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selena 06-06-2012 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunky99 (Post 18990323)
from what i know, there's 2 stages of approval, 1 done by ccbill and then 1 done for visa. the ccbill approval is not that hard to get through, and if you arent in the know about oron.. getting http://oron.com/ submitted to you. would not raise any flags. anyone would approve it no problem.

Well, I figure you'd know as well as anyone, thank you! :)

I have only experienced CCBill as an affiliate. Back in the day, before JaYMan Cash/That One Program was Raven Riley Cash, they used CCBill exclusively. But that was before I went onboard.

It is obviously the VISA approval that I was thinking of. I wasn't aware of it being a two tiered approach.

Though I do think that the post that Robbie copied over from XBiz kind of clarifies that they are aware of what they are processing.

dgraves 06-06-2012 01:36 PM

I've been using CCBill for 7 years now and never thought I'd seen something like this from them.

dgraves 06-06-2012 01:40 PM

A little off topic. How is anyone suppose to know what Oron is? It's a blank page with an upload feature and a page with payment options.

spunky99 06-06-2012 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 18990364)
A little off topic. How is anyone suppose to know what Oron is? It's a blank page with an upload feature and a page with payment options.

exactly.. but this isnt the place to make sense.. this is where you can make crazy ass statements

Radical Bucks 06-06-2012 01:42 PM

Maybe ccbil is in bed with Manwin after all

PornoMonster 06-06-2012 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 18990364)
A little off topic. How is anyone suppose to know what Oron is? It's a blank page with an upload feature and a page with payment options.

Upload + Payment, yep thats all you need to know.

Forest 06-06-2012 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18990289)
You are 100% correct, but terms are terms.

Example, "lolita" is forbidden for all sites in CCbill's terms, not just for smaller accounts. So is beast sex, bloody sex, snuff, and so on.

Forget the piracy issue and DMCAs. If they just followed their own terms, oron would be canned. I've already sent someone at CCbill a list of lolita links along with pissing while having sex and some other nasty things they don't allow, so they are now well aware of what is going on there.

Terms or integrity are all negligible when it comes to money.

Times must be getting tight

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BIGTYMER 06-06-2012 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BNMedia (Post 18990321)
Definitely not banned on google.co.uk

Strange. It's totally banned for me on Google mobile in the US..

Fat Panda 06-06-2012 01:58 PM

no ccbill response? rofl

topnotch, standup guy 06-06-2012 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks (Post 18990367)
Maybe ccbil is in bed with Manwin after all

I was thinking the same thing :(

Or if not that, perhaps this...


Quote:

Originally Posted by Forest (Post 18990374)
Times must be getting tight at ccbill.

Like they were at iBill ???

.

EpicPanda 06-06-2012 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 18990238)
I dont see how CCBill can consider this fight worth it.
CCBill should have the common sense to drop oron and let this die.

Agreed.

I've always been a good client for CCBill. I've been happy with them. I see the CCBill bashing threads, (and you can look back and see) I've never been a part of that – I really like CCBill.

The notion that we should even have to submit or "cc" our takedown notices to CCBill for "proof" like the community did to get Oron's Paypal account killed is insulting. CCBill has eyes and ears here - they already KNOW what Oron is up to, and know their relationship to the pirate boards, and to the overseas filelocker "affiliate/money laundering" racket. And if someone in their sales department didn't know, they're incompetent and should be replaced.

I don't think any of us should forget this issue, or stop *(sigh)* bumping these related threads until they get their hands out of the piracy cookie jar.

If they don't, then for future business my ears are open to any billing processor that wants to take a stand against piracy.

mikesouth 06-06-2012 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 18990364)
A little off topic. How is anyone suppose to know what Oron is? It's a blank page with an upload feature and a page with payment options.


How is anyone supposed toi know what oron is? seriously?

this is an adult webmaster resource board if you are an adult webmaster and you dont know what oron is you are either a moron or you better not quit your day job...maybe both...

Radical Bucks 06-06-2012 02:08 PM

I always wondered how passwords to our sites have always ended up on password share boards so easy hmmm I wonder

CCBILL claims to be hack proof, NOT true or they have just been busted.

selena 06-06-2012 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgraves (Post 18990364)
A little off topic. How is anyone suppose to know what Oron is? It's a blank page with an upload feature and a page with payment options.

If they didn't know, it would take about 2 clicks to find out.

dgraves 06-06-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 18990415)
How is anyone supposed toi know what oron is? seriously?

this is an adult webmaster resource board if you are an adult webmaster and you dont know what oron is you are either a moron or you better not quit your day job...maybe both...

So the average surfer would know what it is? That was my point douchebag.

