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Caver · 02-13-2003, 04:59 PM

They are taking over 50% of the income on the traffic. IMO a broker should not be taking more than 50%

you sell 1K uniques for $1.64
you pay TGPS $0.70 for 1K uniques

For every thousand hits I GENERATE you make .94 and i make .70

How can you think TGPS are going ot want a broker system that takes 57.31% of the icome on thier traffic.
Plus your system only rotates the galleries 24 hours meaning you can only use the gallery link once on the page.

Am a wrong? I somehow don't believe you are paying more than choker did. Anyone know the percentage of income choker took?

gothweb · 02-13-2003, 05:01 PM

Um. Choker isn't paying at all, now, right? So its sortof a moot point.

Theo · 02-13-2003, 05:02 PM

fair or not? Wrong question. If you like something you use it, if you don't, you don't use it. It's business, there's no such thing as fair or not.

strobi · 02-13-2003, 05:50 PM

Choker still pays... 5$/1000 top clicks.... message him or visit the forum for more details

gothweb · 02-13-2003, 05:52 PM

Guess I misunderstood all the news that he had stopped.

Wizzo · 02-13-2003, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
fair or not? Wrong question. If you like something you use it, if you don't, you don't use it. It's business, there's no such thing as fair or not.

Very well said...

RMG2 · 02-13-2003, 05:57 PM

Seems choker starting paying for traffic to his new system.

I find it odd that he made such a huge deal at first that not enough webmasters were taking cash back.

Then everyone starts taking cash back and he says too many people want cash instead of traffic, so he cuts the payout.

Then he completely cuts off paying for traffic all together.

Now he is suddenly offering cash to his new system.

Hrm...

Backov · 02-13-2003, 05:59 PM

Strangely, after we launched, Choker decided that he could pay for some traffic again after all. He's still paying less than us.

As for your comments - there's a business term called margin. You might consider it to be high - but if we'd started lower, it sure doesn't give us much maneuvering room now does it?

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Plus your system only rotates the galleries 24 hours meaning you can only use the gallery link once on the page.

Bzzt. Wrong. Read again.

Bottom line: If your traffic isn't shit, you make more sending to us than you would elsewhere. Gallery spot buyers get better quality traffic than if they had bought it elsewhere.

It's all about the bottom line isn't it.

gothweb · 02-13-2003, 05:59 PM

I don't think this thread is about Choker, though. It is about SpotBrokers.

It seems like an interesting idea to me. They seem trustworthy, and the system looks pretty slick.

RMG2 · 02-13-2003, 06:03 PM

70.00 for 10k/uniques to galleries. Seems good, but keep in mind...it is for uniques and not raws. They dont accept proxy traffic (All of AOL). I'll have to look at it more.

Backov · 02-13-2003, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by RMG2
70.00 for 10k/uniques to galleries. Seems good, but keep in mind...it is for uniques and not raws. They dont accept proxy traffic (All of AOL). I'll have to look at it more.

I should clarify that - all proxy is passed through to the gallery. Abusable open proxies (NOT AOL) - are not paid for or charged for.

Foreign traffic never hits the galleries.

Edit: That number is actually wrong, it's $7 per 10k to galleries. $70 for non-gallery traffic.

Cheers,
Backov

gothweb · 02-13-2003, 06:06 PM

That's not bad... paying for uniques, not raw.

I'm curious... What counts as foreign?

corvette · 02-13-2003, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
fair or not? Wrong question. If you like something you use it, if you don't, you don't use it. It's business, there's no such thing as fair or not.

beautifully put

Backov · 02-13-2003, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb
That's not bad... paying for uniques, not raw.

I'm curious... What counts as foreign?

There's a whole list inside.. Any country that can't be processed for, or has crazy scrub/chargeback ratios is under the junk category...

Gotta run, Survivor - check in during commercials.

Cheers,
Backov

MonkeyMan · 02-13-2003, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by gothweb
That's not bad... paying for uniques, not raw.

I'm curious... What counts as foreign?

