Look at it this way, if they went into my house and stole the same content on a hard drive, I would shoot and kill them in my living room and legally get away with it.

Secondly, none of this information currently posted is private. It is 100% all public information. The info gathered on these people would boggle your mind.

Thirdly, don't give a shit either way when it comes to pirates, just like they don't give a shit who they steal from. They are thieving fucks who deserve whatever wrecking ball that is about to come through their life. Gloves are always off when dealing with people like this and everyone in their life is fair game. Don't like it, don't be a pirate. Otherwise, you have to deal with the eventual consequences when you're number is finally called.

What you should be worried about is what wasn't posted here. It's just been foreplay so far.

I'd like to add one thing. On this page of the thread there is what I consider to be a racist image. I don't approve of it, I don't like it, I don't think it's funny and I would prefer images like that were not posted in this thread.

You just shot yourself in the leg with this dumb sentence.

Why AK the gloves are off? let it slide man let it slide.
burn them all.

In which direction should it go?

Qestion is..

Is this a business thread which was great with the amazing work AK's done so far.
Or is it a personal crusade.

since it turned out to be a personal crusade with racist remarks in it and postings of personal images and information and postings of none connected people like family, friends etc etc..., in my opinion this isn't the right direction.

Awwwww, are we going to have a pity party for pirates now?

Yigal, I can't control what other people post. I do not approve of the image, I think it's actually reprehensible.

I also do not believe that the gloves are off in this fight, however everyone has their own opinion and is entitled to it. I have been progressing this issue on a fairly matter of fact basis and have refrained from personal attack. However the information about Kaktuz that I have posted is not what I consider to be personal attack, it's simply outing someone who for too long has been ripping off rights holders and then serving them back traffic generated from stolen content.

Kaktuz is going to find out the error of his ways soon enough, however documenting these matters is important to progress the cause. I personally do not condone anyone being the subject of unwarranted personal attack, I receive enough of it myself. Only today I have received serious threats to my safety, not the first and not the last. It goes with the territory and I will wear that.

I'd like this thread to remain a documentary thread tracking the progress of our work and investigations. I'd like it not to descend into a personal, vitriolic campaign without boundary.

I think your mistaken, your mistaken with me and someone who wants to have a conversation with you.

LOL, you think that posting my name gives you a higher level, in my eyes the fact that you know my name is enough big brotherish for me, and just makes me dislike you more and your actions and ways.

Fact is the minute I've seen my name in your post, I didn't even want to read what you wrote. but keep going with this, you will lose at the end.

How do you know his family is not involved in the business? How do you know everyone posted about is not deeply involved? Why do you even care what happens to them?

See above, the part that I wrote that your mistaken.

I'm sorry, I didn't think your name was a secret here, I was trying to give you a personal reply empathetic to your view which I was actually agreeing with in part.

The thing is you don't decide whats secret and whats not. Anyways I don't care anymore, good luck with your crusade.

:321GFY

I am happy to see this reply from you. You have done an amazing job and as you say it shoudnt descend into a personal vitriolic campaign.

From what I understood above, Eric deleted the photo DWB posted that was showing other people that had probably nothing to do with all this...

Nobody deleted the name or other public info, nor will delete the info you are posting about whois and domains and you documentate the case with facts....

I personally lost plenty of $ with the epassporte case, but i wasnt proud when info of family and kids of mallic were posted and I think its totally wrong to do such things. Simple as that

I'm at one with everything you've espoused above. I don't see the need to drag families, race or anything else into what I would like to remain a documentary thread. I have tried throughout to remain as balanced as possible, providing documentary evidence to every claim made.

Unfortunately for the people who wake up every day and see their latest content being shared on piracy sites or people who have a stake in the piracy business it's easy to get emotional about the issues.

We have a long way to go in this project and it would be a shame to see the thread derailed by off the cuff or unnecessary vitriol. I think it's amazing that it's come this far, almost 4000 posts since June, without descending into a free for all. Hopefully we can keep it on track and focussed on the issue at hand.

This is incorrect, Eric deleted Simon Key's name and photo, who is at the head of this entire operation.

Secondly, how does anyone at AVN know anything about who is involved in what, and who are you guys to make the call of who "probably" has nothing to do with any of this?

DWB the name is written many times in this thread and nobody is deleting it....Photo was and I personally agree with Eric for doing it(I explained above why I think this is the correct thing to do, apart from legal implications). I hope you understand, AK does and I am happy.

