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Choopa Phil 08-20-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC (Post 19135694)
I just like good food too much to stop eating it. I rather make up for it in the gym. :thumbsup

Yup!

I have my days where i eat pizza, and burgers, and pastries. Once you reach a certain point with your physique your body can actually take advantage of the calories since your baseline caloric intake goes up as muscle mass increases

Barefootsies 08-20-2012 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19135704)
Yup!

I have my days where i eat pizza, and burgers, and pastries. Once you reach a certain point with your physique your body can actually take advantage of the calories since your baseline caloric intake goes up as muscle mass increases

....and then you can eat Hungry Man's every day!!

andrej_NDC 08-20-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sexvideosex (Post 19135697)
I have no idea what you are talking about but the best diet is: only eat when you are hungry.


Actually thats the easiest way to gain pure fat. The body is stressed and when you eat then, the body tries to save as much fat(from the food) as possible, as it doesn't know when you are going to eat again. Body saves fat for worse times, when you stress it. When you eat all the time, it doesn't need to do back-ups.

Barefootsies 08-20-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19135676)
Perhaps the best thing about it (aside from not being a fatso): the standard western diet is a perfect recipe for type-2 diabetes due to it wearing out your pancreas. I'll skipping that one, thanks.

http://www.cancer.ucla.edu/index.asp...d=385&page=644

Choopa Phil 08-20-2012 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19135710)
....and then you can eat Hungry Man's every day!!


I can honestly eat whatever I want without really going over the 10-12% Bf point. I wouldnt eat those simply because I know theyre the equivalent to microwave mcdonalds. I stay away from all fast food...except chipoltle...i love that place.

Barefootsies 08-20-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19135715)
I can honestly eat whatever I want without really going over the 10-12% Bf point. I wouldnt eat those simply because I know theyre the equivalent to microwave mcdonalds. I stay away from all fast food...except chipoltle...i love that place.

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Choopa Phil 08-20-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19135724)

I miss dyna he was very knowledgeable on the subject. anyone know what happened to him and his little supplement business?

Barefootsies 08-20-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19135731)
I miss dyna he was very knowledgeable on the subject. anyone know what happened to him and his little supplement business?

He was indeed.

Looks like he's been gone a year or so. I would guess he is living it up in riches. No need for GFY.

AnniKN 08-20-2012 11:51 AM

Most of the people I've seen with long term results are indeed lifestyle changes.

Keep to 1200 cals a day, keep to "good" carbs, little fat, lots of protein, do cardio every day, weight training 4 times a week and you're set. Then when you've reached the desired weight you start adding up until you are at your appropriate intake of cals and it levels out. But you must keep moving or else D:

Choopa Phil 08-20-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AnniKN (Post 19135745)
Most of the people I've seen with long term results are indeed lifestyle changes.

Keep to 1200 cals a day, keep to "good" carbs, little fat, lots of protein, do cardio every day, weight training 4 times a week and you're set. Then when you've reached the desired weight you start adding up until you are at your appropriate intake of cals and it levels out. But you must keep moving or else D:

1200 cals for a female maybe...really is dependent on the person's stats and gender.

KillerK 08-20-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AnniKN (Post 19135745)
Most of the people I've seen with long term results are indeed lifestyle changes.

Keep to 1200 cals a day, keep to "good" carbs, little fat, lots of protein, do cardio every day, weight training 4 times a week and you're set. Then when you've reached the desired weight you start adding up until you are at your appropriate intake of cals and it levels out. But you must keep moving or else D:

That's way to low, I would suggest you get tested to see how many calories a day
you actually burn. I was told to eat 1700-1900 calories a day.

PR_Glen 08-20-2012 01:24 PM

BF I have the same problem when it comes to drinking fluids. i have issues drinking water all day, i'm getting better but can NOT drink it in the evenings. I just make some home made iced tea with a bit of sweetener and I also make my own lemonade. Amazing how easy it is to make those. Gets me by anyway, and keeps me out of the diet pops..

AnniKN 08-20-2012 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19135749)
1200 cals for a female maybe...really is dependent on the person's stats and gender.

True that, bad wording - 1000 less than what you spend per day to lose 2 pounds per week is what I meant, and never under 1200 or starvation mode ensues - or something :Oh crap

gleem 08-20-2012 01:38 PM

I've lost 60 pounds twice with atkins, and I'm about ready to do it again... so the answer is .... NO, sure works great to lose weight, impossible to stick to for the rest of your life.

PR_Glen 08-20-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem (Post 19136009)
I've lost 60 pounds twice with atkins, and I'm about ready to do it again... so the answer is .... NO, sure works great to lose weight, impossible to stick to for the rest of your life.

you don't need to though.. but it sounds like you are trying to find a cure for your over eating.. this diet doesn't fix that. Nothing is going to allow you to eat crap all the time. Believe me i've tried ;)

running 10k a day didn't even help to cover that.