Afghanistan,Albania,Algeria,Andorra,Angola,Argenti na,Armenia,Azerbaijan,Bahrain,Bangladesh,Belarus,B enin,Bhutan,Bolivia,Bosnia and Herzegovina,Botswana,Bouvet Island,Brazil,Brunei Darussalam,Bulgaria,Burkina Faso,Burundi,Cambodia,Cameroon,Cape Verde,Central African Republic,Chad,Chile,China,Christmas Island,Cocos (Keeling) Islands,Colombia,Comoros,Congo,Congo, The Democratic Republic of the,Costa Rica,Cote D'Ivoire,Croatia,Cuba,Czech Republic,Djibouti,Dominica,Dominican Republic,East Timor,Ecuador,Egypt,El Salvador,Equatorial Guinea,Eritrea,Estonia,Ethiopia,Falkland Islands (Malvinas),Faroe Islands,Gabon,Gambia,Georgia,Ghana,Grenada,Guadelo upe,Guatemala,Guinea,Guinea-Bissau,Guyana,Haiti,Honduras,Hong Kong,Hungary,India,Indonesia,Iran, Islamic Republic of,Iraq,Israel,Italy,Japan,Jordan,Kazakstan,Kenya, Kiribati,Korea, Democratic People's Republic of,Korea, Republic of,Kuwait,Kyrgyzstan,Lao People's Democratic Republic,Latvia,Lebanon,Lesotho,Liberia,Libyan Arab Jamahiriya,Lithuania,Luxembourg,Macau,Macedonia, the Former Yugoslav Republic of,Madagascar,Malawi,Malaysia,Maldives,Mali,Malta, Marshall Islands,Mauritania,Mauritius,Mayotte,Micronesia, Federated States of,Moldova, Republic of,Monaco,Mongolia,Montserrat,Morocco,Mozambique,M yanmar,Namibia,Nauru,Nepal,New Caledonia,Nicaragua,Niger,Nigeria,Niue,Norfolk Island,Northern Mariana Islands,Oman,Pakistan,Palau,Palestinian Territory, Occupied,Papua New Guinea,Paraguay,Peru,Philippines,Pitcairn,Poland,P ortugal,Puerto Rico,Qatar,Reunion,Romania,Russian Federation,Rwanda,Saint Pierre and Miquelon,Saint Helena,Samoa,San Marino,Sao Tome and Principe,Saudi Arabia,Senegal,Seychelles,Sierra Leone,Singapore,Slovakia,Slovenia,Solomon Islands,Somalia,South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands,Sri Lanka,Sudan,Suriname,Svalbard and Jan Mayen,Swaziland,Syrian Arab Republic,Taiwan, Province of China,Tajikistan,Tanzania, United Republic of,Thailand,Togo,Tokelau,Tonga,Trinidad and Tobago,Tunisia,Turkey,Turkmenistan,Turks and Caicos Islands,Tuvalu,Uganda,Ukraine,United Arab Emirates,Uruguay,Uzbekistan,Venezuela,Vietnam,Wall is and Futuna,Western Sahara,Yemen,Yugoslavia,Zaire,Zambia,Zimbabwe

Thier non-gallery payouts are still pretty good.

Backov · 02-13-2003, 06:24 PM

If you have more than 30% foreign, then I would be surprised. Easypic has far less than that, as does Shemp.

Also, if you think gallery buyers want any of that traffic burning their bandwidth, you are mistaken. Traffic from those countries is so close to worthless I can't begin to tell you.

Prices were calculated to make sure that sellers moving to us would make the same or more than they did with Choker, AFTER deductions for proxy and foreign.

Cheers,
Backov

Caver · 02-13-2003, 06:37 PM

5.00$ per 1k

0.70$ per 1k

I dont see how thats more no matter how you filter it.

p+mpd0g · 02-13-2003, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by Caver
5.00$ per 1k

0.70$ per 1k

I dont see how thats more no matter how you filter it.

hey choker why are you posting under a new nick babe?

dont want to look like a fool again?
oh ok.. carry on..

RAM · 02-13-2003, 06:46 PM

When will you have Bondage - BDSM traffic - galleries ?

gothweb · 02-13-2003, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by p+mpd0g

hey choker why are you posting under a new nick babe?

dont want to look like a fool again?
oh ok.. carry on..

Ouch.

Fletch XXX · 02-13-2003, 06:47 PM

fuck getting paid.

do it for free.

Caver · 02-13-2003, 06:48 PM

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
(BTW I'm not choker)

gothweb · 02-13-2003, 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
fuck getting paid.

do it for free.

I always fuck for free.

Choker · 02-13-2003, 07:27 PM

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Strangely, after we launched, Choker decided that he could pay for some traffic again after all. He's still paying less than us.

Please do not post things about me or my programs that are not true. You make this sound like I am trying to copy your shit. Think this thru real good dude. You and I are cool with each other let's keep it that way please.

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hey choker why are you posting under a new nick babe?

You and I are going to dance real soon.

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I don't think this thread is about Choker, though. It is about SpotBrokers

No it's not but things are being said about me that are not true.