Then I'm living in the twilight zone because his NAME was deleted from my post along with his photo.

Yet you left the photo and name of the other pirate. You don't care about the legal implications from him. You don't care about it being the correct thing to do with him. Yet for Simon Key, there are possible legal implications and it was the correct thing to do. Where is the logic in that?

Since you have decided to take this public now... I removed images of family members and kids. The rules are clear to leave family out of this.

This is NOT a debate.

Are you sure?
I purchased traffic from adyea in past, it was israel people but not remember any link with sites of kaktuz.

In planetsuzy I don't see any adyea ads, I would expect to see if was same owner?
Planetsuzy is just full of livejasmin, myfreecams and punishtube/exposedwebcams ads. And link to kaktuz com. Who in turn is full of same ads and no adyea again.

Sorry that YOU made the choice to break the rules and I tried to be nice and send you an email instead of just banning you for posting images of family members and children. If some other information was removed while trying to clean up YOUR bullshit, oh fucking well. We have supports AdultKing in this effort from day one.

For now, I suggest you shut your fucking mouth or I will just go ahead and give you that 3 month vacation that would have saved me this headache.

Please enlighten me and show me what images of "kids" I posted, because there were none. Go back and look for yourself. I didn't post images of "kids" and frankly you should be ashamed of yourself for even implying I posted photos of children on any adult site, because we both know, as everyone does who say the post, that is not true.

Saying I posted photos of children is a lie and you know it, so does everyone else who saw the photo. THERE WERE NO IMAGES OF CHILDREN POSTED! I posted a montage image of Simon Key and that is what you deleted along with his name. And so be it, but don't say I posted images of kids. I don't even know why you would say that.

English please :helpme

You are right the image had no kids, but you mentioned them in the text of your message. That is why the text was removed.

How about we just keep this focused upon the individual that you can 100% say is at fault here, and, as stated, leave family out of this. A broad stroke of well they may be invovled doesn't work here.

Thanks for clearing that up. And I also want to note the names listed were adults. No minors. That's not how I roll.

That is fine. Simon Key is 100% directly involved. He is also listed in AK's post where the proper due diligence was done before posting.

No problem at all, the whole family thing just pushed my buttons.


Yes and that will stay, I have no problem with calling these guys out in anyway shape or form. No problem with you guys calling out their associates or partners in crime. Just, please, leave the innocents out of it.

Stand-up guys.

:sarcasm

We are very keen to start cleaning up what's left of the file locker industry, however to do this we need the support of rights holders. Only by going in to battle with a good number of rights holders being infringed will we be able to knock over the remaining large sites.

We scrupulously use every possible means to impact and disrupt pirates, forcing them into a continual process of moving hosts, payment providers and monetization methods until they run out of options and can no longer operate.

IP Rights Holders can now become represented by us (Copy Control) so we can help you mitigate piracy of your content.

Representation by Copy Control is not a replacement for your current DMCA arrangements, rather it's complimentary to them.

What we do is actively enforce your rights by working with web hosting companies, payment processing companies, banks, card associations, advertising networks and other service providers to have them stop working with the pirates and their sites.

Where organisations are un-cooperative we have a number of legal strategies that we employ to gain compliance.

We also liaise with law enforcement agencies and other government agencies to mitigate piracy on your behalf.

To get your company , brand or content represented by Copy Control we ask that you fill out this simple form.

http://copycontrol.org/get-represented/

once you fill out this form I will send you a copy of our rights-holder representation agreement for you to sign and return back to us.

you can also read about what representation will do for you at

http://copycontrol.org/services/

We work on a cost recovery basis so the fees for representation are quite low and if you can't afford them we'll work with you to come up with a fee which suits your budget. Small rights holders would pay around $500 per year (or $50 per month), Mid sized rights holder companies would pay around $1000 per year (or $100 per month) and large rights holders would pay around $3500 per year or ($350 per month).

This is very expensive and labor intensive work, we need to charge fees to recover the costs of what we are doing.

Representation is non exclusive. Becoming represented by Copy Control should not impact any other relationships you have with DMCA agents, legal services, attorneys or investigators. We are a complimentary service to all of these types of organisations.

If you have any questions about becoming represented by us please email me at members -at- copycontrol.org

The whole thought about picture posting here...

