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mineistaken · 08-07-2012, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v4 media

Because Spain's got a shitload more beds and go for cheap tourists, Italy try to keep the scum out, that's why its nice.

In Europe, only London and Paris have got more hotel rooms than Benidorm.

Are you saying hotel prices are regulated by Italian government in some way? Maybe some super hight taxes so that hotel owners should keep their prices high in order to turn profit?
Otherwise I can not see why some guy who owns hotels in Spain couldn't open same hotels in Italy and keep the prices close to those that are in Spain.

bronco67 · 08-07-2012, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70

My Italian experience ...

So, I will try giving some cold facts, no offensive conclusions or
wow positive feedback, but facts only - just some real experience
I am currently having in Italy.

1. Entering the country and driving long distance without any real
pit stop station was a little nervous, you'd have to drive watching
a beautiful scenery while thinking if a gas station would appear
any time soon.

2. Since I have entered to Italy from Austria I was on roaming and was
waiting to get to the WiFi area to check emails, surf a little, navigate
google map and stuff. Well, i'd better be prepared that they dont have
any wifi on those Autogrill food stations, no ATM and no money exchange
at all.

3. The streets are real narrow and hotel parking lot can be tiny.
Cars get parked in 2 or 3 rows. So be prepared they would ask for your
car key at the hotel to move it here and there letting others going out or in.

4. A hair dryer is a mysterious thing to operate, first it needs a special
switcher to be on ( one of 3 in front of the bathoom door, fun is it's not
obvious which button would work ), then you'd have to switch a button on
the wall near the hair dryer On, and finally you can use the thing.

5. The room has a central air conditioning system that is easy to operate, but
at times you can hear music coming off the vent channel in case someone plays it
loud in their room below or upstairs.

6. I didn't know but Italy has a different electric socket system, so you'd need
a converter, imagine I have arrived iphone battery nearly dead and wanted to go
online on my PC - that's where I figured out it wont last long. Actually, internet
speed itself is rather ok then good, it gets stalled frequently.

7. Forget your dollars, they dont want it. Banks work only till 1 pm, i was unable to
find any money exchange office on the street, found 3 bank branches with 2 working ATMs - Unicredit and Banko Ri Rimini.

8. So I went to try buying a prepaid SIM card for mobile internet then. Firstly they
would ask you for your passport even if its a prepaid, you's have to buy their modem
even if you have one, SIM cards in Italy are blocked or even built in it seems, I was told my modem won't work with their SIM. And the minimum prepaid time is 3 months, comes to EUR99.

9. Here in Rimini, it seems like a 'Uzhnoe Butovo' - kinda a Southern Moscow - Russians are everywhere.

10. At some point everything is nominated in EURO and even McDonalds food is more expensive, at some point I must say you'd feel screwed by prices in EURO.

11. After 3 days I have become to a conclusion that this country means chill and relax at it's perfect, seems like no one is working, no one is offering you a better service, no one is competing for the client, they just go the beach and eat pizza all night long, since daily it's so damn hot even Italians prefer to relax.

12, It's definitely hot and you'd sweat all day long, especially on arrival, so you'd need
a spair change frequently. Or a laundry done once in 2-3 days. So, before I got the laundry room access key I spent 2 days figuring out how tos about it, apparently there is just one machine in the hotel that can be used by anyone. So then I went there and set for 10 minutes waiting when its done, took someones stuff out ( nobody showed up ) and put mine in for EUR3 a cycle. Next day i tried to find a couple of t-shirts to fit me but their shops are so messy and brutally unorganized i prefered to stick to my 3 shirts and a laundromat

13. The sea is amazing. Wide, long beach, very warm water you could stay in all day long.

you use a hair dryer?

Sid70 · 08-07-2012, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67

you use a hair dryer?

I have 2 answers for you. Rude and semi rude, like your sarcastic question.