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Seems choker starting paying for traffic to his new system.
I find it odd that he made such a huge deal at first that not enough webmasters were taking cash back.
Then everyone starts taking cash back and he says too many people want cash instead of traffic, so he cuts the payout.
Then he completely cuts off paying for traffic all together.
Now he is suddenly offering cash to his new system.
Hrm...

I do what I have to do to make sure my programs survive and grow. You know and I know that I have always posted reasons behind EVERY single change I have ever made. Did I have too? NO. I did it because it was the right thing to do.

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fair or not? Wrong question. If you like something you use it, if you don't, you don't use it. It's business, there's no such thing as fair or not

I agree. The more programs like mine the better it is for me. For idiots like Pimpshit who do not even understand how TGP's work, I am not even going to go into a long explanation why this is. You guys who run TGP's know why I want competition like Spotbrokers.

Backov · 02-13-2003, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Caver
5.00$ per 1k

0.70$ per 1k

I dont see how thats more no matter how you filter it.

You definitely have some reading comprehension issues.

First off, we pay $7 per 1k for non-gallery traffic, not $5

And we pay 70c per 1k for gallery. Chokers rate rate was 33c before he stopped. It may be up to 50c again. Less.

p+mpd0g · 02-13-2003, 07:49 PM

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I agree. The more programs like mine the better it is for me. For idiots like Pimpshit who do not even understand how TGP's work, I am not even going to go into a long explanation why this is. You guys who run TGP's know why I want competition like Spotbrokers.

It is really ashame you sont see what I see.

spotbrokers is going to put you under. period.

p+mpd0g · 02-13-2003, 07:51 PM

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You and I are going to dance real soon.

lets dance bitch. bring it redneck.. I got your sunshine right here nancy boy (i stole that from quiet)
hehe

MonkeyMan · 02-13-2003, 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by p+mpd0g

It is really ashame you sont see what I see.

spotbrokers is going to put you under. period.

Um... actaully a TGP using a mix of both systems will end up benefiting. In turn both systems should benefit from each other.

Backov · 02-13-2003, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by RAM
When will you have Bondage - BDSM traffic - galleries ?

When we get enough filler galleries to activate the category.. Right now we've got just about 0, IIRC.

Cheers,
Backov

p+mpd0g · 02-13-2003, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by MonkeyMan
Um... actaully a TGP using a mix of both systems will end up benefiting. In turn both systems should benefit from each other.

I have made a promise not to say a fucking word, and I wont. we will see.

MonkeyMan · 02-13-2003, 07:56 PM

Although Spotbrokers does have the fact that they dont use headers/footers on thier side.

p+mpd0g · 02-13-2003, 07:58 PM

I will bow out of this out of respect for kimmykim and backov.

lick my sack chocker.

Choker · 02-13-2003, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by p+mpd0g

lets dance bitch. bring it redneck.. I got your sunshine right here nancy boy (i stole that from quiet)
hehe

Ok, Here we go. It's time to dance.

RMG2 · 02-13-2003, 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by Backov

You definitely have some reading comprehension issues.

First off, we pay $7 per 1k for non-gallery traffic, not $5

And we pay 70c per 1k for gallery. Chokers rate rate was 33c before he stopped. It may be up to 50c again. Less.

Huge difference tho. Choker paid for RAWS, you only pay for filtered uniques.

Choker · 02-13-2003, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by p+mpd0g
I will bow out of this out of respect for kimmykim and backov.

lick my sack chocker.

Oh no too late for that dogshit. Come back here let's dance. You want more? You are lucky this is the slow time of the day.

02-13-2003, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by RMG2

Huge difference tho. Choker paid for RAWS, you only pay for filtered uniques.

hrm.. I sure dont want to speak for them.. But as I understand it..

the filtered traffic(unique) is higher quality no? then wtf are you crying about?

as a seller I can see your gripe, but its not valid.. you are expecting them to buy your shit taffic, thats too bad isnt it? now you cant sell off your shit traffic any longer lol praise the lord!.. as a buyer, Im glad they are doing this.. this program will be 100 times more valueble than chockers ever was.

this ofcoarse is my opinion, and If I am unclear, please correct me.

02-13-2003, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by Choker

Oh no too late for that dogshit. Come back here let's dance. You want more? You are lucky this is the slow time of the day.

shuddup newbie, the adults are talking.

RMG2 · 02-13-2003, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by p`mpd0g

hrm.. I sure dont want to speak for them.. But as I understand it..

the filtered traffic(unique) is higher quality no? then wtf are you crying about?

as a seller I can see your gripe, but its not valid.. you are expecting them to buy your shit taffic, thats too bad isnt it? now you cant sell off your shit traffic any longer lol praise the lord!.. as a buyer, Im glad they are doing this.. this program will be 100 times more valueble than chockers ever was.

this ofcoarse is my opinion, and If I am unclear, please correct me.