Please remember - the photos are coming from public sites, such as Facebook. The parties in them have zero expectation of privacy when posting the photos there, Myspace, and other sites. They made the choice, in advance, of putting their photos (or that of their wives, friends, criminal associates) out in public.

If they wish to keep their name, and that of their associates, out of a free speech discussion about piracy, my sole suggestion would be to not be a pirate.

A paragraph from a piracy blog I wrote 3 years ago fits here...


"In 1719 the Pirate Blackbeard (Edward Thatch / Teach) was decapitated in a battle with the determined men working with English pirate hunter Lieutenant Robert Maynard. When Maynard, and the crew of his ship "The Adventure", returned to Hampton Roads they had Blackbeard's head still hanging from the bowsprit as a warning to others. Upon docking Maynard presented Blackbeard's head to Governor Spotswood, who had it suspended from a tall pole on the west side of the Hampton River at a place now known as Blackbeard's Point, as a ghoulish admonition to would-be pirates."



Like in 1719, pirates need to be hung in public. Its the anonymous nature of their game that protects them. Take it away and we are much closer to winning a few battles.

We all know the pirates will do whatever it takes to get away with their acts. We, as content owners / producers, have no choice but to fight back with all means we have available.

If it means exposing their names in public - so be it - because we must always remember THEY started this war. THEY are the bad guys. THEY are the ones trying to reach across the Internet and stick their dirty, smelly, fat fingers in the mouth of my children and take their food away.

Some softies in this thread seem to think content owners need to fight, but only very nicely, to protect themselves and their families from pirates. I have more respect for my own family than that and intend to continue "fighting fire with fire" (or a bigger fire).

The pirates have never once asked me if it would affect my ability to feed my children if they steal from me and my business. Does anybody here think I should let my family suffer so the family of the pirate doesn't suffer?

The pirates - and only the pirates - put themselves in the position of having their names listed as jerks, assholes, pirates and criminals. They did so with the full knowledge that their acts violate laws and the risk that places on their own families. THEY made that choice.

Let them - and by extension their families - hang here on GFY, and on any other sites in which they can be hung.


James Grady
d/b/a Jimmy Stephans
40 W. Littleton BL
Littleton, CO. USA 80120
1-877-686-5393

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh AK we have to remember the goyim's role is to serve.

yo ho and a bottle of rum :thumbsup:thumbsup

I have found that the best way to deal with piracy is with a cool head coupled with an uncompromising approach that includes well thought out, strategic measures.

The corporations, agencies and organisations I deal with daily don't care for emotion driven argument, they care about facts and the strength of evidence supporting a case.

While I have no objection to naming names and shaming where appropriate, I see no benefit from being vitriolic or emotional about the issue.

My key objective is to shut down piracy cold.

Since we started this project more than 600 sites have lost one or more forms of payment processing, more than 100 have been wiped from the Internet, several investigations are underway, two prosecutions pending and some civil actions at planning stages.

I post nothing in this thread that doesn't come from cold, considered calculation. This is the best way to be, because when we hit a pirate I wan't them to wonder what hell happened and for it to inflict as much damage to their operation as possible.

That's weird then as you seem to get personally and emotionally involved all the time.
I still think this is a personal crusade.

Over the next few weeks we shall be paying extra attention to prepaid payment methods such as Ukash.

These services present obvious challenges, however we do not believe that payment services like Ukash are immune when it comes to supporting piracy services and sites.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Anything worth doing is worth doing right. And doing it right invariably involves some degree of personal and emotional involvement.

Rather more so when your economic well being is at stake.

Honestly, why does anyone care what the motivation is? The guy is running this day and night, for months, not for profit, and getting results.

I'm glad to see Eric even being a GFY moderator respect the privacy of a person and his family no matter what they guy did. I applaud that.

I'm not really seeing this as a personal crusade, more of a very well paid for attack or an attempt to take whatever resources that person owns under control to continue doing the same thing. This info has appeared on another site weeks ago and AK was never mentioned there.

Hey DWB, I've read your posts and your attitude is shameful and disgusting, God knows what kind of filth you do or film with these "models" from underdeveloped countries famous for heinous sex tourism practices, the one on your avatar looks well not very old at all. Why don't you post up your photo and an address so folks could come visit you?

Adult King finally did what everybody has expected him to, turned this witch hunt into a business. I have to give it to you AK, this is a brilliant scheme. Scare crap out of some file hosts, make some quit, hurt some big ones, make a quick name for yourself and people follow. 3500$ a year for what? What do you mean by representation? Are you a legal professional? Are you some kind of law enforcement? How is your business licensed and where? I'm not a lawyer but I doubt what you do is even legal.

