Porn for chicks.

Yes I can, and I like what I see there!

It's hard to create something of quality and "unique" and I think so many of the videos I see there have unique themes, excellent photo quality that matches the video quality and well written stories posted to compliment the content. Great work :thumbsup

You want to know the answer but if you do not have lots of traffic you need not reply? What does that have to do with anything?

You have to truly appreciate what Sex Art brings to the table. Simply put, it's classy. I could easily sit there with my wife and watch it if I wanted to. It reminds me of a hardcore version of the Cinemax porno's. There's definitely a market for it, as I make some decent sales with their site. Is it for everyone? No. Honestly, their movies bore me, but most porn does. I'm just here for the money ;) Although, I do in fact appreciate what they're producing. Some people are tired of seeing throat fucked whores gagging on huge cocks, and the ex-gf market is not what it used to be. Porn runs in fads. In a few months, you'll see something different come along and blow it all out of the water once again. Don't get me wrong, there will always be a market for every niche in porn, it's just not "trending" like the others IMO.

As for it being ripped from X-Art, I cant comment on that as I honestly haven't even really taken a good look at X-Art's site, nor PassionHD I think it is.

I don't entirely disagree with your premise, but the thing is... Their videos aren't really appealing to me as a woman in a straight relationship. At all. I don't want to see fake poses and stuff that looks like it belongs in a magazine. That doesn't say "making love" to me, it just says "porn." Because that's what most porn is:fake, posed sex. Which is why it's so funny to me that they are trying to pretend this "isn't porn" somehow.

:thumbsup Their stuff is boring to me too but I promote them and they do make sales. I actually enjoy promoting some stuff I don't really like...it's easy for me to sell niches I love and know so when I'm trying to sell something different it's a new challenge.

We don't 'pose' anyone. I'm going to have to argue that you haven't actually watched our videos from the past 3 months - not our photo sets - our videos.

I'm sure you will argue that you have and I welcome that...but show me a scene that you're describing. And remember that real sex isn't always perfect, it can be somewhat awkward and not the sex of your dreams.

I'm not saying YOU have to be turned on by it (and your opinion as a woman is very valuable to us), but I am saying that our videos - our entire premise for filming REAL sex - is not posed.

haha wow

These people are comical and it definitely does not start or end with her. There are many more where she came from.:disgust

I'll have to admit before I saw a couple of linked samples that I thought sexart was simply a less raw/gonzo version of hardcore porn... ie better makeup, better lighting, less shaky camera, and the chick not gasping "oh yeah!!!" every 3 seconds.

FWIW, I've been promoting metart for years, even before it was called metart. But I guess I'm one of those idiots.

fitty open questions - FUBARRRR

just the phrase 'open question'.. each to their own, bump for them

The samples are far too short for anyone who has not been inside the members area to make a good comment on the content. So unless you can show a selection of full scenes, don't expect anything but the replies. A 30 second edited sample is not even close to base a decent opinion on, so why ask? Other than thinking it was a good excuse to get a lot of praise and some affiliates.

This was my email to you from last night.

Up to you if you want to read constructive comments.

Ha ha Wow, do you have anything to contribute? other than ha ah wow?

What annoys me is that if music were the subject and we were all talking about how an alternative hip hop group all of a sudden decided to add a female vocalist and subsequently started topping the pop charts with dance tracks, the likely response of not just hip hop fans, but also many knowledgeable music fans in general, would be that the band 'sold out'.

Here in this industry, if someone looks at 2012 X-ART and the increased prevalence of hardcore stuff and then compares it to 2010 X-ART (The Dangerous Girl) or 2009 X-ART (Unzipped) and says that they 'sold out', the largely short-sighted masses will quickly cite how X-ART is likely making a shitload more now than they did then and have therefore not 'sold out' but have simply figured out ways to better monetize.

That would all be fine and dandy if it weren't for the fact that now the fashion photographer/artist with a watered down product which lacks the vision it once had now has to compete with 'professional monetizers' who could really care less about the artistry of the product.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that while SexArt is not what I personally prefer to watch, I respect it because it represents what is clearly the result of someone's artistic vision and artistic vision is something which the industry sorely lacks. Without it the professional monetizers would prove to be nothing more than modern day alchemists.

Now I haven't actively promoted SexArt but do have a few things up here and there and it does certainly seem like there have been quite a few more MetArt sales coming through since after the launch of SexArt but it also seems like they are always coming through in atypical dollar amounts. So I'm not exactly sure what's selling and where.

If I were to actively market it, though, I would market the vision as much as or more than the product itself in like a lifestyle marketing type of way because, unlike the content, it's something that cannot be pirated.

