Agreed.

It seems that the problem with a lot of the food today is that, in addition to people making bad choices, that you have sugar/high fructose corn syrup in EVERYTHING.

Meaning, that while it 'may' not be bad in moderation, depending on the source you prefer to believe. The fact that it's in bread, condiments, meat, drinks, etc. makes it hard to cut out. Which leads to your insulin levels being peaked out all day, hence diabetes.

The hardest part for me is drinks. I literally am drinking something all day long.

1. Sobe Water (0 calories, some carbs, via sugar substitute)
2. Diet Coke (0 calories, no clue on carbs, sugar of some sort)
3. Smoothies (calories, carbs, natural sugar)

Most of what I prefer to drink throughout the day has some sort of sugar (whether synthetic, natural, or refined) or substitute. I do not like to drink straight water, I am not a coffee drinker, nor care for tea. Making my choices limited in regards to cutting out the sugary drinks.

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its about the caloric deficit, its so easy to just read the nutrition facts labels and just eat moderate, i dont understand why people get so fat, and workout, at least 30 minute in an elliptical machine per day will keep you fine!, i dont think im doing atkins, i eat carbs every now and then, but reducing carbs you will get serious fatloss and rebound happens to sedentary people

Long term atkins sucks. Do it monday to friday along with a hard heavyweight workout, do carbs after friday's training and then the whole weekend. Do this for 3-4 weeks, then 2 weeks break, another 2 weeks, 1 week break and then 1 last week. After a few weeks or months you can do it again. Eat a lot of fat. Never eat just protein with no fat, it will throw you out of ketosis, if you have to drink a protein drink, mix it with virgin oil, so 20g of protein matches 15-20g of fat. I lose crazy fat doing this, while keeping all my muscle and power. Doing this the first time, you may even gain muscle and lose fat, which is normally impossible without steroids. Last time I lost only 3 lbs of weigt(didn't do it for long, didn't need to) BUT 2 inches of my belly. Power remained the same.

Oh I forgot, stay away from too much citric acid, it may or may not throw you out of ketosis, but why risk it. So pretty much all soda drinks like diet coke, etc. Drink water or water with a splenda sweetener(there are different splenda drinks, strawberry, orange, ice tea, etc). The best food is eggs, bacon, ham and cheese(not all of them). You may eat 1-2 hot dogs a day, too. With no bread, obviously.

I think the 'working out' part is what gets people he rebound.

They change their diet, drop their sugar intake and the body starts burning fat versus sugar. At some point, your body levels off. The person then changes their diet to work in more of their lost favorites, higher calories, but does not compensate by increasing activity level.

It seems to be a lot like a scale where you are balancing out activity level, calories, and carbs with a healthy diet, fruits, and veggies with moderation finalized by realistic portion sizes.

Andrej, you should also add that anyone taking BCAA's to preserve muscle while on a ketogenic diet will kick you out of ketosis as well. L-leucine spikes insulin more than simple carbs

Yeah. It seems the Atkins is big on eggs. I am not a fan of cheese. However, it seems I am in the minority. When you are looking up new recipes whether healthy or not, cheese is in many of them. I cut them out, but I am like.... 'damn. cheese again?!?'.

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I would have thought you needed to stay away from most of the 'sweetened' anything.

Although, depending on what you are drinking, some are worse for you than others.

I tried the low-carb diet plan twice.. works like a charm, until you start eating carbs again - then you will gain all the weight back, and maybe even some more.

It is a very difficult diet to maintain longterm, unless you can live without pizza, ice cream, juices, breads, potatoes, etc..

Fiddy clinically obese dieticians.


If by that you mean "ah, I totally misread what you said, sorry"

Then I agree!

I'm having a great day. Had lunch with mother in law to be and my betrothed. Agreed venue, date, chose a suit and we're now sat here looking at honeymoon destinations.

And the play I'm directing for the Arundel Festival went superbly today too.

Just because I point out that you didn't understand what I wrote, doesn't mean I'm having a bad day man.

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Yep, even vitamin C is not so good. The only thing I maybe shouldn't do, but do anyway, is taking Jack 3D during the diet. I start with 1-2 scoops on monday, when I have still carbs in blood up to 3 scoops for a friday work-out. It gives me crazy energy and I don't even feel like on a diet. I can do the same weights as normally even on the last diet day, which is crazy(and not too healthy, I guess).

I do keto multiple times a year to get lean, never had any issue with my pre-workout taking me out of ketosis. Im also one of those people who can still take in around 100 grams of carbs and still stay in ketosis. Muscle mass FTW

Effective dieting can be summed up thusly:

Eat less. Move more.

Dont even have to eat less.