Bryan G 08-20-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem (Post 19136009)
I've lost 60 pounds twice with atkins, and I'm about ready to do it again... so the answer is .... NO, sure works great to lose weight, impossible to stick to for the rest of your life.

If you're having to go on the atkins diet to lose 60lbs you are clearly eating the wrong food. Its not rocket science. Eat protein at each meal, avoid fried foods, eat veggies and fruits. Its not hard. Oh and always avoid processed food.

gleem 08-20-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19136018)
you don't need to though.. but it sounds like you are trying to find a cure for your over eating.. this diet doesn't fix that. Nothing is going to allow you to eat crap all the time. Believe me i've tried ;)

running 10k a day didn't even help to cover that.

I don't overeat, I sit at the computer too much and am just naturally fat via genetics and body type. I've clocked my caloric intake at 2000 calories on an average day, hardly over eating. Sure some say it's an under active thyroid, low T, age... whatever, I just know that if I eat a normal 2000 calorie diet I gain 10 pounds a year.

So I figured instead of dieting I would just workout this year to lose the 40 to 60... so I started working with my weights in April and I've gained 9 pounds so far lol. Sure it's muscle I hope, but hardly the weight loss catalyst it used to be when I was younger.

The thought of going back on a low carb diet and eating baked chicken and brocolli and all my other high protein low carb meals makes me wretch anymore. Fuckin sucks, and fuck you all who don't have to diet. :1orglaugh

Choopa Phil 08-20-2012 01:50 PM

A diet shouldnt be something temporary which is why "diets" fail. A the definition of a diet is what you eat on a daily basis. if you do it temporary the changes will only be that...temporary.

MakingItPay 08-20-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19135395)
Re-read my post. I didn't say anything about him dying of hyper tension, clinical obesity or heart problems. But he undeniably died whilst being clinically obese, and also suffering from hyper tension and heart problems.

You guys and your comprehension problems...

Then he was not following the Atkins diet. High Glycemic Carbs make you fat. :thumbsup

Try the Slow Carb Diet from Tim Ferris. You will have a cheat day that will help you get through the pain of not eating delicious pizza, sweets, breads, pastas.

Choopa Phil 08-20-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MakingItPay (Post 19136048)
Then he was not following the Atkins diet. High Glycemic Carbs make you fat. :thumbsup

Try the Slow Carb Diet from Tim Ferris. You will have a cheat day that will help you get through the pain of not eating delicious pizza, sweets, breads, pastas.

all carbs make you fat...they dont feed pizza and pasta to cows, they feed them grains.

PornoMonster 08-20-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19135492)
The hardest part for me is drinks. I literally am drinking something all day long.

1. Sobe Water (0 calories, some carbs, via sugar substitute)
2. Diet Coke (0 calories, no clue on carbs, sugar of some sort)
3. Smoothies (calories, carbs, natural sugar)

Most of what I prefer to drink throughout the day has some sort of sugar (whether synthetic, natural, or refined) or substitute. I do not like to drink straight water, I am not a coffee drinker, nor care for tea. Making my choices limited in regards to cutting out the sugary drinks.

:disgust

Once I quit even Diet soda I lost more weight. I then learned that the stuff in Diet things, makes you MORE hungry!

One should never cut out anything totally, you will FAIL at a diet. What I did was I still go to Texas Road House to eat, but when they bring the rolls instead of eating 7 of them I only eat ONE now.
I lost 43 Pounds or more of FAT in 90 days, with little exercise except the last 30 days.
The reason I said or more, is I lost 43 pounds, but I know I gained muscle also, so I am sure I would of lost more weight (not healthy) if I just cut calories, and didn't eat right!
I also did protein shakes

MakingItPay 08-20-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19136053)
all carbs make you fat...they dont feed pizza and pasta to cows, they feed them grains.

Not sure I understand your point. Are you saying carbs in the form of grains are given to cows to make them fat?

DamianJ 08-20-2012 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19136053)
all carbs make you fat...they dont feed pizza and pasta to cows, they feed them grains.

cows eat grass

that's why they have 4 stomachs, to process it

when they are fed surplus corn that the farmers were subsidised to grow, they actually have to wash the dead cow meat with ammonia to kill the poison that is in the meat after forcing them to eat things they are not designed to eat.

according to Food Inc.

Choopa Phil 08-20-2012 02:13 PM

No, grass fed cows eat grass...normal mass produced cows eat corn and grains. grains make cows fat the fastest. Dont you think they have this down to a science. Theyre not going to mass feed cows grass which has such a low caloric value vs corn/grains. Thats why grass fed beef is 2-3x the price. Takes longer and more resources to fatten up the livestock.

MakingItPay 08-20-2012 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19136085)
No, grass fed cows eat grass...normal mass produced cows eat corn and grains. grains make cows fat the fastest. Dont you think they have this down to a science. Theyre not going to mass feed cows grass which has such a low caloric value vs corn/grains. Thats why grass fed beef is 2-3x the price. Takes longer and more resources to fatten up the livestock.

They want them muscular I would think. Fat isn't as fun to eat as a nice lean steak.

