So when someone hacked your server and you have his IP... - GoFuckYourself.com

MaDalton · 07-16-2012, 01:42 PM

...and the IP is pointing to a server and a domain and through the Whois I now have the name and address...

how big is the chance that the server owner has no clue cause his server was hacked as well?

because no one would be that stupid and have himself tracked that easily, right?

seeandsee · 07-16-2012, 01:43 PM

Probably not, but still maybe is some dickhead on other side :D

XSAXS · 07-16-2012, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

because no one would be that stupid and have himself tracked that easily, right?

...wrong.

MaDalton · 07-16-2012, 02:05 PM

i wonder if should send him an email...

Freaky_Akula · 07-16-2012, 02:13 PM

Buy Paul Markham's ebook on "How to backtrace baddies on the internet"

MaDalton · 07-16-2012, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freaky_Akula

Buy Paul Markham's ebook on "How to backtrace baddies on the internet"

thanks but i'm still busy with his first ebook about how to shoot porn so i finally can make $3000 per set

SZNY · 07-16-2012, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

...and the IP is pointing to a server and a domain and through the Whois I now have the name and address...

how big is the chance that the server owner has no clue cause his server was hacked as well?

because no one would be that stupid and have himself tracked that easily, right?

Analyse the log reports on your server or ask your provider. For sure you can find some usable info. The question is indeed if you were really hacked or if it's somebody is using a bot that abused the computer / IP from others that hacked you.

What kind of hack was it?

MaDalton · 07-16-2012, 03:22 PM

installed a trojan on my shop

SZNY · 07-16-2012, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

installed a trojan on my shop

ouch, by malware?

fuzebox · 07-16-2012, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

how big is the chance that the server owner has no clue cause his server was hacked as well?

I think it's a pretty good chance.

Tjeezers · 07-16-2012, 05:12 PM

I probably do not have to tell you that filestube ( . ) com is using your domain name in a file package they offer for download right.... Nah never mind, did not mean to be off topic

ps good luck fighting the bitch that is fucking your day. Should hang them all high and make them suffer.

faxxaff · 07-16-2012, 05:24 PM

Good hackers cover their asses. They either erase logs or change entries to point footprints elsewhere. Happened to me before. I was hacked and all logs were erased. I hated that hacker.

ladida · 07-16-2012, 06:16 PM

Rofl, yea, im sure its the server owner

VenusBlogger · 07-16-2012, 10:47 PM

During the last few years I noticed something similar in some sites, and after tracking them down, it was always some fucker gaining access to some NAIVE guy VPS or Dedicated and atacking from there.

The end was obvious, I blocked the fucker and the naive guy thanked me for warning him about a fucker gaining access to his server.

Unfortunately, hackers are not that stupid and know their stuff very well.

BFT3K · 07-16-2012, 10:49 PM

Were you running Plesk on your box?...

http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/news/?...pe=allchandate

k0nr4d · 07-16-2012, 11:20 PM

Most likely the other box was hacked and was used to attack your machine. Email the owner and tell him that his shit got pwned.

kazymjir · 07-16-2012, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

because no one would be that stupid and have himself tracked that easily, right?

This can be a script kiddie that found exploit on the Net and fired it up on your server from his own machine.

v4 media · 07-17-2012, 02:30 AM

Could the guy who owns the server, even if he was hacked, be liable for your losses?

Not saying go after him, just wondering?

kazymjir · 07-17-2012, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faxxaff

Good hackers cover their asses. They either erase logs or change entries to point footprints elsewhere. Happened to me before. I was hacked and all logs were erased. I hated that hacker.

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger

(...)
Unfortunately, hackers are not that stupid and know their stuff very well.

You guys are talking about crackers, not hackers.
http://catb.org/jargon/html/C/cracker.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by v4 media

Could the guy who owns the server, even if he was hacked, be liable for your losses?

Not saying go after him, just wondering?

If somebody steals yours car and the guy makes an accident on the road, are you liable for the damage he made?

v4 media · 07-17-2012, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazymjir

If somebody steals yours car and the guy makes an accident on the road, are you liable for the damage he made?

If you own a fertilizer company and out of neglect enough was stolen to blow up a building, could you be done? problably.

kazymjir · 07-17-2012, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v4 media

If you own a fertilizer company and out of neglect enough was stolen to blow up a building, could you be done? problably.

If you are commander of nuclear station and out of neglect enough a rocket was stolen to blow up a city, could you be done? probably

kazymjir · 07-17-2012, 03:27 AM

If you are owner of a teddybear and out of neglect enough was stolen and used to strangle someone, could you be done? probably too

v4 media · 07-17-2012, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazymjir

If you are owner of a teddybear and out of neglect enough was stolen and used to strangle someone, could you be done? probably too

Hilarious. Maybe consider a career change as a comedian.

kazymjir · 07-17-2012, 03:43 AM

Thanks, I will consider.

If somebody hacks your server, that is your problem. If somebody steals your car, that is your problem.
Breaking to a web server compared to robbing a fertilizer company... that is hilarious thing.

v4 media · 07-17-2012, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kazymjir

Thanks, I will consider.

