Originally Posted by Rochard

I only see it when I leave the house.

I don't care what any of you think. I walk outside my house and I see someone else's garbage.

Originally Posted by baddog

Pay your fucking bills or STFU; pretty simple.

Originally Posted by baddog

Pay your fucking bills or STFU; pretty simple.

Originally Posted by Failed

You're the worst kind of human being

Originally Posted by baddog

You mean, responsible?

Originally Posted by peterk

If you want to see garbage look in the mirror. Yelling at a young girl and being an asshole neighbor.

Originally Posted by Failed

I mean unsympathetic, ignorant, and a person who has not one care for his fellow man.

Originally Posted by Rochard

He lied to me, he destroyed bushes on my property, removed trees on my property, violated HOA rules, violated city laws, and turned a two car driveway into a commercial parking lot so his renter could run illegally run a business with a dozen employees out of his garage.

Your right, I'm an asshole.

Originally Posted by beerptrol

$836 dollars, damn there must have not been to many bidders.

I'm sympathetic for the elderly who live on a fixed income. If some gov aid/social worker would have taken some time to get involved, they could have found a way to help her out

Originally Posted by baddog

You mean, responsible?

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Are Americans losing their property rights or is this the same as it's always been?

Brutal Gestapo Tactics Are Being Used Against Homeowners All Over America
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/07/...eing-used.html

The other foreclosure crisis: Losing a home over $400 in back taxes
http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/10/real...iens/index.htm

"NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- People are losing their homes over unpaid tax bills that, in some cases, add up to just a few hundred dollars.

Outdated state laws that allow local governments to sell tax liens on delinquent properties to investors in order to more quickly collect on overdue property taxes is sparking a second "foreclosure crisis," a report from the National Consumer Law Center said Tuesday. "

"The report cited a case of an 81-year-old Rhode Island woman who fell behind on a $474 sewer bill. A corporation bought the home in a tax sale for $836.39. The woman was evicted from the home she had lived in for more than 40 years and the corporation resold the place for $85,000, the report said. "

"One elderly Montana woman, who lived alone and had no close family to help her, fell more than $5,000 behind on taxes, the report said. After she failed to respond to letters from the company that bought her home in a tax sale, she was evicted from her Missoula home. As a result, she lost about $150,000 in equity in the property, according to the report."

Originally Posted by 12clicks

How dare Obama and the liberals do this to hard working Americans?

Originally Posted by DWB

While I agree 100% that everyone should be responsible and pay their bills, I also know that people get laid off, fired, sick, in an accident, or any other of things that can happen to people to cause them to fall behind on their bills, many of which is beyond their control, especially the elderly or those living alone without many friends or family.

Fast forward in life and you're 80 years old. You're alone. You keep up on your bills but somehow you made a mistake OR you simply didn't have enough money to pay your SEWAGE bill, due to whatever reason, and you lost your house of 49 years over it. 40 years of being responsible, 40 eyars of doimng everything right, then one slip of $400 causes you to lose everything.

Sorry man, that is just not right. And it can happen to anyone, at any time. There should be restrictions to what can be done in situations like this. It's not like she didn't pay her mortgage payment for several months or a year. She didn't pay her sewer bill.

Originally Posted by peterk

Why should he care for people who don't care for themselves?

Originally Posted by Rochard

How do people not understand this? Don't pay your bills, eventually they come after you. It's not "Brutal Gestapo Tactics"; It's the law.

It's pretty fucking simple. Don't pay your car payment or credit card bill, fall too far behind, they will put a lien on your home.

Is it excessive? Sure does sound like it. But usually there is a lot more involved. It's not like you fall $30 on your HOA and they take your house next month; It's a lenthgy process and if it gets to that point it either means the homeowner is a complete ass or has ignore multiple warnings.

Originally Posted by 12clicks

How dare Obama and the liberals do this to hard working Americans?

Originally Posted by Rochard

How do people not understand this? Don't pay your bills, eventually they come after you. It's not "Brutal Gestapo Tactics"; It's the law.

Originally Posted by Robbie

I personally think it's one of the worst things ever.

You basically NEVER own your home and property.

The govt. can always take it from you for not paying property taxes. So if you are an elderly person living on a fixed income and can't pay your property tax...doesn't matter if you paid off your mortgage 20 years ago and have lived in "your" home all your life. The govt. is going to TAKE it.

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Rochard,

Am I right in thinking that you hated this guy before any of this? i.e. this isn't what you'd do to any random neighbor

Originally Posted by peterk

Aren't you running an illegal home based business to but he hasn't turned you in yet. If he was running a business the asshole neighbor you are would have reported him and then there would have been no need for the additional parking. He very likely has a large family and you just a busy Betsy neighbor.

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Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

Can anyone guess how many bankers responsible for recent finical crisis lost their homes?

Originally Posted by Robbie

I personally think it's one of the worst things ever.

You basically NEVER own your home and property.

The govt. can always take it from you for not paying property taxes. So if you are an elderly person living on a fixed income and can't pay your property tax...doesn't matter if you paid off your mortgage 20 years ago and have lived in "your" home all your life. The govt. is going to TAKE it.

Originally Posted by peterk

if you can't pay your electricity bill the electric company will turn off the service. if you buying a car and stop paying with one month left they will repo it. property tax is a tax that everyone who owns property has to pay for doesn't matter if you have a mortgage or not. if you can't afford to pay the property tax bill then sell your house and rent. seems pretty simple to me, it's called life, you live with in your means.

Originally Posted by Rochard

The homeowner is an Italian man named Tony. I love all things Italian really. He also owns the house behind the rental house. Frankly, he was just one of the neighbors I talked on occasionally when I walked me dog or during one of the little parties our street throws a few times a year. He came over to my house to ask me to sign off on the HOA form and I was all for it; I was all for home improvements.