1. Are you gay to ask?

2. You dont follow the discussion and ask dumb questions.

My wife does.

v4 media · 08-07-2012, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buff

4. Too many girls have never heard of rhinoplasty

Good. Too many fake women about.

v4 media · 08-07-2012, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Are you saying hotel prices are regulated by Italian government in some way? Maybe some super hight taxes so that hotel owners should keep their prices high in order to turn profit?
Otherwise I can not see why some guy who owns hotels in Spain couldn't open same hotels in Italy and keep the prices close to those that are in Spain.

Because Spain gets 20 million scum tourists, The hotels make money because of volume.
Massive concrete blocks that have killed the coast.

Italy gets 2 million but they spend the same amount of $$ in smaller hotels.. What would you prefer?

Michael O · 08-07-2012, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70

My Italian experience ...

So, I will try giving some cold facts, no offensive conclusions or
wow positive feedback, but facts only - just some real experience
I am currently having in Italy.

1. Entering the country and driving long distance without any real
pit stop station was a little nervous, you'd have to drive watching
a beautiful scenery while thinking if a gas station would appear
any time soon.

2. Since I have entered to Italy from Austria I was on roaming and was
waiting to get to the WiFi area to check emails, surf a little, navigate
google map and stuff. Well, i'd better be prepared that they dont have
any wifi on those Autogrill food stations, no ATM and no money exchange
at all.

3. The streets are real narrow and hotel parking lot can be tiny.
Cars get parked in 2 or 3 rows. So be prepared they would ask for your
car key at the hotel to move it here and there letting others going out or in.

4. A hair dryer is a mysterious thing to operate, first it needs a special
switcher to be on ( one of 3 in front of the bathoom door, fun is it's not
obvious which button would work ), then you'd have to switch a button on
the wall near the hair dryer On, and finally you can use the thing.

5. The room has a central air conditioning system that is easy to operate, but
at times you can hear music coming off the vent channel in case someone plays it
loud in their room below or upstairs.

6. I didn't know but Italy has a different electric socket system, so you'd need
a converter, imagine I have arrived iphone battery nearly dead and wanted to go
online on my PC - that's where I figured out it wont last long. Actually, internet
speed itself is rather ok then good, it gets stalled frequently.

7. Forget your dollars, they dont want it. Banks work only till 1 pm, i was unable to
find any money exchange office on the street, found 3 bank branches with 2 working ATMs - Unicredit and Banko Ri Rimini.

8. So I went to try buying a prepaid SIM card for mobile internet then. Firstly they
would ask you for your passport even if its a prepaid, you's have to buy their modem
even if you have one, SIM cards in Italy are blocked or even built in it seems, I was told my modem won't work with their SIM. And the minimum prepaid time is 3 months, comes to EUR99.

9. Here in Rimini, it seems like a 'Uzhnoe Butovo' - kinda a Southern Moscow - Russians are everywhere.

10. At some point everything is nominated in EURO and even McDonalds food is more expensive, at some point I must say you'd feel screwed by prices in EURO.

11. After 3 days I have become to a conclusion that this country means chill and relax at it's perfect, seems like no one is working, no one is offering you a better service, no one is competing for the client, they just go the beach and eat pizza all night long, since daily it's so damn hot even Italians prefer to relax.

12, It's definitely hot and you'd sweat all day long, especially on arrival, so you'd need
a spair change frequently. Or a laundry done once in 2-3 days. So, before I got the laundry room access key I spent 2 days figuring out how tos about it, apparently there is just one machine in the hotel that can be used by anyone. So then I went there and set for 10 minutes waiting when its done, took someones stuff out ( nobody showed up ) and put mine in for EUR3 a cycle. Next day i tried to find a couple of t-shirts to fit me but their shops are so messy and brutally unorganized i prefered to stick to my 3 shirts and a laundromat

13. The sea is amazing. Wide, long beach, very warm water you could stay in all day long.

1. Research before you go.

2. See #1

3. Happens when you go to a country that been around a long time before B.C.

4. I'll just skip this one.

5. Shit happens

6. See #1 I have a thingy that works all over the world cost me less than $10, see #1

7. Italy's national currency is Euros how many places in USA, Japan or GB would accept Euros?

8. For the ID part a lot of countries require this the rest is BS. there are 4 (I believe) GSM different frequencies so that might have been an issue.