If somebody hacks your server, that is your problem. If somebody steals your car, that is your problem.
Breaking to a web server compared to robbing a fertilizer company... that is hilarious thing.

Not really.
Something you own not locked down used for illegal purpose.

kazymjir · 07-17-2012, 03:53 AM

I will bring again my first example. If somebody stole your car, that is your fault that he later caused an accident?

Also, "not locking" differs from "not updating software".
Imagine yourself on the police station when the policeman says that you can forget about insurance, because you have not upgraded your car alarm to the latest available version.

livexxx · 07-17-2012, 04:10 AM

put a htaccess redirect for that IP to a page that says server down, they'll move onto someone else then

kazymjir · 07-17-2012, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by livexxx

put a htaccess redirect for that IP to a page that says server down, they'll move onto someone else then

Better block him in iptables. htaccess will lock only access to web server, not the whole machine.

MaDalton · 07-17-2012, 05:09 AM

my host has fixed everything and blocked the IP - thanks to Techiemedia!

07-16-2012, 01:42 PM	#1
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,828	So when someone hacked your server and you have his IP... ...and the IP is pointing to a server and a domain and through the Whois I now have the name and address... how big is the chance that the server owner has no clue cause his server was hacked as well? because no one would be that stupid and have himself tracked that easily, right? __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

07-16-2012, 01:43 PM	#2
seeandsee Check SIG! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe (Skype: gojkoas) Posts: 50,945	Probably not, but still maybe is some dickhead on other side :D __________________ BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year Contact here

07-16-2012, 02:05 PM	#4
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,828	i wonder if should send him an email... __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

07-16-2012, 02:13 PM	#5
Freaky_Akula Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,670	Buy Paul Markham's ebook on "How to backtrace baddies on the internet" __________________

07-16-2012, 03:22 PM	#8
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,828	installed a trojan on my shop __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

07-16-2012, 05:12 PM	#11
Tjeezers Webmaster Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: BP4L - NL/RO Posts: 16,572	I probably do not have to tell you that filestube ( . ) com is using your domain name in a file package they offer for download right.... Nah never mind, did not mean to be off topic ps good luck fighting the bitch that is fucking your day. Should hang them all high and make them suffer. __________________ Enroll in the SWAG Affiliate Asian Live Cam Program and get 9 free quality linkbacks from my network! Wanna see how old school I am? Look at this! All my Cam Review Sites are here!

07-16-2012, 05:24 PM	#12
faxxaff Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Marina Hemingway Posts: 2,134	Good hackers cover their asses. They either erase logs or change entries to point footprints elsewhere. Happened to me before. I was hacked and all logs were erased. I hated that hacker. __________________ Asian Babes

07-16-2012, 06:16 PM	#13
ladida Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,167	Rofl, yea, im sure its the server owner __________________ agentGFY at gmail.com

07-16-2012, 10:47 PM	#14
VenusBlogger So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,540	During the last few years I noticed something similar in some sites, and after tracking them down, it was always some fucker gaining access to some NAIVE guy VPS or Dedicated and atacking from there. The end was obvious, I blocked the fucker and the naive guy thanked me for warning him about a fucker gaining access to his server. Unfortunately, hackers are not that stupid and know their stuff very well.

07-16-2012, 10:49 PM	#15
BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	Were you running Plesk on your box?... http://www.macworld.co.uk/mac/news/?...pe=allchandate

07-16-2012, 11:20 PM	#16
k0nr4d Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 9,229	Most likely the other box was hacked and was used to attack your machine. Email the owner and tell him that his shit got pwned. __________________ Mechanical Bunny Media Mechbunny Tube Script \| Mechbunny Webcam Aggregator Script \| Custom Web Development

07-17-2012, 02:30 AM	#18
v4 media Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 2,934	Could the guy who owns the server, even if he was hacked, be liable for your losses? Not saying go after him, just wondering?

07-17-2012, 03:27 AM	#22
kazymjir Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 411	If you are owner of a teddybear and out of neglect enough was stolen and used to strangle someone, could you be done? probably too __________________ http://kazymjir.com/

07-17-2012, 03:43 AM	#24
kazymjir Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 411	Thanks, I will consider. If somebody hacks your server, that is your problem. If somebody steals your car, that is your problem. Breaking to a web server compared to robbing a fertilizer company... that is hilarious thing. __________________ http://kazymjir.com/

07-17-2012, 03:53 AM	#26
kazymjir Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 411	I will bring again my first example. If somebody stole your car, that is your fault that he later caused an accident? Also, "not locking" differs from "not updating software". Imagine yourself on the police station when the policeman says that you can forget about insurance, because you have not upgraded your car alarm to the latest available version. __________________ http://kazymjir.com/

07-17-2012, 04:10 AM	#27
livexxx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,201	put a htaccess redirect for that IP to a page that says server down, they'll move onto someone else then __________________ http://www.webcamalerts.com for auto tweets for web cam operators

07-17-2012, 05:09 AM	#29
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,828	my host has fixed everything and blocked the IP - thanks to Techiemedia! __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com