I'm not saying its not higher quality, or better/worse for they spot buyers. I'm simply saying the same surfer could earn you 10 paid impressions on choker system (before he changed it anyway). I actually dont even fuck with shit tgp traffic anymore. I'm SEO for a few sites now....but TGP still intrigues me and I will always dable in it, by running sites or submitting to them.

Backov · 02-13-2003, 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by RMG2

Huge difference tho. Choker paid for RAWS, you only pay for filtered uniques.

Not really. Read the FAQ.

Here's the jist of it - every time a surfer hits a new gallery, he is counted as a unique. Up to 6 times per category.

Take a look at the traffic report, compare the ratio of uniques to raws.

As for filtered traffic, yes I know - we're filtering it. That's why we're offering more.

But what do I care, stick with Choker if you like - or try us. You'll get more out of us, but that's your biz.

Remember - it's all about the bottom line.

Cheers,
Backov

RMG2 · 02-13-2003, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by Backov

Not really. Read the FAQ.

Here's the jist of it - every time a surfer hits a new gallery, he is counted as a unique. Up to 6 times per category.

Take a look at the traffic report, compare the ratio of uniques to raws.

As for filtered traffic, yes I know - we're filtering it. That's why we're offering more.

But what do I care, stick with Choker if you like - or try us. You'll get more out of us, but that's your biz.

Remember - it's all about the bottom line.

Cheers,
Backov

Ah, well said Backov....I didnt read closely enough.
I actually have some plans in the works with paid gallery spots. I plan to try both....who do I think will bring me a better ROI.....well....just guess.

Choker · 02-13-2003, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by p`mpd0g

shuddup newbie, the adults are talking.

I guess that means you want more then. Ok give me a few secs to update here.

chAos-mAtrix · 02-13-2003, 09:02 PM

Backov can you contact me please ... 101955210 icq i am intersted in talking to you about some shit

fuck the rest of this crap bitching ....

My advice run your fucking programs the best way that you can and if it is a viable product then people will use it ... if it is not then people will not use it ...

now i am sitting back with the popcorn

Choker · 02-13-2003, 09:04 PM

Ok Pimpshit update done. Let me know if you want more bitch. I got plenty more if you can take it. Shit all my sites and galleries combined serve up close to 40 mill page views a day. We can put this dance in high gear if you want. Just give me the word. Fuck, how about Disco, can you disco bitch??????????

Choker · 02-13-2003, 09:09 PM

Here doggy doggy doggy, where are you?

Backov · 02-13-2003, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by RMG2

Ah, well said Backov....I didnt read closely enough.
I actually have some plans in the works with paid gallery spots. I plan to try both....who do I think will bring me a better ROI.....well....just guess.

Ya no worries, we're just coming up and things aren't as well documented as they should be. I hope everything will be clearer as we shake out.

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My advice run your fucking programs the best way that you can and if it is a viable product then people will use it ... if it is not then people will not use it ...

Ya, I agree. I don't think there's really any pissing going on here, just a lot of misconceptions. To be expected. I'll give you an ICQ man, my double Survivor-CSI fix is over. ;>

Cheers,
Backov

Sly_RJ · 02-13-2003, 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by Choker
Ok Pimpshit update done. Let me know if you want more bitch. I got plenty more if you can take it. Shit all my sites and galleries combined serve up close to 40 mill page views a day. We can put this dance in high gear if you want. Just give me the word. Fuck, how about Disco, can you disco bitch??????????

I'm quoting this.

Our server load just went above 6, it's usually below .9.

Choker · 02-13-2003, 09:12 PM

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Ya, I agree. I don't think there's really any pissing going on here, just a lot of misconceptions.

Only pissing going on is between me and that Pimpshit. Now where is that little mutt at now?

Choker · 02-13-2003, 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

I'm quoting this.

Our server load just went above 6, it's usually below .9.

Ummmm, what are you trying to say dude?

chAos-mAtrix · 02-13-2003, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by Choker
Fuck, how about Disco, can you disco bitch??????????

I can dance really well i think as long as you do not mind me stepping on your toes

sorry man i had to .... i am bored sitting here watching this

Choker · 02-13-2003, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

I'm quoting this.

Our server load just went above 6, it's usually below .9.