On top of all of this you seem very selective in your work. Any pimple faced kid can take PayPal away from a fresh host started up by another pimple faced kid and I again gotta give it to you for taking it away from Deposit Files but for example Hotfile and Crocko both enjoy PayPal benefits. I'd also would be thrilled to see you try and hurt RapidShare.

Many people here keep asking if you are going against the tubes who sell pirated content left and right and those questions are largely ignored. The graph you posted that shows 1% decrease in piracy is laughable, 1% is within statistical error margin. In other words, despite all the noise you've made and all the hosts you shut down or made their life miserable the actual impact on piracy has been almost 0.

If you just want to use this and this thread as your ad space, why don't you just buy a banner and stop spamming the board.

I'm sorry but I don't see a selfless man acting here, I see a chase for profits, double standards and inconsistencies, you can dismiss my comment out right, but I don't think I'm alone thinking like that even among this community. Whatever you're doing is not a solution to get rid of piracy. I think you just clearing up the field for a bigger player we all don't yet see coming.

Eric removed a photograph that contained images of persons other than the target, however made it quite clear that all of the other information would remain, which it has.

This is a ridiculous claim, you can be sure that we will be working to have payment processing terminated, hosting shut down, domains seized, assets confiscated, persons prosecuted and many other forms of mitigation take place however to suggest we are doing this to continue piracy ourselves is both wrong and ridiculous.

Firstly this is not a witch hunt, this is a anti-piracy campaign chasing down copyright infringers. We wouldn't have to go after anyone if they weren't acting illegally.

Secondly we operate on a cost recovery basis and we are a long way from recovering costs. Copy Control was formed very early on, it was documented publicly, it's been referred to in this and other threads.

We've clearly laid out what we do, however I am glad to repeat it

1. Issue written correspondence to third parties (?Infringers?) who are infringing the Owner?s IP, including but not limited to, DMCA take down notices, infringement notices and/or cease and desist letters;

2. Request that third parties, including without limitation, payment processors, web hosting companies, ISPs, DNS server providers and domain registrars (?Service Providers?), take necessary steps to prevent infringement of the rights embodied in the Owner?s IP, including without limitation shutting down Infringers? websites or merchant facilities on Infringers? websites;

3. Make complaints to and liaise with law enforcement bodies with regard to infringement of the rights embodied in the Owner?s IP;

4. Generally represent the Owner to commercial, non profit and government bodies with respect to the ownership and protection of the Owner?s IP;

5. Undertake other reasonable steps as Copy Control considers necessary to prevent or cease infringement of the rights embodied in the Owner?s IP.

What we do is entirely legal, we have our own legal team, we have forensic accounting services, we comply with the letter of the law. Our representation agreement was formulated by one of the best boutique IP law firms in Australia.

We also have very good established ongoing dialogue with several law enforcement agencies around the world and an excellent working relationship with several payment processing companies.


I'd expect Crocko will not have Paypal much longer. You may have noticed that Rapidshare recently made a substantive change to their operation by limiting public access to files by bandwidth restriction. What you do not see is what is going on behind the scenes that is forcing companies like Rapidshare to re-think their strategy.

Which graph are you talking about ? I haven't posted any graph to show a 1% decrease of piracy. The most recent graphical image I posted showed that tubes do not rank in the top piracy sites as per the Google Transparency Report.

We are currently expanding the scope of our operations, you will see us targeting much more than just file lockers as time goes on. We are working to get rights holders represented right now, as we build representation we will have the ability to go after more forms of piracy.

Nobody is running ads and we do not operate for profit, we also operate for the benefit of the whole community here, so I do not see what your problem is with that ?

What you're saying is laughable, we barely make it from one month to the next, where exactly is the chase for profit ? The first official decision of Copy Control was that if there is an operating surplus it will go back into furthering the anti piracy effort.

It seems to be in the interests of those involved with piracy to smear us. The fact is that nobody has been paid other than the lawyers, accountants and service providers. We have several people who volunteer large amounts of their time into this effort and I for one have worked around the clock pretty much since late June when this started without receiving one cent.

To say that we are clearing the way for a bigger piracy player is ridiculous, it just shows the length to which those opposed to our effort will go to tarnish our work.