I have no idea whats the name of the drink I buy, but its small packets for 2 liters of water each. But during the diet, I can easily use the 1 small packet for the whole week and mix 10-15 liters from it and its still comfortably sweet. And the citric acid amount is so small when drinking it on such small amounts, it doesn't matter.

Perhaps the "South Beach" diet for you instead?

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Thats crazy, I never count the carbs too much, but I think I always stay below 20 per day. But yes, when I get into ketosis(mostly late tuesday or wednesday) then its easier to stay in. The hardest part is to get in, thats when I try not to eat any carbs at all.

I also do Nano Vapor as pre-workout sometimes, but during the diet, I'm just too scared to use it, as each scoop is 10g of carbs, thats why I go with Jack. When I take 3 scoops of Jack 3D, my GF always tells me I'm like on drugs, I have so much energy the whole day, it almost scares me. lol

I'll tell you what.... since I have been getting a lot more Vitamin C, it has helped my allergies big time. I used to have to take literally Clariton-D every day. I do not think I've taken a whole package of that, or Zrtec-D, in 2012 to date. The same can be said for last year.

I doubt my allergies are getting better as I age. But I do know I have been making an effort to take more vitamin c as it supposedly can help. I know for me, it has big time. When I have had allergies pop up, a few squirts of spray typically handle it. Before it was drugs, spray, steroids, etc. trying to keep it under control.

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How are you working in all of your fruits and veggies on your 20 carbs + meat?

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You are never hungry during the diet days. If you are, it means you don't eat enough fat. Fat brings a lot of energy. This is not a diet to eat less, I eat maybe the same amount of calories, just no carbs. Not sure if its 100% atkins, its a little adjusted not to lose muscle.

I'm always reading that during the diet, the brain doesn't work properly until it gets used to no sugar, which can take 1-3 weeks, but I had never a problem with that. Actually I don't see any difference when it comes to thinking or using my brain for work at all.

Andrej, you might find it that you function better while in ketosis, i do. Have you ever used coconut oil?

Maybe, but all diets are very hard to stick with, regardless of which you choose...

http://www.southbeach-diet-plan.com/food_list.html

Nope, is it worth to try? I always mix virgin oil to my protein drinks.

I think the problem is that people just look at a diet as a short term fix, and do not start changing their food and eating patterns. If you read a lot of health books, and what not, you'll find they all paraphrase something about the "lifestyle change" versus a diet.

That is ultimately the only way you can maintain.

Definitely worth it. It adds great flavor and tastes really good to cook your eggs in believe it or not.

Thanks for the tip, I will look for it.

My guess is that would apply more so to those who having been on a sugar high 12-18 hours of the day for the past decade versus someone doing a level of healthy eating, which is sounds like you do.

Biggest mistake is to over think your diet, you'll slip up, lose motivation, it's back to square one. unless you're a bodybuilder keep it simple.

No grains no added sugar, move/lift/pull more, the weight will drop off you.

Maybe, but I don't eat that healthy, I simply don't eat too much at a time. I eat pizza and hamburgers like everyone else, but I never eat the whole pizza, I eat a few slices and then if I still feel like eating it, another few slices 2-3 hours later. Also when I eat a hamburger, I leave the french fries alone, etc. I never eat too much to be full, instead I eat 5-7 times a day.

I like this guy! :thumbsup

Isnt it amazing how complicated people turn weight loss into? Like as if there was some holy grail or magic thing you need to do. And people think we eat like robots on top of it.

Make sure it's virgin coconut oil, not the other kind made with copra.

Portion control.

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I went low carb 12 years ago and it was of my best decisions ever. I lost 40 pounds and have kept most of it off. Also, i don't have the wild energy ups and downs that result from insulin levels spiking and crashing.

Perhaps the best thing about it (aside from not being a fatso): the standard western diet is a perfect recipe for type-2 diabetes due to it wearing out your pancreas. I'll skipping that one, thanks.

Well, weight loss is only ONE piece of the health balance pie.

People can lose weight working out, doing manual labor, and eating complete garbage.

:2 cents:

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also, Dr Drew provided the true key to weight loss free of charge. "Eat less, excercise more"
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I remember when this load of bullshit came out shortly after his death. Considering his diet runs completely counter to the official story of a healthy diet, i wasn't surprised to one last-gasp attempt to discredit him.

You that nutritional pyramid (or whatever it's called now) that we've always heard about in the US? Guess who decides what goes into that. You guessed it, the Big Food industry.

As always, follow the money.

I just like good food too much to stop eating it. I rather make up for it in the gym. :thumbsup

I have no idea what you are talking about but the best diet is: only eat when you are hungry.