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halfpint 09-23-2012 07:27 PM

Iran may launch pre-emptive strike on Israel, conflict could grow into WWIII - senior commander
 
will it happen ???

An Iranian military official has warned that military conflict between Iran and Israel could ?turn into World War III.? He added that if Israel ?is putting the final touches on attacking Iran,? a preemptive strike against Tel Aviv would ensue.

haIsrael ?cannot imagine? the force of Iran?s response if Tel Aviv attacks it, Brigadier General Amir Ali Hajizadeh told Iran?s Arabic-language television network. ?It will sustain heavy damage and that will be a prelude to its obliteration,? he said.

Hajizadeh added that Iran does not see this happening at the moment because he does not believe that Israel will conduct an attack without its strongest ally ? the United States.

If America does decide to back an Israeli plan to strike Iran, Hejizadeh insists Tehran will retaliate against both Tel Aviv and Washington.

http://rt.com/news/iran-strike-israel-world-war-803/

pornmasta 09-23-2012 07:43 PM

i'll NEVER happen (i mean a strike)

Rangermoore 09-23-2012 08:00 PM

Iran will never attack anyone.. Just a lot of talk.. again

Rochard 09-23-2012 08:38 PM

Iran can strike out at whomever they wish. They can beat their hands on their fists, pretend they own Persian Gulf, and even shoot off missiles into Israel. The truth is the nature of warfare has changed, and instead of large ground forces trying to occupy territory instead we quickly take out a government and it's military forces.

Look at what happened in Iraq - Our military forces moved so quickly and took out both the government and it's military that the entire country was nothing more than a power vacuum with over a hundred thousand Iraqis being killed. If this is what Iran wants for it's citizens, so be it.

Can Iran fuck up the Persian Gulf? They sure can. However, take special note of all of the pipelines that have been built in the Gulf - and more importantly who built them. It wasn't the US. All of the countries that use the Persian Gulf to ship oil... Now have pipelines that lead to the Red Sea. In the mean time, the US will get all of it's oil from the same places - Canada and Mexico.

PornoMonster 09-23-2012 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19207128)
Iran can strike out at whomever they wish. They can beat their hands on their fists, pretend they own Persian Gulf, and even shoot off missiles into Israel. The truth is the nature of warfare has changed, and instead of large ground forces trying to occupy territory instead we quickly take out a government and it's military forces.

Look at what happened in Iraq - Our military forces moved so quickly and took out both the government and it's military that the entire country was nothing more than a power vacuum with over a hundred thousand Iraqis being killed. If this is what Iran wants for it's citizens, so be it.

Can Iran fuck up the Persian Gulf? They sure can. However, take special note of all of the pipelines that have been built in the Gulf - and more importantly who built them. It wasn't the US. All of the countries that use the Persian Gulf to ship oil... Now have pipelines that lead to the Red Sea. In the mean time, the US will get all of it's oil from the same places - Canada and Mexico.

We moved so quickly in 1991 we are still there!!

papill0n 09-23-2012 09:20 PM

lol a sucker born every minute

2012 09-23-2012 09:30 PM

http://i.imgur.com/b7FRY.jpg

Matt 26z 09-23-2012 09:32 PM

I've grown more tired of Israel by the year. I don't really blame them for anything. They are victims of their geographic location in the world.

It's just that at some point the US has to reevaluate what protecting Israel is worth. We have gifted them over $1 Trillion total and still after all this time they would be a third world country without our financial aid.

The ugly truth is that the world would be a much more stable place if Israel were to be destroyed. Then we (the entire west) could truly just leave the middle east alone and they would do the same. No more fighting wars to protect Israel and no more terrorist attacks against the west because we support Israel.

Israel = more trouble than they are worth.

Paul Markham 09-24-2012 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19207178)
Israel = more trouble than they are worth.

:2 cents:

ajrocks 09-24-2012 10:10 AM

wonder why the US hasn't just gone in to Iran at this point. They have gone in to all kinds of middle east areas for no reason at all. I think they just don't have the budget to pay for it!

pornguy 09-24-2012 10:22 AM

Right now its a dick swinging competition.

