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Old 07-26-2012, 06:50 AM   #1
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We are fucked

the drought is stretching over the whole country


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Global Warming is a hoax. Don't worry about it..
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well long time ago they showed films of this. all the trees will die and the wind will be violent.
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Yeah, things are moving along pretty quickly now. I just read that Greenland melted the other day. I live in Florida so I will let you know when the water gets up around my knees.
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Rapid Ice Melt in Greenland Baffles Scientists

WASHINGTON?Nearly all of Greenland's massive ice sheet suddenly started melting a bit this month, a freak event that surprised scientists.

Even Greenland's coldest and highest place, Summit station, showed melting. Ice core records show that last happened in 1889 and occurs about once every 150 years.

Three satellites show what NASA calls unprecedented melting of the ice sheet that blankets the island, starting on July 8 and lasting four days. Most of the thick ice remains. While some ice usually melts during the summer, what was unusual was that the melting happened in a flash and over a widespread area.

"You literally had this wave of warm air wash over the Greenland ice sheet and melt it," NASA ice scientist Tom Wagner said Tuesday.

The ice melt area went from 40% of the ice sheet to 97% % in four days, according to NASA. Until now, the most extensive melt seen by satellites in the past three decades was about 55%.

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I had violent wind, does that count? Maybe we can ship you some of our rain form the UK, fucking miserable, and we'll lose the Olympics, another great UK summer
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im hoping this is just the cycle and it will go back to normal. we'll see
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They are predicting this will affect food prices by about 3% - we are so fucked! Beef prices will soar a massive 5% (so a pound of beef will go from $2.50 a pound to $2.63). Oh My God, how will we make it!!!!

And Global warming has nothing to do with it. La Nino is what caused the mild winter and this extremely hot summer.

Lastly, keep in mind, that the majority of the crop producing land is not affected by this drought at all.
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If anyone has been keeping up with space . com and the solar flares, there has been ALOT of activity going on with the sun the last 2 months. It's actually pretty scary to thing that that big ball of fire could ACTUALLY explode....But does one actually believe that or do you just go about your day as if nothing around the world and universe is not going on.

I've for one have been keeping a close eye on things pretty closely, call me a science freak or whatnot but for me it's pretty damn interesting.
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WASHINGTON?Nearly all of Greenland's massive ice sheet suddenly started melting a bit this month, a freak event that surprised scientists.

Even Greenland's coldest and highest place, Summit station, showed melting. Ice core records show that last happened in 1889 and occurs about once every 150 years.

Three satellites show what NASA calls unprecedented melting of the ice sheet that blankets the island, starting on July 8 and lasting four days. Most of the thick ice remains. While some ice usually melts during the summer, what was unusual was that the melting happened in a flash and over a widespread area.

"You literally had this wave of warm air wash over the Greenland ice sheet and melt it," NASA ice scientist Tom Wagner said Tuesday.

The ice melt area went from 40% of the ice sheet to 97% % in four days, according to NASA. Until now, the most extensive melt seen by satellites in the past three decades was about 55%.

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Yea, but only 97% of it melted. No big deal. Ice is for suckas anyway. If they wanted ice in Greenland they would have called it Iceland. Now it's green. #winning

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Pigshit. Will never happen in God's country. That story is a lie.
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They are predicting this will affect food prices by about 3% - we are so fucked! Beef prices will soar a massive 5% (so a pound of beef will go from $2.50 a pound to $2.63). Oh My God, how will we make it!!!!

And Global warming has nothing to do with it. La Nino is what caused the mild winter and this extremely hot summer.

Lastly, keep in mind, that the majority of the crop producing land is not affected by this drought at all.
thats just the start wait until they slaughter most of the cattle because they cant feed them.
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What I don't understand is.... Why isn't the US building massive desalination plants (used to make salt water / sea water so we can use it as drinking water) up north on the Atlantic and Pacific, and build huge canals to carry this water down to the south?

Don't tell me it cannot be done - There are entire countries who live on desalination plants, and we have the California Aqueduct which carries water down from Sacramento down to Southern California.

