[ajrocks]

wonder why the US hasn't just gone in to Iran at this point. They have gone in to all kinds of middle east areas for no reason at all. I think they just don't have the budget to pay for it!

[pornguy]

Right now its a dick swinging competition.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by ajrocks

I think they just don't have the budget to pay for it!

Bush didn't let little things like that stop him.

[xNetworx]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Dude just give up already. You are a joke of a man at this point.

[xNetworx]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

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The ugly truth is that the world would be a much more stable place if Israel were to be destroyed.

If this happened it would cause WWIII you fucking moron

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Rangermoore

Iran will never attack anyone.. Just a lot of talk.. again

So then, why all the big fuss ????

[halfpint]

I dont see any of this being reported on the BBC or other western news outlets for some reason

Iran threatens to attack US bases if war erupts

Iranian officials say they aren't scared of Israel’s threats of a military assault aimed at their rumored nuclear warhead program, but a senior officer in Iran's Revolutionary Guard says such a strike would warrant retaliation against US bases.

Should Israel make good with its warning of using military force to take down an Iranian nuke procurement plan, Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard says that the response will be costly for the United States military, even if America does not endorse a unilateral strike on Iran.

Gen. Hajizadeh explains in a statement this week that America’s continuing support of Israel is enough to associate them with any attack waged against Iran, even if the US has officially condemned any plans to put boots in the ground to dismantle the rumored nuclear program.

"For this reason, we will enter a confrontation with both parties and will definitely be at war with American bases should a war break out," Hajizadeh says, according to a post on Iran's state Al-Alam TV.

http://rt.com/usa/news/iran-us-bases-israel-889/

And here they are showing of thier new drones and missiles

http://rt.com/news/iran-military-drone-missile-907/

[PornMD]

My thoughts? Better Iran than China or Russia. With Iran, at least we can probably resolve it without nuclear weapons. If shit ever hits the fan with China or Russia, I really worry about the world. It would not take much to obliterate tens if not hundreds of millions of people, flatten cities, etc. Yea, that many people died in WW2 over a number of years - it could happen in a week or two today.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by PornMD

My thoughts? Better Iran than China or Russia. With Iran, at least we can probably resolve it without nuclear weapons. If shit ever hits the fan with China or Russia, I really worry about the world. It would not take much to obliterate tens if not hundreds of millions of people, flatten cities, etc. Yea, that many people died in WW2 over a number of years - it could happen in a week or two today.

Taking on Iran will be taking on China and Russia. And on a cynical note with all the Ant-American HATRED going on worldwide right now, I bet Canada will attack us just to be cool.

[Matyko]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Israel = more trouble than they are worth.

You are talking about real people, dude. Families, children, hundreds of thousands of lives of Real People. Are you insane?

What about handicapped/blind/etc people? They are "more trouble than they are worth" too? And retired people? They just cost money, we could shoot them into a river and could decrease taxes!!!!





I am deeply disturbed and worried about Iran~Israel conflict and really don't want to see a [major] war ...

[Matyko]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

shame on you!
hey you old retarded scum, please put me on ignore.
i hope that this 0.02 is the last 2 cents you own asshat

you are old enough and you should remember how bad a war is.

you do not deserve to have the same citizenship as Milos Forman

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Matyko

You are talking about real people, dude. Families, children, hundreds of thousands of lives of Real People. Are you insane?

What about handicapped/blind/etc people? They are "more trouble than they are worth" too? And retired people? They just cost money, we could shoot them into a river and could decrease taxes!!!!





I am deeply disturbed and worried about Iran~Israel conflict and really don't want to see a [major] war ...

Israel's right wing, all right wingers everywhere for that matter need to be taken out of power, - revolution - . They are a threat to moderate and lefty Israeli's and most of the free world that is true.

The anti-muslim film may have irrevocably/irreversibly typed the barrel in the wrong direction.

[Matyko]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Israel's right wing, all right wingers everywhere for that matter need to be taken out of power, - revolution - . They are a threat to moderate and lefty Israeli's and most of the free world that is true.

The anti-muslim film may have irrevocably/irreversibly typed the barrel in the wrong direction.

I agree with you about right wing thing, however I would add the same about left wing: all kind of radicalism is bad.

I am not defending Israel's[foreign] politics. I don't know it in depth but what I know I dislike. Shame on them too, and generally: shame on all politicians, fucking leeches of the world.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by ajrocks

wonder why the US hasn't just gone in to Iran at this point. They have gone in to all kinds of middle east areas for no reason at all. I think they just don't have the budget to pay for it!

Because the USA is a bully who no longer fights people who can fight back or has hard ass friends like China and Russia who may come to their aid. Otherwise, both Iran and North Korea would have been "liberated' from their evil leaders already and there would be US bases there.

[ModelsFirstAudition]

Hajizadeh is a nobody who has just stated something inflammatory to get kudos from his cronies. A Brigadier-General has almost no say on strategic matters, and this is obviously just his little spur of the moment opinion to a question he has no real understanding of.

If anything, this shows the lower levels of command and control the Iranian military has over its upper echelons, akin to the Soviet Union in its last days. Allowing such pointless posturing could be percieved as weakness, and therefore I can guarantee Hajizadeh will feel consequences of his actions.

[seeandsee]

Nuke Iran, and war is ended?

[PR_Glen]

if you pay attention you will notice that any conflict in the world is described as "what could possibly lead to world war 3" at one point or another. even that mix up in kosovo with the US a number of years back.

so next time you hear a general, a politician, a member of the media, a talk show host use such a reference step back and remember... they are just like the rest of us and scream for attention. so much so that they feel the need to draw up false importance to their otherwise dull life.