Paul Markham 09-25-2012 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrocks (Post 19208050)
I think they just don't have the budget to pay for it!

Bush didn't let little things like that stop him.

xNetworx 09-25-2012 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19207674)
:2 cents:

Dude just give up already. You are a joke of a man at this point.

xNetworx 09-25-2012 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19207178)
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The ugly truth is that the world would be a much more stable place if Israel were to be destroyed.

If this happened it would cause WWIII you fucking moron

directfiesta 09-25-2012 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rangermoore (Post 19207099)
Iran will never attack anyone.. Just a lot of talk.. again

So then, why all the big fuss ????

halfpint 09-25-2012 12:39 AM

I dont see any of this being reported on the BBC or other western news outlets for some reason

Iran threatens to attack US bases if war erupts

Iranian officials say they aren't scared of Israel’s threats of a military assault aimed at their rumored nuclear warhead program, but a senior officer in Iran's Revolutionary Guard says such a strike would warrant retaliation against US bases.

Should Israel make good with its warning of using military force to take down an Iranian nuke procurement plan, Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard says that the response will be costly for the United States military, even if America does not endorse a unilateral strike on Iran.

Gen. Hajizadeh explains in a statement this week that America’s continuing support of Israel is enough to associate them with any attack waged against Iran, even if the US has officially condemned any plans to put boots in the ground to dismantle the rumored nuclear program.

"For this reason, we will enter a confrontation with both parties and will definitely be at war with American bases should a war break out," Hajizadeh says, according to a post on Iran's state Al-Alam TV.

http://rt.com/usa/news/iran-us-bases-israel-889/

And here they are showing of thier new drones and missiles

http://rt.com/news/iran-military-drone-missile-907/

PornMD 09-25-2012 01:10 AM

My thoughts? Better Iran than China or Russia. With Iran, at least we can probably resolve it without nuclear weapons. If shit ever hits the fan with China or Russia, I really worry about the world. It would not take much to obliterate tens if not hundreds of millions of people, flatten cities, etc. Yea, that many people died in WW2 over a number of years - it could happen in a week or two today.

Captain Kawaii 09-25-2012 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 19209724)
My thoughts? Better Iran than China or Russia. With Iran, at least we can probably resolve it without nuclear weapons. If shit ever hits the fan with China or Russia, I really worry about the world. It would not take much to obliterate tens if not hundreds of millions of people, flatten cities, etc. Yea, that many people died in WW2 over a number of years - it could happen in a week or two today.

Taking on Iran will be taking on China and Russia. And on a cynical note with all the Ant-American HATRED going on worldwide right now, I bet Canada will attack us just to be cool. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Matyko 09-25-2012 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19207178)
Israel = more trouble than they are worth.

You are talking about real people, dude. Families, children, hundreds of thousands of lives of Real People. Are you insane? :helpme

What about handicapped/blind/etc people? They are "more trouble than they are worth" too? And retired people? They just cost money, we could shoot them into a river and could decrease taxes!!!!





I am deeply disturbed and worried about Iran~Israel conflict and really don't want to see a [major] war ... :helpme :Oh crap :Oh crap :helpme

Matyko 09-25-2012 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 19207674)
:2 cents:

shame on you!
hey you old retarded scum, please put me on ignore.
i hope that this 0.02 is the last 2 cents you own asshat :2 cents:

you are old enough and you should remember how bad a war is.

you do not deserve to have the same citizenship as Milos Forman :2 cents:

Captain Kawaii 09-25-2012 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 19209742)
You are talking about real people, dude. Families, children, hundreds of thousands of lives of Real People. Are you insane? :helpme

What about handicapped/blind/etc people? They are "more trouble than they are worth" too? And retired people? They just cost money, we could shoot them into a river and could decrease taxes!!!!





I am deeply disturbed and worried about Iran~Israel conflict and really don't want to see a [major] war ... :helpme :Oh crap :Oh crap :helpme

Israel's right wing, all right wingers everywhere for that matter need to be taken out of power, - revolution - . They are a threat to moderate and lefty Israeli's and most of the free world that is true.