Barefootsies 08-20-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 19135979)
BF I have the same problem when it comes to drinking fluids. i have issues drinking water all day, i'm getting better but can NOT drink it in the evenings. I just make some home made iced tea with a bit of sweetener and I also make my own lemonade. Amazing how easy it is to make those. Gets me by anyway, and keeps me out of the diet pops..

Thanks for the hot tip. I keep trying new things to try and find something, beyond bland water in volume, to fill that hole. Thus far, I have not found what I seek. As for drinking late at night, I hear you. I am the same way with water, and too close to bed time. I then have to get up 3 times through the night versus a peaceful sleep.

:disgust

Barefootsies 08-20-2012 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MakingItPay (Post 19136089)
They want them muscular I would think. Fat isn't as fun to eat as a nice lean steak.

Farm Animals Get 80 Percent of Antibiotics Sold in U.S.

MakingItPay 08-20-2012 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 19136097)
Farm Animals Get 80 Percent of Antibiotics Sold in U.S.

Scientists believe about two-thirds of American cattle raised in for slaughter today are injected with hormones to make them grow faster.

They get a little extra growth this way too.

Sly 08-20-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem (Post 19136033)
I don't overeat, I sit at the computer too much and am just naturally fat via genetics and body type. I've clocked my caloric intake at 2000 calories on an average day, hardly over eating. Sure some say it's an under active thyroid, low T, age... whatever, I just know that if I eat a normal 2000 calorie diet I gain 10 pounds a year.

If you are gaining 10 pounds a year at 2000 cal a day, what makes you think 2000 cal a day is right for you? Sounds like you are overeating for what your body needs.

Just because the label says men should get 2000 cal a day does not mean that's what you personally need. I need around 1200-1400 and typically stay in that range without too much trouble. I've done it for so long it's just habit now.

DamianJ 08-20-2012 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19136085)
No, grass fed cows eat grass...normal mass produced cows eat corn and grains. g

Wow. Cool. So what do they do to these "mass produced" cows to change their natural need and design to eat grass? Are three of the stomachs removed? Do they inject something in them to remove their natural diet and change their metabolism?

Or do the mass produced cows all need to have their carcasses washed in ammonia to get rid of all the poison in there making them eat shit they have not evolved to eat naturally?

DamianJ 08-20-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MakingItPay (Post 19136089)
They want them muscular I would think. Fat isn't as fun to eat as a nice lean steak.

Fat is what makes food taste good. See Kobe Beef. (except you can't because all Kobe beef in the US is fake).

PornoMonster 08-20-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19136104)
If you are gaining 10 pounds a year at 2000 cal a day, what makes you think 2000 cal a day is right for you? Sounds like you are overeating for what your body needs.

Just because the label says men should get 2000 cal a day does not mean that's what you personally need. I need around 1200-1400 and typically stay in that range without too much trouble. I've done it for so long it's just habit now.

Correct, depends on body type, age, activity, types of calories. 1,200 is about right for me for GOOD foods.

1,200 calories from french fries I will prob lose muscle mass and gain fat. Just saying.

MakingItPay 08-20-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19136111)
Fat is what makes food taste good. See Kobe Beef. (except you can't because all Kobe beef in the US is fake).

Body composition is important. Too much fat bad. Just the right amount good. But cows aren't humans. If fat cows is what we wanted, we would feed them pure sugar. But why are we talking about cows.

I agree that all carbs have a glycemic response and can make you fat. The lower the response the better. But legumes, nuts taken in non outrageous portions can allow you to still lose fat. While, high glycemic carbs turn your body into a fat building machine. That was the entire concept behind atkins. If you have ever done a low carb diet you know you are losing fat, not just water weight, but carbs do make you hold water. I gain 5 lbs during cheat day. Most of it water. All gone in three days.

Choopa Phil 08-20-2012 03:00 PM

i LOL'd at a nice lean steak....enjoy your dry crappy tasting cut of meat.

Sly 08-20-2012 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19136176)
i LOL'd at a nice lean steak....enjoy your dry crappy tasting cut of meat.

I have a nice ribeye in my refrigerator. :-)

MakingItPay 08-20-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Choopa Phil (Post 19136176)
i LOL'd at a nice lean steak....enjoy your dry crappy tasting cut of meat.

You should try a flank steak. It is delicious and juicy! :thumbsup

Venison steaks are great too! Nobody is fattening them up.

bronco67 08-20-2012 03:45 PM

Diets are bullshit.

MakingItPay 08-20-2012 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19136238)
Diets are bullshit.

If you eat, then you are on a diet. Some make you fat, some don't.

TheSquealer 08-20-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MakingItPay (Post 19136089)
They want them muscular I would think. Fat isn't as fun to eat as a nice lean steak.

The fat makes the meat taste good. The objective is the maximum amount of visceral fat (fat in the muscle) which requires a tuned diet and genetics.

mayabong 08-20-2012 04:14 PM

I recommend the movie "Fat Sick and Nearly Dead" to anyone who is fat.


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