This is nothing, shit I have pushed over 400.00 on servers and not have them crash on me. 6.00 is NOTHING dude. No worries here I think

02-13-2003, 04:59 PM	#1
Caver Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3	spotbrokers.com - fair? They are taking over 50% of the income on the traffic. IMO a broker should not be taking more than 50% you sell 1K uniques for $1.64 you pay TGPS $0.70 for 1K uniques For every thousand hits I GENERATE you make .94 and i make .70 How can you think TGPS are going ot want a broker system that takes 57.31% of the icome on thier traffic. Plus your system only rotates the galleries 24 hours meaning you can only use the gallery link once on the page. Am a wrong? I somehow don't believe you are paying more than choker did. Anyone know the percentage of income choker took?

02-13-2003, 05:01 PM	#2
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Um. Choker isn't paying at all, now, right? So its sortof a moot point. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

02-13-2003, 05:02 PM	#3
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	fair or not? Wrong question. If you like something you use it, if you don't, you don't use it. It's business, there's no such thing as fair or not. Last edited by Theo; 02-13-2003 at 05:06 PM..

02-13-2003, 05:52 PM	#5
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	Guess I misunderstood all the news that he had stopped. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

02-13-2003, 05:59 PM	#9
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I don't think this thread is about Choker, though. It is about SpotBrokers. It seems like an interesting idea to me. They seem trustworthy, and the system looks pretty slick. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

02-13-2003, 05:50 PM	#4
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	Choker still pays... 5$/1000 top clicks.... message him or visit the forum for more details

02-13-2003, 05:57 PM	#7
RMG2 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 106	Seems choker starting paying for traffic to his new system. I find it odd that he made such a huge deal at first that not enough webmasters were taking cash back. Then everyone starts taking cash back and he says too many people want cash instead of traffic, so he cuts the payout. Then he completely cuts off paying for traffic all together. Now he is suddenly offering cash to his new system. Hrm...

02-13-2003, 06:03 PM	#10
RMG2 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 106	70.00 for 10k/uniques to galleries. Seems good, but keep in mind...it is for uniques and not raws. They dont accept proxy traffic (All of AOL). I'll have to look at it more.

02-13-2003, 06:06 PM	#12
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	That's not bad... paying for uniques, not raw. I'm curious... What counts as foreign? __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

02-13-2003, 06:24 PM	#16
Backov Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cat Detector Van Posts: 1,600	If you have more than 30% foreign, then I would be surprised. Easypic has far less than that, as does Shemp. Also, if you think gallery buyers want any of that traffic burning their bandwidth, you are mistaken. Traffic from those countries is so close to worthless I can't begin to tell you. Prices were calculated to make sure that sellers moving to us would make the same or more than they did with Choker, AFTER deductions for proxy and foreign. Cheers, Backov __________________ <embed src="http://banners.spotbrokers.com/button.swf" FlashVars="clickURL=http://banners.spotbrokers.com" quality=high pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="120" height="60"></embed>

02-13-2003, 06:37 PM	#17
Caver Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3	5.00$ per 1k 0.70$ per 1k I dont see how thats more no matter how you filter it.

02-13-2003, 06:46 PM	#19
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02-13-2003, 06:47 PM	#21
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02-13-2003, 06:48 PM	#22
Caver Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3	Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. (BTW I'm not choker)

02-13-2003, 07:56 PM	#31
MonkeyMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New York.... Not the city... Up north further. Its about a six hour drive to the city from here. I don't like the city much. The air is not as clean, but they do have better strip clubs. Posts: 1,026	Although Spotbrokers does have the fact that they dont use headers/footers on thier side.

02-13-2003, 07:58 PM	#32
p+mpd0g So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12	I will bow out of this out of respect for kimmykim and backov. lick my sack chocker.

02-13-2003, 09:02 PM	#42
chAos-mAtrix Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: FUCKING Los Angeles Posts: 111	Backov can you contact me please ... 101955210 icq i am intersted in talking to you about some shit fuck the rest of this crap bitching .... My advice run your fucking programs the best way that you can and if it is a viable product then people will use it ... if it is not then people will not use it ... now i am sitting back with the popcorn __________________ chAos (Jeff) Director of Operations www.matrixcontent.com - Woody Winner www.matrixbucks.com - Earn 30 per Free Join www.matrixdollars.com - 50/50 PartnerSites

02-13-2003, 09:04 PM	#43
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	Ok Pimpshit update done. Let me know if you want more bitch. I got plenty more if you can take it. Shit all my sites and galleries combined serve up close to 40 mill page views a day. We can put this dance in high gear if you want. Just give me the word. Fuck, how about Disco, can you disco bitch?????????? __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

02-13-2003, 09:09 PM	#44
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	Here doggy doggy doggy, where are you? __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o