The anti-muslim film may have irrevocably/irreversibly typed the barrel in the wrong direction.

Matyko 09-25-2012 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19209763)
Israel's right wing, all right wingers everywhere for that matter need to be taken out of power, - revolution - . They are a threat to moderate and lefty Israeli's and most of the free world that is true.

The anti-muslim film may have irrevocably/irreversibly typed the barrel in the wrong direction.

I agree with you about right wing thing, however I would add the same about left wing: all kind of radicalism is bad.

I am not defending Israel's[foreign] politics. I don't know it in depth but what I know I dislike. Shame on them too, and generally: shame on all politicians, fucking leeches of the world. :2 cents:

DWB 09-25-2012 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajrocks (Post 19208050)
wonder why the US hasn't just gone in to Iran at this point. They have gone in to all kinds of middle east areas for no reason at all. I think they just don't have the budget to pay for it!

Because the USA is a bully who no longer fights people who can fight back or has hard ass friends like China and Russia who may come to their aid. Otherwise, both Iran and North Korea would have been "liberated' from their evil leaders already and there would be US bases there.

ModelsFirstAudition 09-25-2012 03:33 AM

Hajizadeh is a nobody who has just stated something inflammatory to get kudos from his cronies. A Brigadier-General has almost no say on strategic matters, and this is obviously just his little spur of the moment opinion to a question he has no real understanding of.

If anything, this shows the lower levels of command and control the Iranian military has over its upper echelons, akin to the Soviet Union in its last days. Allowing such pointless posturing could be percieved as weakness, and therefore I can guarantee Hajizadeh will feel consequences of his actions.

seeandsee 09-25-2012 03:38 AM

Nuke Iran, and war is ended?

PR_Glen 09-25-2012 05:57 AM

if you pay attention you will notice that any conflict in the world is described as "what could possibly lead to world war 3" at one point or another. even that mix up in kosovo with the US a number of years back.

so next time you hear a general, a politician, a member of the media, a talk show host use such a reference step back and remember... they are just like the rest of us and scream for attention. so much so that they feel the need to draw up false importance to their otherwise dull life.

Captain Kawaii 09-25-2012 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 19209801)
I agree with you about right wing thing, however I would add the same about left wing: all kind of radicalism is bad.

I am not defending Israel's[foreign] politics. I don't know it in depth but what I know I dislike. Shame on them too, and generally: shame on all politicians, fucking leeches of the world. :2 cents:

I'd like to vaporize every fucking politician in the world. Step 1.

Best-In-BC 09-25-2012 08:03 AM

I cant see how Israel isnt the problem

Rochard 09-25-2012 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 19209724)
My thoughts? Better Iran than China or Russia. With Iran, at least we can probably resolve it without nuclear weapons. If shit ever hits the fan with China or Russia, I really worry about the world. It would not take much to obliterate tens if not hundreds of millions of people, flatten cities, etc. Yea, that many people died in WW2 over a number of years - it could happen in a week or two today.

Having nuclear weapons changes nothing. If the US got into a war with Russia during the Cold War, what would have happened? Do you think one side would just start blindly launching nukes? They wouldn't, because the other side would respond with the same.

Pakistan has nukes.....

The problem with Iran is we fear that if Iran gets nukes, they will turn them around and give them to terrorists.

baddog 09-25-2012 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 19207178)
I've grown more tired of Israel by the year. I don't really blame them for anything. They are victims of their geographic location in the world.

It's just that at some point the US has to reevaluate what protecting Israel is worth. We have gifted them over $1 Trillion total and still after all this time they would be a third world country without our financial aid.

The ugly truth is that the world would be a much more stable place if Israel were to be destroyed. Then we (the entire west) could truly just leave the middle east alone and they would do the same. No more fighting wars to protect Israel and no more terrorist attacks against the west because we support Israel.

Israel = more trouble than they are worth.

As you do not live here, your opinion about the relationship between Israel and the US means about as much as the dog shit in my back yard.