9. Skipping this one.

10. See #7

11. Thats why Italy is 3rd in line after Greece and Spain to have issues.

12. see #9

13. Enjoy

Honestly, research a little before you go and it will save you all the small headaches. Europe is not the US and in 99.999% of the places you go they will not accept USD

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After writing this and reading a bit more of the thread I realized your are European so it comes to:
1. You should have done your reasearch.

If you had been from the Americas or Asia I could have understood at least some of your issues.

mineistaken · 08-07-2012, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v4 media

Because Spain gets 20 million scum tourists, The hotels make money because of volume.
Massive concrete blocks that have killed the coast.

Italy gets 2 million but they spend the same amount of $$ in smaller hotels.. What would you prefer?

First I do not believe 2 million people spend as much as 20 million people. Hotel prices are twice, not 10 times more expensive.

Second, you do not get my point. My point is:

Same level hotels in Spain cost 30eur and in Italy it cost 60eur.
So any smart investor would go and build same hotel in Italy and charge 50eur. That would be cheaper than all the rest that charge 60eur. And it would turn way more profit than same hotel in Spain that charges 30Eur.
Lets say operating cost is 25Eur and room cost is 30eur in Spain =5 eur profit per room.
So in Italy it would be 25eur cost and 50eur room price = 25 eur profit per room. Ok lets say in Italy operating cost would be higher, 30eur per room, still it would leave 20eur per room profit.

So my question is how come nobody is building hotels in Italy that would charge less than average hotel in Italy and would still make more profit than same hotel built in Spain?

ps: I checked that Spain gets 56 million tourists and Italy gets 46. Did you take out 20 million poorest Spain tourists and compared with 2 million richest Italy's tourists? In that case yeah they might spend 10 times more, but whats the point of that? You can do similar data vica versa.

mineistaken · 08-07-2012, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

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After writing this and reading a bit more of the thread I realized your are European so it comes to:
1. You should have done your reasearch.

If you had been from the Americas or Asia I could have understood at least some of your issues.

I was wondering about that too. At first i thought he was ignorant american who was surprised that something (like mcdodanlds) is more expensive in Europe, and suprised that dollars is not acceptable currency. But then he said he was living and visited many other European countries. Its strange

adultmobile · 08-07-2012, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70

My Italian experience ...
11. After 3 days I have become to a conclusion that this country means chill and relax at it's perfect, seems like no one is working, no one is offering you a better service, no one is competing for the client, they just go the beach and eat pizza all night long, since daily it's so damn hot even Italians prefer to relax.

Someone work seriously in Italy too... but they are hidden in factories of Ferrari, Lamborghini and Ducati so you don't see them in Rimini beaches really. You been in a place where foreigners are to be ripped off as possible - especially with Euro currency that is confusing foreigners, we have taxi drivers asking 100 eur instead of 10 to dumb-looking japanese, or places asking 10 eur for coffee or 1000 for dinner, see this scams in tv satirical news every day. Also in public offices and some bigger private ones you will see clerks talk each other of gossip, and bored to serve the guys in line, like if you are disturbing them - an issue of Italy it is that it is impossible to fire anyone, even if lazy like this, so why they should care

nyllover · 08-07-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

So my question is how come nobody is building hotels in Italy that would charge less than average hotel in Italy and would still make more profit than same hotel built in Spain?

I'll give you two reasons:

- Taxes
- Burocracy

It's hell on earh opening ANY form of new business in Italy. Tons of paperwork to do, tons of offices to visit, tons of taxes to pay even to start the business. And regarding hotels...taxes, again, is the main issue why room prices are so high. It's difficult to make a living owning a hotel here in Italy (i worked for a webagency specialized in hotels).