Disclaimer: I am a former or actual partner/worker of some of the programs mentioned.

Now it is quite funny question is made about sexart.com of metart program, and half the people answering about x-art.com of x-cash program.
Guys first of all: question is about sexart.com and not x-art.com :)

Anyway x-art.com it was was before: beautyisdivine.com , and there was no sex or male actors, it was much like met-art or femjoy (at the time one would have said: he copied met-art, even if the first site of the genre it was domai.com - still online since 1997 and with no any sex).

In fact, beautyisdivine launched x-art, it had success (at least was promoted in every tgp featuring met-art and femjoy stuff), then femjoy launched joymii.com to have own "they fuck but it is art not porn" brand, then met-art launched sexart finally, and I would say with a bigger investment, and involving some real mainstream directors.

Then manwin launched babes.com "The best glamcore site on the net".

Is there some differencies with a bangbros gonzo thing or with a russian teensex thing? The girls (and guys) are not more pretty, you can find same prettyness if searching well even in a casualteensex.com (disclaimer: we provide cams to their program, but was just an example of non glamcore).
A main difference it is: music, moaning, language, in other words, the audio.
Another difference it is: backgrounds, slower motion (up to unrealistic slow, but hey this is art, if you want a real wild life documentary, go gonzo or casual teen sex), and list it can continue.

Someone is impressed by such a style and prefers it to gonzo or casual teen sex one. I would not be sure this is so "new" really, it is same to say, there was no any "pretentiously artistic" porn before. By the way it is porn, just one style of it.

Cam girls are of different styles too. Some cam girl are more gonzo (will jump on toys and say dirty words), while others will play the shy and romantic one who appreciate art and needs so long to just end up naked and will play different music in background, eventually Chopin piano concertos, while wear 1920 styled stuff. Each of these shows will get its different audience, it is called niches. It is still naked people who end up making the viewer horny, so the law will always call it porn, as well as the average person in street.

What is art? guys I got a degree in arts an an arts institute, I have my own paintings on walls of my office, and I am still unsure. Maybe no one of us ever made any art, or everyone of us. Putting the word ART in your brand and domain name, that is legit, does it make the its contents ART? You to decide :)

I think SexArt has more in common with Dorcel than with any of those other sites.

What about Egon Schiele? Koons? Helmut Newton? Ellen von Unwerth? Mapplethorpe? Where'd you get that art degree?

wasn't Ingrid about 20 in the Boigie flicks?

My sentence it is about the average people in the street, and the law. If you don't tell them, previously: this is art, and certify it by show the author in a museum... they just think Schiele it is porn drawing made by some kid or pervert. Try showing Schiele dirty stuff to random people does not know it is Schiele and you don't tell them too.
Years ago I made some web design software, and as sample images in examples there was some Modigliani painting too (it was before 2004 , when a movie about him it was made: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367188/ ), and some teacher wrote me this sample (as well as others with naked angels butts from 1600 italian church painting?) was inappropriate for kids so she could not teach my software in her web design class.
Unless I had provided a version of software with no nude paintings in examples...

could care less who you work for, OR who works for met, sorry... you're not the center of my world. you asked a legitimate question then immediately became confrontational when you didn't get the replies you wanted. I don't see how you could represent any organization on a public forum.

as for met: any letter I would write them would be about fucking the crews over, lying to the crews etc...

FYI: hiring below the line is not an endless world pool like content models. and in the end a good crew is worth more than a content model. :2 cents:

WHAT?? I AM NOT THE CENTER OF YOUR WORLD?

and your comment about fucking crews over? WTF are you even talking about? if you want to lay shit out here, do it. but don't make accusations or insuate shit without backing it up.

Hit it on the nose...WE (SexArt) are truly aiming to produce original content, nothing like any other site has had before. Everyone won't appreciate it, but we don't expect that.

If you want truly original, totally unique content, we have it.

This is just an observation, gleaned from years in the biz in front and behind the camera, from high end glam productions shot on film to the truly amateur shot on tripod type stuff.

I have been working on this thesis that there is a direct inverse correlation between the "hot" and "cold" interaction of the performers in ratio to the amount of production; i.e., the more lighting, the more cameras, camera assistants, the more dollys, cranes, boom mics, grips, etc. standing around to make a scene look "hot" the "colder" the action will be.

It is very rare the reverse is true and a big part of why amateur videos with zero production values oftentimes are way hotter - and I don't mean in a way that appeals only to men either - because that is the single biggest complaint I hear from female viewers about porn in general - the performances are coldly calculating and lack passion's "heat".