The expense would massive but I bet you it would create tens of thousands of jobs...
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This past winter there was record low snowfall of only 50.6 inches (normal avg. 123.8) and now it's hardly rained.

This whole year has been rough on all types of crops. It got too hot in early spring, causing blooms to come out early only to be killed off by weeks of freezing weather. Apple orchards and others got boned big time.
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What I don't understand is.... Why isn't the US building massive desalination plants (used to make salt water / sea water so we can use it as drinking water) up north on the Atlantic and Pacific, and build huge canals to carry this water down to the south?

Don't tell me it cannot be done - There are entire countries who live on desalination plants, and we have the California Aqueduct which carries water down from Sacramento down to Southern California.

The expense would massive but I bet you it would create tens of thousands of jobs...
I'll take a stab at it. Because that proposal would take decades and most politicians try to approve things that can be started and finished within their own terms of office.
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What I don't understand is.... Why isn't the US building massive desalination plants (used to make salt water / sea water so we can use it as drinking water) up north on the Atlantic and Pacific, and build huge canals to carry this water down to the south?

Don't tell me it cannot be done - There are entire countries who live on desalination plants, and we have the California Aqueduct which carries water down from Sacramento down to Southern California.

The expense would massive but I bet you it would create tens of thousands of jobs...
The USA has the same problem most other governments have, and that is they do not prepare for such events, even though the odds of a lot of bad shit happening are very high. While a drought is hitting the USA, it's monsoon season here in Asia, and while every single year some of the countries over here get decimated by massive flooding, it seems the governments are still always unprepared to deal with it.

You see how they handle natural disasters, it's usually a disaster. Most other nations are the same. I think it's safe to say that those in the government either don't care about the people, or suffer from the normalcy bias like the majority of their citizens do.

Meanwhile, preppers who are often ridiculed by the masses store food and drill their own water wells. Go figure.
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I've for one have been keeping a close eye on things pretty closely, call me a science freak or whatnot but for me it's pretty damn interesting.

You're a science freak and you think the sun is going to explode, alrighty then. It does not have the mass to go nova and will eventually turn into a red dwarf, in about 5 billion years.
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We're in the middle of a drought and there's never been so much rain.
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its more of a climate change instead of global warming. Here in NL we've had week after week rain, all day long. Last couple of years we didn't have a normal summer anymore, just like now.
When it rained all day, it was about 15 C, that's around 60 F.
The rain stopped a couple of days ago and now it's almost 30 C (85 F). We are not used to that!
That's almost a double in temperature. It seems to skip the normal summer temperature of ~22 C we usually have, it just jumps from one extreme to another.
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its more of a climate change instead of global warming. Here in NL we've had week after week rain, all day long. Last couple of years we didn't have a normal summer anymore, just like now.
When it rained all day, it was about 15 C, that's around 60 F.
The rain stopped a couple of days ago and now it's almost 30 C (85 F). We are not used to that!
That's almost a double in temperature. It seems to skip the normal summer temperature of ~22 C we usually have, it just jumps from one extreme to another.
thats the first stage extreme changes
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This past winter there was record low snowfall of only 50.6 inches (normal avg. 123.8) and now it's hardly rained.

This whole year has been rough on all types of crops. It got too hot in early spring, causing blooms to come out early only to be killed off by weeks of freezing weather. Apple orchards and others got boned big time.
Yeah, Im an hour north of TO. I have 5 apple trees, only one of them was untouched by the frost. Strawberry season, was non-existent this year. For our horses, hay prices have doubled. Its gonna be a rough year for sure. Our well (shallow dug) normally doesn't have a problem, and 2 days ago, for the first time, I heard slurping. Thank goodness we finally got 2 days of rain. But its been almost a month since we've had anything besides the nominal 10 minute sprinkle.
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Its a money thing. Why spend money when they can rescue and relocate and take things cheaper after a storm.
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They've been preachin' that crap for years. It's always Arizona peeps that bring this shit up too lol