Sid70 · 08-07-2012, 03:16 PM

Today I posted in my facebook that:

So, finally, when you go with the flow you would adjust and might call this whole Italian thing a lifestyle.

But later on i decided to book my hotels for return trip - motherfucking internet was so slow booking.com was loading like 5 minutes to confirm.

Fuck it, i like the sea, i like some pizza, but i'm not, definitely not fond of Italian customer attitude.

And stop fucking suggesting doing a research, ive been to MANY countries without sending Sherlock before I go and it just went smooth. WiFi means it should work not get stalled, fucking customer request means fucking Smile and damn answer ... isnt it what you require from me when i do motherfucking banners?

Sid70 · 08-07-2012, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken

At first i thought he was ignorant american who was surprised that something (like mcdodanlds) is more expensive in Europe

Sid70 · 08-07-2012, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyllover

I'll give you two reasons:

- Taxes
- Burocracy

Italian reality.

http://www.heritage.org/index/visual...ly&src=ranking

Sid70 · 08-07-2012, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O

7. Italy's national currency is Euros how many places in USA, Japan or GB would accept Euros?

Well, since the majority of your comments didnt make any sense i have to focus on this one. Do you think I am nuts or what? They dont have street exchanges here, their fucking banks open when normally people go to the beach and when they are back for lunch about 1-2 pm.
Then nada - they are closed.

mineistaken · 08-07-2012, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyllover

I'll give you two reasons:

- Taxes
- Burocracy

It's hell on earh opening ANY form of new business in Italy. Tons of paperwork to do, tons of offices to visit, tons of taxes to pay even to start the business. And regarding hotels...taxes, again, is the main issue why room prices are so high. It's difficult to make a living owning a hotel here in Italy (i worked for a webagency specialized in hotels).

I am familiar with burocracy. But I would like to hear specific taxes that makes rooms so oexpensive. I know a little about hotel industry and so far speaking of European countries I know that some countries has lower VAT for hotel industry (to support tourism). So for example regular VAT is 20% and hotels pay something like 8-10%. So that would explain 10% increase in room prices. Also I know some countries has "head" tax like 0.50eur or 1eur per room. But I can not imagine what taxes compose 50% or 100% more expensive rooms. Could you tell me exact taxes that are extra taxes compared to what taxes spanish hotel owners pay?

HandballJim · 08-07-2012, 08:43 PM

I'm Italian and visited Italy over 10 years ago, I stayed in someones house a half hour up a mountain an hour out of Naples. It was kind of a rough experience...

Italy by far has the most natural beauty I have ever seen, and if you visit peoples homes they will prepare a delicious 3 course meal for you.

But coming from a place like NYC, Italy seemed backwards. It was hard to find stores that were open late and had fully stocked grocery shelves. I also noticed that people work conveniently at their own schedules. They had small hot water tanks so got used to cold showers, and no one spoke English and I felt bored pretty quick.

Japan had more of the lifestyle I am used to, since I like having stores open 24 hours.

bDok · 08-07-2012, 11:50 PM

I was just in europe. The converter I had worked for Paris, Florence, Venice, and Ibiza. The only different converter I used was while in London.

SPP · 08-07-2012, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70

My Italian experience ...

So, I will try giving some cold facts, no offensive conclusions or
wow positive feedback, but facts only - just some real experience
I am currently having in Italy.

1. Entering the country and driving long distance without any real
pit stop station was a little nervous, you'd have to drive watching
a beautiful scenery while thinking if a gas station would appear
any time soon.

2. Since I have entered to Italy from Austria I was on roaming and was
waiting to get to the WiFi area to check emails, surf a little, navigate
google map and stuff. Well, i'd better be prepared that they dont have
any wifi on those Autogrill food stations, no ATM and no money exchange
at all.