Rochard 09-25-2012 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19207163)
We moved so quickly in 1991 we are still there!!

That's incorrect.

In 1991 we bitch smacked Iraq but never had the intention of entering Iraq or overthrowing their government. It was a stunning defeat for the Iraqi government and it's military. In fact, it was embarrassment.

When we returned we quickly smacked down their military, but this time we took out their government. It happened so quickly there was a complete power vacuum. We stayed to help establish security. How successful we were with establishing security you can debate until the end of time. But you can't really call it a war; It was safer for US Marines to be in Iraq than at home.

I'm not sure why Iran thinks they can beat anyone in battle. They had a ten year battle with Iraq that was a draw. We had a ten week battle with Iraq that resulted in our complete victory.

HighlyIntoxicated 09-25-2012 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19210357)
Having nuclear weapons changes nothing. If the US got into a war with Russia during the Cold War, what would have happened? Do you think one side would just start blindly launching nukes? They wouldn't, because the other side would respond with the same.

Pakistan has nukes.....

The problem with Iran is we fear that if Iran gets nukes, they will turn them around and give them to terrorists.

Why aren't people afraid of Pakistan giving terrorists nukes? They kept Osama safe. Why is Iran more likely to give a nuke to terrorists?

helterskelter808 09-25-2012 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19210555)
I'm not sure why Iran thinks they can beat anyone in battle. They had a ten year battle with Iraq that was a draw. We had a ten week battle with Iraq that resulted in our complete victory.

Got that, everyone? The last 10 years was really 10 weeks.

campimp 09-25-2012 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19210555)
It was safer for US Marines to be in Iraq than at home.

tell that to the almost 4,500 members of the U.S. military that died there

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19210555)
I'm not sure why Iran thinks they can beat anyone in battle. They had a ten year battle with Iraq that was a draw. We had a ten week battle with Iraq that resulted in our complete victory.

from Reuters, dated 12/18/2011
"The last convoy of U.S. soldiers pulled out of Iraq on Sunday, ending nearly nine years of war that cost almost 4,500 American and tens of thousands of Iraqi lives, and left a country grappling with political uncertainty."

*not to mention the debt it put on the economy

Could the U.S. go in and take out Iran's leaders and defeat its army in a few weeks as you suggest... yes they most likely could, i agree with you on that... but i think most Americans realize it is never that simple. I also believe it is unfair to characterize what happened in Iraq as something that lasted just 10 weeks, in my opinion that is not being honest about what really took place over there, and it is not fair to the soldiers that fought there for years to do so. It shows a complete lack of respect for the lives that were lost over there during the last decade.

oppoten 09-25-2012 05:00 PM

I don't think it will happen. No-one wants a third world war, apart maybe from the neo-cons and Israeli right-wingers.

China and Russia certainly don't want it, but nor would they stand idly by if Iran was attacked. I think this is the reason why it won't happen.

Rochard 09-25-2012 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by campimp (Post 19210977)
tell that to the almost 4,500 members of the U.S. military that died there

I'm pretty sure I've attended more funerals of soldiers who died in Iraq than you have.

You have more US Marines dieing on crotch rockets here in the states than you have dieing in Iraq:

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-10-30/u...rider?_s=PM:US

Ecchi22 09-25-2012 06:13 PM

People just love war and WWIII (but to watch it from the distance and discuss on forums) :)

leg4 09-25-2012 06:39 PM

Its gettin, its gettin, Its gettin' Kind of Hectic...

20 years ago SNAP told us all about this...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=z33tH-JdPDg

moeloubani 09-25-2012 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19211247)
I'm pretty sure I've attended more funerals of soldiers who died in Iraq than you have.

You have more US Marines dieing on crotch rockets here in the states than you have dieing in Iraq:

http://articles.cnn.com/2008-10-30/u...rider?_s=PM:US

Yeah but that's a stupid way to compare the number of deaths. What you want to ask is how many people are killed in war related things, needlessly. Sure if I sit in a room in Iraq I never moving then I'll have a way lower chance to die in some sort of accident but that doesn't mean Iraq is safer.


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