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Yeah, Im an hour north of TO. I have 5 apple trees, only one of them was untouched by the frost. Strawberry season, was non-existent this year. For our horses, hay prices have doubled. Its gonna be a rough year for sure. Our well (shallow dug) normally doesn't have a problem, and 2 days ago, for the first time, I heard slurping. Thank goodness we finally got 2 days of rain. But its been almost a month since we've had anything besides the nominal 10 minute sprinkle.
i miss well water.
we just dug ours deeper, put another concrete piece on top...go down and fill up buckets of mud...the weight will push the concrete down
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That map isn't correct, I know South East Texas isn't in drought as we've had over 30 inches of rain just in last 2weeks. That might be from last year.
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They've been preachin' that crap for years. It's always Arizona peeps that bring this shit up too lol

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yeah well your about to feel the pinch anything that has to do with corn. and your farmers are slaughtering most of their cattle.
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If anyone has been keeping up with space . com and the solar flares, there has been ALOT of activity going on with the sun the last 2 months. It's actually pretty scary to thing that that big ball of fire could ACTUALLY explode....But does one actually believe that or do you just go about your day as if nothing around the world and universe is not going on.

I've for one have been keeping a close eye on things pretty closely, call me a science freak or whatnot but for me it's pretty damn interesting.
if you were a science freak you'd already know that the sun has been pretty constant for the past 3 billion years or so and so has this planet more or less..

if your looking for something to be scared of try lightning, at least there is a chance something significant can happen in your lifetime with that.

ps solar flares are normal sun behavior, nothing new.
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If anyone has been keeping up with space . com and the solar flares, there has been ALOT of activity going on with the sun the last 2 months. It's actually pretty scary to thing that that big ball of fire could ACTUALLY explode....But does one actually believe that or do you just go about your day as if nothing around the world and universe is not going on.

I've for one have been keeping a close eye on things pretty closely, call me a science freak or whatnot but for me it's pretty damn interesting.
If you mean go supernova, then it's never going to happen because our sun lacks the mass. Instead, it will nova - meaning that it will expand several times it's current size before collapsing back in upon itself. As it expands it will exert less gravitational pull, so it is possible that the Earth will drift out in a larger orbit and not be engulfed, though that is a possibility. However, that is all moot as it isn't going to happen for another 5 billion years (so, we're about halfway there when you consider that the Earth was formed about 4.5 billion years ago), and as the sun's thermal output is rising at about 10% every one billion years in another billion years life won't be able to exist on this planet anyway.

In the meantime, however, we might be subject to particularly rough solar flare and CME activity. While there is some speculation that it was similar events in the past that has had numerous effects on the moon (radioactive surface, melting rocks, creating a 'glaze' on the surface, etc), the moon does not have the benefit of a magnetic field as does the Earth, and it is that field that will protect us from even the worst flare from being a life-threatening event. Instead, what we will have to contend with is a possible catastrophic failure of modern communications and our power grid, from which it could possibly take a decade to fully recover.

I'm a science freak, too.
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ah yes, but never seen at this intensity, not that we have a big record to compare it with.

Note to everyone in here, The Sun is warming up, which is part of its regular cycle, in return, EVERY planet in our solar system has been warming up along with us.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:28 AM   #36
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That map isn't correct, I know South East Texas isn't in drought as we've had over 30 inches of rain just in last 2weeks. That might be from last year.
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:28 AM   #37
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You're a science freak and you think the sun is going to explode, alrighty then. It does not have the mass to go nova and will eventually turn into a red dwarf, in about 5 billion years.
Yep yep...I keep an eye on science and the solar flares...and yep I have seen the estimated 5 billion years theory also
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Old 07-26-2012, 08:29 AM   #38
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That map isn't correct, I know South East Texas isn't in drought as we've had over 30 inches of rain just in last 2weeks. That might be from last year.
Good to hear, the farmers done there could use the rain
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If you mean go supernova, then it's never going to happen because our sun lacks the mass. Instead, it will nova - meaning that it will expand several times it's current size before collapsing back in upon itself. As it expands it will exert less gravitational pull, so it is possible that the Earth will not be engulfed, though that is a possibility. However, that is all moot as it isn't going to happen for another 5 billion years (so, we're about halfway there when you consider that the Earth was formed about 4.5 billion years ago), and as the sun's thermal output is rising at about 10% every one billion years in another billion years life won't be able to exist on this planet anyway.