3. The streets are real narrow and hotel parking lot can be tiny.
Cars get parked in 2 or 3 rows. So be prepared they would ask for your
car key at the hotel to move it here and there letting others going out or in.

4. A hair dryer is a mysterious thing to operate, first it needs a special
switcher to be on ( one of 3 in front of the bathoom door, fun is it's not
obvious which button would work ), then you'd have to switch a button on
the wall near the hair dryer On, and finally you can use the thing.

5. The room has a central air conditioning system that is easy to operate, but
at times you can hear music coming off the vent channel in case someone plays it
loud in their room below or upstairs.

6. I didn't know but Italy has a different electric socket system, so you'd need
a converter, imagine I have arrived iphone battery nearly dead and wanted to go
online on my PC - that's where I figured out it wont last long. Actually, internet
speed itself is rather ok then good, it gets stalled frequently.

7. Forget your dollars, they dont want it. Banks work only till 1 pm, i was unable to
find any money exchange office on the street, found 3 bank branches with 2 working ATMs - Unicredit and Banko Ri Rimini.

8. So I went to try buying a prepaid SIM card for mobile internet then. Firstly they
would ask you for your passport even if its a prepaid, you's have to buy their modem
even if you have one, SIM cards in Italy are blocked or even built in it seems, I was told my modem won't work with their SIM. And the minimum prepaid time is 3 months, comes to EUR99.

9. Here in Rimini, it seems like a 'Uzhnoe Butovo' - kinda a Southern Moscow - Russians are everywhere.

10. At some point everything is nominated in EURO and even McDonalds food is more expensive, at some point I must say you'd feel screwed by prices in EURO.

11. After 3 days I have become to a conclusion that this country means chill and relax at it's perfect, seems like no one is working, no one is offering you a better service, no one is competing for the client, they just go the beach and eat pizza all night long, since daily it's so damn hot even Italians prefer to relax.

12, It's definitely hot and you'd sweat all day long, especially on arrival, so you'd need
a spair change frequently. Or a laundry done once in 2-3 days. So, before I got the laundry room access key I spent 2 days figuring out how tos about it, apparently there is just one machine in the hotel that can be used by anyone. So then I went there and set for 10 minutes waiting when its done, took someones stuff out ( nobody showed up ) and put mine in for EUR3 a cycle. Next day i tried to find a couple of t-shirts to fit me but their shops are so messy and brutally unorganized i prefered to stick to my 3 shirts and a laundromat

13. The sea is amazing. Wide, long beach, very warm water you could stay in all day long.

the north is crazy, I hate Rimini and such a places

you have to go a tiny bit down under Fano, Ancona or more south and it's fucking lovely there, no russians, no cheap turists... everything BETTER !!!

bhcash · 08-08-2012, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v4 media

Good. Too many fake women about.

Axzar · 08-08-2012, 12:43 AM

Who the hell uses a hair dryer anymore?

calvinawe · 08-08-2012, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

At times they use euro sockets but mostly its like this:

I'm not saying I was expecting liras but that pricing in EURO is higher then in USD for the same shit.

the Denmark socket looks overly happy

nyllover · 08-08-2012, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken

I am familiar with burocracy. But I would like to hear specific taxes that makes rooms so oexpensive. I know a little about hotel industry and so far speaking of European countries I know that some countries has lower VAT for hotel industry (to support tourism). So for example regular VAT is 20% and hotels pay something like 8-10%. So that would explain 10% increase in room prices. Also I know some countries has "head" tax like 0.50eur or 1eur per room. But I can not imagine what taxes compose 50% or 100% more expensive rooms. Could you tell me exact taxes that are extra taxes compared to what taxes spanish hotel owners pay?

