Nick...
 

Can I make it clear we have at no stage this year, or last for a matter been in charge of billing... all billing was handled by Media Revenue... if you have a dispute with them then you really need to speak with them.

Sorry not trying to deflect the situation... but we are not a big company, and are not in a position to pay people any money owing to them from Media Revenue, no matter how much I wish we was...

They were also the company receiving the support emails... I'm sorry your emails to them fell on deaf ears... :( Trust me we were often ignored as well...

We have now taken the program back fully, and look to have all the intergration done by 1st August, hopefully some of you will support us and prove to Media Revenue the program really did have potential if they had made the effort... We will switch up the percentage once things are in place to reward those who are standing by us :thumbsup

OK, sounds fair

Do you plan to keep the same url's for links? I'm too lazy to bring them down if you start counting hits/sales again in August?

Exchanged morals for money now you have neither.

Hey
 

Speaking to Nats/CCBill I believe there will be no need to change links... but I obviously want to clarify that 100%... Our tech guy will post when he has had confirmation...

We are keen to get this absoulutly right for every one concerned :thumbsup

And L-Pink thanks for your input, you are presuming I had morals to start with... and furthermore that we made money, you are drastically wrong on both accounts :winkwink:

Hey...
 

Not sure if our girlies are quite big enough for you guys... but I will drop ya a mail :thumbsup

Thanks for the support :)

Stating the very obvious but MR really are a special breed of scum, eh?

I stopped at this cop-out. Then again it's fuck all to do with me, and I'm just in this thread killing time while waiting for a script to finish uploading. Carry on.

Hey
 

I like your AVATAR, I used to love that show... :thumbsup

You guys get all upset whenever anything to do with banging cards/shady x-sells (same thing) competes for airtime with your whack-a-mole.
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Whatever. I don't have "shady cross sales" or "bang cards," and there is no "you guys," so go fuck yourself, trollio.

Too bad, sites look good too - I'll push you on some sites when you get back on your feet. Good luck getting back on track!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

but still, you knew what shady company you want to deal with, it was not like poor steve do not do business with them, but like what the fuck are you ill on brain? and you still did it ... so i dont understand all that ass licking in this thread ... you are no victim man! :2 cents:

Hire Tam as your affiliate manager and you'll be all set.

Maybe you should think of changing the name of your program.

Call it... Pure Totty !













Mathieu

Hey Lucas...
 

Hey Lucas at no point did I say we were a victim, I am gutted things didn't work out... but not looking for sympathy... We made a decision in life, it turned out to be a bad one...

Dont expect every one to forgive us... dont expect every one to promote us... just laying it on the table for people to make their own mind up on

Great Call...
 

I love that name... great idea, will see if GFY can change my nick :thumbsup

You do business with them (affiliate links on 6bot). Why can't he?

:2 cents: :thumbsup

Lesson learned the hard way / good luck.

not aware of any links from mr, i dont even have accounts there, all banned. maybe some old links that i am keeping just to do not fuck with google. no support from me, at least as far i know :)

You knew what you were getting yourself into.

Links added

Nite All...
 

I am off to bed, gone 1am in the UK and I have a 7 am start tomorrow... Thanks for all the input, no matter what side of the fence you came down on...

I respect everyone's opinion on this, and I will underline I am in no way trying to play the victim card, has as been stated we knew what we were getting into and it's a lesson learned...

For those willing to work with us once this is all cleared up, then I look forward to developing those business relationships... I am sure they can be mutially beneficial. For those of you that think I am a dick then I understand... maybe one day we can have a beer and change your mind...

Nighty Nite... I will check back when I return from my hectic day tomorrow... that will be about 2 pm UK time so I am not ignoring anyone...

Much Love ! :kisskiss

Everyone makes mistakes, not the end of the world. Best of luck to you.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. after years of hearing nothing but bad shit about you......you are actually a fat retarded dick head, somebody who seems to have a perceived authority in this business light years ahead of the reality. You may be an OK photographer but you have ZERO internet savvy, no clue about websites or traffic. If you want to bring up the model that died in the car you were in when her drug crazed BF drove it into a house we can go there. I am sick of hearing your bleating, you can fuck off or deal with me.

That's about the best post you could have made given the situation

He mentions it in his post: Terrence (thurbs)

WTF?

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I didnt like that comment either. Though I kinda think it was intended a little differently than we took, it still sounds shitty.

Everyone makes bad biz decisions.. its how you respond to them that shows your character. Best of luck .

I bet none of your sites are ATVOD compliant either ?

He deserves some credit in my book for the sincerity and humility. It's easy to talk about morals and ethics when its not your bills that aren't getting paid. Sounds like he learned from it. No point in "I told you so's"

I don't know what to say. All I can do is shake my fucking head in disbelief :helpme

He explained how it meant it and he is right:

"and in most industrys, and most big companies, the morals are not always a front runner ahead of cold hard profit."

Good luck man.

uh.. wtf?

Steve is a nice guy, very self deprecating - who wants to believe there's some magic pill in this industry that will make him make the big money. TrafficGigolos and Media Revenue were the magic beans.

The next content shooter who tells me they are doing great by partnering up with an affiliate program will be the FIRST content shooter who actually is. They never work out. The ones I do know of that are moderately successful, they are partnerships with small affiliate programs where the owner of the program does a lot of the work themselves.

Steve, you're the Ralph Kramden of porn. You want to run before you walk and have been that way for the years i've been aware of you - instead of launching these multi site programs you should be trying to produce and run one site, putting all the work into one site. One quality site, whether it's a solo girl site or multi model or fetish site.

I don't know Steve aside from his posts here..but Mutt, that is an absolutely brilliant analogy of sooooo many people who get into internet marketing. I see it all the time in mainstream as well.

People just looking for the magic pixie dust that turns $1 into $1,000,000 overnight. A different analogy would be trying to hit a walk off grand slam on the first pitch before learning how to hit a few singles.