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Matyko

I agree with you about right wing thing, however I would add the same about left wing: all kind of radicalism is bad.

I am not defending Israel's[foreign] politics. I don't know it in depth but what I know I dislike. Shame on them too, and generally: shame on all politicians, fucking leeches of the world.

I'd like to vaporize every fucking politician in the world. Step 1.

[Best-In-BC]

I cant see how Israel isnt the problem

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by PornMD

My thoughts? Better Iran than China or Russia. With Iran, at least we can probably resolve it without nuclear weapons. If shit ever hits the fan with China or Russia, I really worry about the world. It would not take much to obliterate tens if not hundreds of millions of people, flatten cities, etc. Yea, that many people died in WW2 over a number of years - it could happen in a week or two today.

Having nuclear weapons changes nothing. If the US got into a war with Russia during the Cold War, what would have happened? Do you think one side would just start blindly launching nukes? They wouldn't, because the other side would respond with the same.

Pakistan has nukes.....

The problem with Iran is we fear that if Iran gets nukes, they will turn them around and give them to terrorists.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

I've grown more tired of Israel by the year. I don't really blame them for anything. They are victims of their geographic location in the world.

It's just that at some point the US has to reevaluate what protecting Israel is worth. We have gifted them over $1 Trillion total and still after all this time they would be a third world country without our financial aid.

The ugly truth is that the world would be a much more stable place if Israel were to be destroyed. Then we (the entire west) could truly just leave the middle east alone and they would do the same. No more fighting wars to protect Israel and no more terrorist attacks against the west because we support Israel.

Israel = more trouble than they are worth.

As you do not live here, your opinion about the relationship between Israel and the US means about as much as the dog shit in my back yard.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by PornoMonster

We moved so quickly in 1991 we are still there!!

That's incorrect.

In 1991 we bitch smacked Iraq but never had the intention of entering Iraq or overthrowing their government. It was a stunning defeat for the Iraqi government and it's military. In fact, it was embarrassment.

When we returned we quickly smacked down their military, but this time we took out their government. It happened so quickly there was a complete power vacuum. We stayed to help establish security. How successful we were with establishing security you can debate until the end of time. But you can't really call it a war; It was safer for US Marines to be in Iraq than at home.

I'm not sure why Iran thinks they can beat anyone in battle. They had a ten year battle with Iraq that was a draw. We had a ten week battle with Iraq that resulted in our complete victory.

[HighlyIntoxicated]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Having nuclear weapons changes nothing. If the US got into a war with Russia during the Cold War, what would have happened? Do you think one side would just start blindly launching nukes? They wouldn't, because the other side would respond with the same.

Pakistan has nukes.....

The problem with Iran is we fear that if Iran gets nukes, they will turn them around and give them to terrorists.

Why aren't people afraid of Pakistan giving terrorists nukes? They kept Osama safe. Why is Iran more likely to give a nuke to terrorists?

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I'm not sure why Iran thinks they can beat anyone in battle. They had a ten year battle with Iraq that was a draw. We had a ten week battle with Iraq that resulted in our complete victory.

Got that, everyone? The last 10 years was really 10 weeks.

[campimp]

Originally Posted by Rochard

It was safer for US Marines to be in Iraq than at home.

tell that to the almost 4,500 members of the U.S. military that died there

Originally Posted by Rochard

I'm not sure why Iran thinks they can beat anyone in battle. They had a ten year battle with Iraq that was a draw. We had a ten week battle with Iraq that resulted in our complete victory.

from Reuters, dated 12/18/2011
"The last convoy of U.S. soldiers pulled out of Iraq on Sunday, ending nearly nine years of war that cost almost 4,500 American and tens of thousands of Iraqi lives, and left a country grappling with political uncertainty."

*not to mention the debt it put on the economy

Could the U.S. go in and take out Iran's leaders and defeat its army in a few weeks as you suggest... yes they most likely could, i agree with you on that... but i think most Americans realize it is never that simple. I also believe it is unfair to characterize what happened in Iraq as something that lasted just 10 weeks, in my opinion that is not being honest about what really took place over there, and it is not fair to the soldiers that fought there for years to do so. It shows a complete lack of respect for the lives that were lost over there during the last decade.

[oppoten]

I don't think it will happen. No-one wants a third world war, apart maybe from the neo-cons and Israeli right-wingers.

China and Russia certainly don't want it, but nor would they stand idly by if Iran was attacked. I think this is the reason why it won't happen.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by campimp

tell that to the almost 4,500 members of the U.S. military that died there

I'm pretty sure I've attended more funerals of soldiers who died in Iraq than you have.

You have more US Marines dieing on crotch rockets here in the states than you have dieing in Iraq:

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-10-30/u...rider?_s=PM:US

[Ecchi22]

People just love war and WWIII (but to watch it from the distance and discuss on forums)

[leg4]

Its gettin, its gettin, Its gettin' Kind of Hectic...

20 years ago SNAP told us all about this...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=z33tH-JdPDg

[moeloubani]

Originally Posted by Rochard

I'm pretty sure I've attended more funerals of soldiers who died in Iraq than you have.

You have more US Marines dieing on crotch rockets here in the states than you have dieing in Iraq:

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-10-30/u...rider?_s=PM:US

Yeah but that's a stupid way to compare the number of deaths. What you want to ask is how many people are killed in war related things, needlessly. Sure if I sit in a room in Iraq I never moving then I'll have a way lower chance to die in some sort of accident but that doesn't mean Iraq is safer.