Well i'm not THAT prepared on this

But don't forget other kind of costs too. If, in example, our cost for public water is higher, that's another reason to add.
I believe Italy is just TOO expensive for any kind of business these days, and most of this cost is burocracy and taxes.

nyllover · 08-08-2012, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Italian reality.

http://www.heritage.org/index/visual...ly&src=ranking

Cool site...even if it doesn't say which colour is a country or another...but...why would you compare Italy with Russia?

And anyway... did you know we are in 2012? The way you don't plan a trip is like people in the 60s used to plan holidays...good luck for your next one.

Sid70 · 08-08-2012, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPP

the north is crazy, I hate Rimini and such a places

you have to go a tiny bit down under Fano, Ancona or more south and it's fucking lovely there, no russians, no cheap turists... everything BETTER !!!

I agree, i was heading to Alba Adriatica or Pescara... but even Italians say this year is super hot, so i had to stop driving at Rimini

Sid70 · 08-08-2012, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyllover

Cool site...even if it doesn't say which colour is a country or another...but...why would you compare Italy with Russia?

And anyway... did you know we are in 2012? The way you don't plan a trip is like people in the 60s used to plan holidays...good luck for your next one.

My reason comparing was that most Russian/Ukrainian politics love Italy , and my concern is its because of corruption level - similar way of making dirty money.

Sid70 · 08-08-2012, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandballJim

I'm Italian and visited Italy over 10 years ago, I stayed in someones house a half hour up a mountain an hour out of Naples. It was kind of a rough experience...

Italy by far has the most natural beauty I have ever seen, and if you visit peoples homes they will prepare a delicious 3 course meal for you.

But coming from a place like NYC, Italy seemed backwards. It was hard to find stores that were open late and had fully stocked grocery shelves. I also noticed that people work conveniently at their own schedules. They had small hot water tanks so got used to cold showers, and no one spoke English and I felt bored pretty quick.

Japan had more of the lifestyle I am used to, since I like having stores open 24 hours.

I'd go to Manhattan beach in my lovely Brooklyn, mate, but I am the one holding a US visa, family wouldnt be able to go.

SpicyM · 08-08-2012, 09:13 AM

160e / night? I hope its not for just one person.

I dont like the beach at all and the sea looks messy. I would rather go to Croatia. You could take a ship from Ancona to Hvar and stay there. Much nicer beaches.

Sid70 · 08-08-2012, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

160e / night? I hope its not for just one person.

I dont like the beach at all and the sea looks messy. I would rather go to Croatia. You could take a ship from Ancona to Hvar and stay there. Much nicer beaches.

A 1 bedroom apartment with kitchenette.
Nah, man, I am traveling with kids.

In fact, looks like none here did it at all.

DatingFactory · 08-08-2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

And people - can anyone recommend me a beach town in Italy with decent nightlife?
It looks like its either Riminy or other towns that are too small to have good nightlife.
maybe something similar to Portugals Algarve (Albufeira etc)?

Rimini has awesome nightlife some of the best clubs are in that area.

Rimini, Riccione, Gabbice.

http://www.baiaimperiale.net/?utm_so...ign=2011-07-21

DatingFactory · 08-08-2012, 01:10 PM

One thing i got to tell you Sid...

In Italy... and you go to Mc Donald's?????

Where did you go to eat Pizza? Papa Johns?

nikki99 · 08-08-2012, 01:12 PM

hey I was in Rimini exactly 1 month ago, fucked a Romanian slut from the principal street, very cheap and good

ohhh and all the girls look like supermodels, the girls from italy and Russia, Imppresive

DatingFactory · 08-08-2012, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatingFactory

Rimini has awesome nightlife some of the best clubs are in that area.

Rimini, Riccione, Gabbice.

http://www.baiaimperiale.net/?utm_so...ign=2011-07-21

Sid70 · 08-08-2012, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatingFactory

One thing i got to tell you Sid...

In Italy... and you go to Mc Donald's?????

Where did you go to eat Pizza? Papa Johns?

Kids mate. Kids like it.