In the meantime, however, we might be subject to particularly rough solar flare and CME activity. While there is some speculation that it was similar events in the past that has had numerous effects on the moon (radioactive surface, melting rocks, creating a 'glaze' on the surface, etc), the moon does not have the benefit of a magnetic field as does the Earth, and it is that field that will protect us from even the worst flare from being a life-threatening event. Instead, what we will have to contend with is a possible catastrophic failure of modern communications and our power grid, that could possibly take a decade to fully recover from.

I'm a science freak, too.

Better get your ham radios up then I love those things.. my neighbors must think we're crazy as tall as our antennas are
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if you were a science freak you'd already know that the sun has been pretty constant for the past 3 billion years or so and so has this planet more or less..

if your looking for something to be scared of try lightning, at least there is a chance something significant can happen in your lifetime with that.

ps solar flares are normal sun behavior, nothing new.
Yea Tis' true, I'll be long gone before anything happens to this earth anyways but it is quite fascinating
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What I don't understand is.... Why isn't the US building massive desalination plants (used to make salt water / sea water so we can use it as drinking water) up north on the Atlantic and Pacific, and build huge canals to carry this water down to the south?

Don't tell me it cannot be done - There are entire countries who live on desalination plants, and we have the California Aqueduct which carries water down from Sacramento down to Southern California.

The expense would massive but I bet you it would create tens of thousands of jobs...
Because no American wants to be tax to death.
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Our well (shallow dug) normally doesn't have a problem, and 2 days ago, for the first time, I heard slurping.
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we just dug ours deeper, put another concrete piece on top...go down and fill up buckets of mud...the weight will push the concrete down
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Yea Tis' true, I'll be long gone before anything happens to this earth anyways but it is quite fascinating

Whats even more fascinating is the half a billion earth like planets just in our galaxy, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies. If you count moons there could be over a trillion habitable places in the universe.
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yeah well your about to feel the pinch anything that has to do with corn. and your farmers are slaughtering most of their cattle.
I'll pay who cares, thats what raises are for and making more $$ each year.

Kids, taxes , gas and food prices always go up. Not something to bitch about IMO

I went to Disneyland a couple weeks ago. Prices are much higher than 10 years ago! Who cares its all fun w/ the kids right? Some people put too much emphasis on how much things cost. bunch of cheap asses lol
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Whats even more fascinating is the half a billion earth like planets just in our galaxy, and the hundreds of billions of galaxies. If you count moons there could be over a trillion habitable places in the universe.
Did you see where they found an Alien Solar System that looks alot like our own? Alot of discovers the last 2 months, even with the Higgs Boson Particle that their calling the "god particle"...pretty fascinating to say the least
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I'll pay who cares, thats what raises are for and making more $$ each year.

Kids, taxes , gas and food prices always go up. Not something to bitch about IMO

I went to Disneyland a couple weeks ago. Prices are much higher than 10 years ago! Who cares its all fun w/ the kids right? Some people put too much emphasis on how much things cost. bunch of cheap asses lol
must be a nice world over there you get a raise when prices go up
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How deep is it?
Its approx 16 feet. Its done this only once before, the soil where we are is quite sandy, and at the one side of the property, there is a section that stays wet all year, so we must have some decent springs on the property. We use a lot of water though. Veggie Garden, Livestock, Kids pool, and of course normal household use. Fortunately the well charges pretty good after going easy on it for a few hours.
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Fortunately we are way ahead for rain this year in Austin!
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Fortunately we are way ahead for rain this year in Austin!
fiddy dried up corn holes

well your going to pay the farmers the farmers thank you

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...insurance.html

anyone here micro farm?
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