I didn't know the renter until after he had moved in and was running a business from the garage.

The new renter is nice. Works from home but has zero impact on the community, and I never hear a peep from him. He's just a bit messy.



I think your just being bitter and nasty.

I have a business license, am not breaking any zoning laws, and I have zero impact on the community by working at home.

The prior renter was completely different. At 7am they opened up the garage door and ran it like a commercial business - turned on the radio, had six to eight employees show up, filling up my street with their cars, they had breakfast together, woke us up every morning, and then blocked up the street while they hitched up trailers to small pick up trucks and loaded up up with gear. I never complained about any of this, even though my landscaper could never park his truck and trailer in front of my house, and also that at least once or twice a week I was blocked in and unable to leave my house because of their trucks being loaded. Everyone else on the street was furious about this, being as they are the first house on the street and you must pass his house to get in or out.

The new neighbor works from home, makes a trip down to customs once a week in his big truck to pick up his product, which he then sells online through his website. He's a bit messy, but renters always are. I never hear a peep out of him.

I'm pissed at the homeowner because I like my house and take a small amount of pride in my yard. I used to walk out and it looked nice - trees and bushes. Now I walk outside my house and I see gravel and weeds and wooden pallets and his truck. I used to like my front yard. Now it's ugly.

And what pisses me off the most is that this guy was there for less than a year. This is my "forever home", and for the next twenty years I'll be looking at his electric meter instead of bushes and trees.

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Ok but you should slow down. The electric company for one thing can not turn off service in winter when it's your heat source (at least not here in the northeast). Also, they dont threaten to terminate service unless you're over $100 in unpaid balance forward. Further, before they DO threaten to terminate, they offer you a payment plan which is usually pretty affordable. I've been there so know these things.

Maybe they did this with ALL of those examples too, but it doesn't mention it if so.

Originally Posted by baddog

Why should you not pay property tax just because the home is paid for? The tax is not a sales tax.

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Taxes are not voluntary, just like if a guy robs you with a gun that's not voluntary either

"Oh well he didn't pay and he got shot. That's just the way it is"

Originally Posted by Rochard

The problem is the landlord was trying to please the renter, and both the landlord and the renter could fucking care less about my concerns.

Both houses were model houses for the community and were "over landscaped". When I stepped out of my house I couldn't see the neighbor's house although it's like ten feet away from the property line. It was all trees and bushes, and now I see this...



The gravel is where I legally forced them to remove the pavement. Where the driver's side tires sit are right up against the property line; In order for him to get into his truck he has to walk on my property.

I'm not a dick or anything, but this is just annoying.

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

It's made to seem like they got a bill, didn't pay it, and got kicked out.

I'm sure there's more backstory there. They pretty much always want the money more than they want to take on a property.

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

This is a very dumb statement

Me: "Let's end slavery because it is morally wrong"
You: "Shut up, slavery exists that's just the way it is. Let's discuss real options or start a revolution"

Originally Posted by Sly

I'm not sure where you got any of that, but none of that follows typical protocol.

A $500 sewer bill is probably a year, quite possibly more depending on where she lives. We have a year right there. Then we have liens that need to be applied, that takes time. Then we have all of the other legal crap that would have needed to take place, that takes more time. Then we have the auction, that takes more time.

Originally Posted by baddog

No one is losing their home for being late on property taxes/sewer bill once.

Originally Posted by DWB

However many times she was late... it was $400 something dollars on a sewer bill. Not state taxes, not federal taxes, not property taxes, but a utility bill. How can anyone lose a home over a utility bill?

Originally Posted by DWB

Not paying a utility bill should not lead to the loss of your home. What happens when you don't pay other utilities? They turn them off. They don't take your home. Well, I guess they do now.

Originally Posted by Rochard

So according to you no one needs to pay their utilities ever again. Or any other bill for that matter. Everyone can now just default on all their bills and the worst thing that happens is that your utilities gets turn off.

It doesn't work like that. If you fail to pay your bill, the service gets disconnected. Keep in mind that they don't disconnect you until your three or four months later. Then they move on to the next step, which is collections. Then - and at this point it's been nearly a year since the first late notice - they move on to legal filings, and sue you in court. That's another six month process. At this point the original $400 now includes interest, late fees, additional costs for collection attempts, and now attorney fees.

In the mean time you have your local city government, which provides us with sewage. In my case it's sewage, garbage, and water - All for $80 a month. My local city government is going broke, laying off police officers, firemen, closing down fire stations and police offices, and slashed the medical benefits of the very people who provide me with my sewage, water, and garbage. But in your world it's not important for this person not to pay for their service and then cost the local city government even more expenses...

And then you bitch about how the city is providing less.

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

1 in 7 on food stamps nowadays? Fuck

Originally Posted by MaDalton

you defend property tax but refuse obamacare - you americans are weird sometimes

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Taxation is theft

Do you not understand this?

Originally Posted by DWB

However many times she was late... it was $400 something dollars on a sewer bill. Not state taxes, not federal taxes, not property taxes, but a utility bill. How can anyone lose a home over a utility bill?

That is like losing your home because you are late on your internet bill, even if you are a few months behind. Not paying a utility bill should not lead to the loss of your home. What happens when you don't pay other utilities? They turn them off. They don't take your home. Well, I guess they do now.

Sorry, we know you are old and can't make ends meet right now due to inflation or whatever reason you want to give us that your government legitimately caused, but you're three months late on your phone bill, so we're taking your home.

Today it's $400 behind on a sewer bill. Maybe when you're 80 years old it will be $40 behind on your electric bill. Maybe by the time your son is 80, they will just imprison people for such crimes. This shit is a slippery slope.