That said, I would have to look again but when I looked previously this would have been my critique.

correct answer: I'm sure there is some misunderstanding if any crews feel that there are issues with pay... I'll sure look into that.

(then on your end you don't do shit, BUT it looks like you are a caring rep to the company)

see what I mean, you are deffinitly not the public face met needs :2 cents:

Fukkk uuu!

just tried to singup as x-art affilaite and got this 8 times : Form reCAPTCHA response did not match the challenge string. Hit your browser's BACK button to try again.

what a load of crap...

You know what? Fukkk uuu too!

Have a problem with it????

My advice would be to post a full scene, or movie that we can all see.

All you're getting now is comments from trolls or people who have only seen a trailer.

While many of the comments in this thread hold grains of truth within them I seriously don't think most of you (most - not all) "get it" as to why ErosExotica, XArt, Fellucia Blow, MetArt etc sell.

It is NOT the lighting, or the production values, or the music, or the cameras used, or the editing techniques, or the pacing of the scenes, or the transition effects.....

....ALONE. Yes, all those things are contributing factors and help to enhance the REAL reasons this type of "porn" sells.

TOP 5 REASONS:

1. No anonymous, stunt-cock sex. The performers look like they actually know each other and haven't met 5 minutes before the Director said 'Action'. Believe it or not, having met your lover before you fuck them makes a wee differance in the sex.

2. No talent overexposure. The actresses (not the male talent; sorry guys but only twinks notice the dudes) have not been seen in a hundred hardcore, nasty fuck scenes. In other words, it would be extremely difficult for a Charley Chase or an India Summer (as just a couple examples, no offense meant) to "pull off" a MetArt scene because people have seen them everywhere doing everything.

3. The sex itself does not come across as your standard 3-position bang-a-thon. You know, almost every porn scene on Earth starts with a blowjob, maybe some pussy-licking in reciprication (tho often not), then reverse cowgirl, doggy and missionary, then a pop shot on the face (see below)....how original and thrilling! You can substitute spooning, cowgirl or pile-driving for any of the above "standard" positions but it's almost always three.

4. No Money Shot in the face. Okay, some Fellucia Blow and XArt blowjob scenes end with facials, but generally the "money shot" doesn't happen on a girl who's just recently dismounted some giant pecker pole like an Olympic gymnast.

5. No pain, lotsa gain. Most (again, not all) porn shot today looks like consensual rape, with the girl being hit, spat on, choked, spanked raw, held down as she's pounded endlessly - and of course she's supposed to "love it"! With sites like ErosExotica there's affection, caressing, loving gazes, sensual kissing, and the scariest emotion of all to the sex-addicted, drug-addicted narcissists who populate this Industry - intimacy.

But go ahead, PLEASE continue to not get it so that those of us who do can make a killing while the rest of the adult industry withers and dies. Pretty please?

;) well said

The answer is 16.

And now the cat is out of the bag. You just couldn't keep quiet, huh? :winkwink:

i did, please view 51

best of luck to you.

The answer of everything it is 42

http://okpanico.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/42.jpg

No, Sexart is not like the rest so it remains 16.

Whoa whoa guys...take it easy.
I have to agree with the guys on here that say SexArt is a unique classy type of site.
Obviously it doesn't work for everyone...but that is no reason to hate on it so much.

Jill at MetArt also happens to be one of my favorite affiliates to work with and her passion and loyalty for the company she works for is quite clear after going through this thread...I respect that a lot.
I don't see the big deal in asking her peers on GFY for some constructive criticism...I do it all the time and it's always been so beneficial for me.

I'm not saying anyone here is wrong or right...but Jill is good people, no need to be mean.

Word.

Love working with you too and that's right, 2!!! Not one but 2!! :winkwink:

I see the difference :thumbsup

Fuck the haters!!!

Thanks Dean...coming from you that means alot :)

My intention was to get feedback and whether it's positive or negative, it is all valuable.

There are so many amazing companies in this niche and we respect them all while recognizing there are differences between all of us. The reason we ALL sell so well in this niche is because it IS different and everyone has their own taste which ultimately is somewhat defined by what each of the companies within this niche release.

The retention within our niche is 3-4 times greatear than the industry standard. And the reason is because people are looking for something they haven't been getting from every other suck-bang-blow pornsite.

So the reality is, as Mr. Peabody pointed out, tapping into sales in this niche is golden. And the more educated webmasters are about the products they are promoting, the better they can sell it.

I just spoke with Amnon and I gotta say I was completely mistaken in my comments in fact I have been a member of metart for over 5 years. my apologies, Brian

They are ALL like that. Fuck em all to hell.:321GFY