Sid70 · 08-08-2012, 02:11 PM

Apparently, after adjusting to local life pace, tasting local food, spending time on the beach Im kinda not wanting to go back home LOL ...

nyllover · 08-10-2012, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid70

Apparently, after adjusting to local life pace, tasting local food, spending time on the beach Im kinda not wanting to go back home LOL ...

What? LOL

By the way...Russian politics used to love Italy when that mutherfucker of Berlusconi was prime minister...now he's not (and i sincerely hope he will retire for good)...so we didn't see Putin around since Berlusconi left :D

nico-t · 08-10-2012, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandballJim

I'm Italian and visited Italy over 10 years ago, I stayed in someones house a half hour up a mountain an hour out of Naples. It was kind of a rough experience...

Italy by far has the most natural beauty I have ever seen, and if you visit peoples homes they will prepare a delicious 3 course meal for you.

But coming from a place like NYC, Italy seemed backwards. It was hard to find stores that were open late and had fully stocked grocery shelves. I also noticed that people work conveniently at their own schedules. They had small hot water tanks so got used to cold showers, and no one spoke English and I felt bored pretty quick.

Japan had more of the lifestyle I am used to, since I like having stores open 24 hours.

that's hardly an 'italian' experience, it's a 'backwards village in italy' experience. Any backwards village in any country has the cons you are listing here.

Triple-A · 08-10-2012, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Most comfortable for me is Poland.
I also like UK midlands excluding the cost of living.
And I like East Coast USA.

But I would prefer Canada, Halifax.

The UK Midlands? WTF???
I can't take you seriously anymore.

Enjoy the view at East Midlands Parkway station

lazycash · 08-10-2012, 04:00 AM

Guys please stop hassling sid over the hair dryer. There is nothing wrong with his new hair style, it just need some extra help to dry.

HBKKH · 08-10-2012, 09:24 AM

pricey hotels swiss takes the cake.

Sid70 · 08-10-2012, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple-A

The UK Midlands? WTF???
I can't take you seriously anymore.

Enjoy the view at East Midlands Parkway station

Well, I mean Nottingham itself specifically. I went by the train near this station on my way back to London.

Ah, and eat your shit yourself.

Sid70 · 08-10-2012, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyllover

What? LOL

By the way...Russian politics used to love Italy when that mutherfucker of Berlusconi was prime minister...now he's not (and i sincerely hope he will retire for good)...so we didn't see Putin around since Berlusconi left :D

Thats true, cosanostra + putlerizm = new Italian order

nyllover · 08-21-2012, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Thats true, cosanostra + putlerizm = new Italian order

You forgot to add that we all eat Pizza and play Mandolino.... congrats on your italian knowledge

2012 · 08-21-2012, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Guys please stop hassling sid over the hair dryer. There is nothing wrong with his new hair style, it just need some extra help to dry.

so you don't like people with afro's

DamianJ · 08-21-2012, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 2012

so you don't like people with afro's

afro's what?

Sid70 · 08-21-2012, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyllover

You forgot to add that we all eat Pizza and play Mandolino.... congrats on your italian knowledge

Well, I think eating pizza is fine, i do the same. What I mean that globalization didn't play well for Italy. IMHO.

DatingFactory · 08-21-2012, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

Well, I think eating pizza is fine, i do the same. What I mean that globalization didn't play well for Italy. IMHO.

You are right Sid.

Italy has a cancer and it's called "Italians".

Sid70 · 08-21-2012, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DatingFactory

You are right Sid.

Italy has a cancer and it's called "Italians".

I'm not following, if its sarcastic then i dont get it.

Shotsie · 08-21-2012, 10:13 AM

Shoulda went to the Mezzogiorno

Shotsie · 08-21-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by nyllover

You forgot to add that we all eat Pizza and play Mandolino.... congrats on your italian knowledge

That's only Terroni, right?

red-xxx · 08-21-2012, 10:58 AM

I'll stick with Tuscany and Umbria .... ;)

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