I just love when pussies like you shit talk on here.

Radical Bucks 06-06-2012 02:16 PM

I am gonna run and get a weeks supply of popcorn. This is gonna get entertaining!

Paul Markham 06-06-2012 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18990028)
Time to send CCBill a few thousand DMCA notices and see if they still think this is a good idea.

:thumbsup QFT

Major (Tom) 06-06-2012 02:37 PM

I remember warren, myself & red walked martina warren back to her room because she had too much to drink. Warren was her husband. Anyway, Mrs ccbill saw us walking back & got our info. No big deal. The next day my little fuckin twit andy, my rep, calls me to "make sure nothing happened" as in "you are pretty hardcore dudes therefore you cannot be in anyway shape or form a gentleman." He was pressured into calling me by the late Ron Cadwell & his wife. I found that to be extremly insulting & basically said fuck you. So you would think a company who is this concerned about their image would be concerned about their image. Fuck you Cadwells. All of you.
ds

Spudstr 06-06-2012 02:41 PM

Quote:

Account Inactive

CCBill LLC
1-888-596-9279
Email address: [email protected]
is what i see under Mastercard now

PMProducoes 06-06-2012 02:47 PM

CCBill & Oron

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Tat2Jr 06-06-2012 02:59 PM

What a slap in our faces. I'm in total shock over this. It's truly shameful and makes me sick.

I've had to waste my time sending Oron thousands of DMCA notices (thank god they actually take mine down). In fact I have 20 or 30 of my videos in my ongoing STOLEN VIDEOS list to send them today.

Mutt 06-06-2012 03:02 PM

The little guys, mom and pop operators of adult sites and their affiliates, made the Caldwell family hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. I'm told Ron is a BILLIONAIRE, possibly the only billionaire ever in the porn industry. This is just a shameless and shameful kick in the nuts to the tens of thousands of us CCBILL clients and affiliates.:(

domainbroker 06-06-2012 03:04 PM

Looks like ccbill has pulled out from oron.

mikesouth 06-06-2012 03:10 PM

I hope thats true.....

diesel 06-06-2012 03:22 PM

I had no doubt that ccbill will work it out and stop billing for ORON. CCbill is the straightest company in adult and the most reliable. Just the fact that they stayed away from aggressive pre-checked cross sales in the past - gives our industry a lot of loyal members nowadays. Lot's of members join only CCbill sites because of that.

Saying that, sometimes we need to wake them up like in this thread, great job guys )

spunky99 06-06-2012 03:56 PM

the real surprise here is how desperate file locker sites are getting now, few years ago they wouldn't have had to try to use ccbill

Klen 06-06-2012 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 18990383)
Strange. It's totally banned for me on Google mobile in the US..

Banned here on all google versions,says:
In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org.

PMProducoes 06-06-2012 04:25 PM

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PMProducoes 06-06-2012 04:33 PM

No answer from CCBill to this thread?


http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...gif?1311943181

Mutt 06-06-2012 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PMProducoes (Post 18990682)
No answer from CCBill to this thread?


http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...gif?1311943181

well if they've cut off business with ORON then there's no reason for them to answer here.

Robbie 06-06-2012 04:51 PM

Doesn't CCBill also process for a bunch of "gf" sites that have no 2257 info as well?

It's awfully frustrating. Especially when Visa & even worse MasterCard are all over honest webmasters for dotting every "i" and crossing every "t". You can't even use the word "force" in a description on your site. Just try it. Write the words "she forced open the bottle of mustard" on your paysite. Master Card's bot will flag it and they will shut down your processing.

But yet...they allow CC Bill to process Oron? What a crock of shit.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 06-06-2012 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18990709)
Doesn't CCBill also process for a bunch of "gf" sites that have no 2257 info as well?

Yes they do as well as for other file sharing/forum sites, so this whole blowup over oron has been pretty strange to me.

Robbie 06-06-2012 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 18990768)
Yes they do as well as for other file sharing/forum sites, so this whole blowup over oron has been pretty strange to me.

Maybe there should be a "blowup" over the rest of that stuff too.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 06-06-2012 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18990773)
Maybe there should be a "blowup" over the rest of that stuff too.

I've always assumed there was a reason it was allowed to continue, but perhaps the events of the last day or so have changed the game.

CamTraffic 06-06-2012 05:37 PM

doing the same shit with http://www.filefactory.com apparently...
even Paypal is doing it...


http://i.imgur.com/AKCPT.png
http://i.imgur.com/AhE3B.png

Robbie 06-06-2012 05:50 PM

Just like whack-a-mole

Those of us who are really in the adult industry are being shit on from every side it seems.

RyuLion 06-06-2012 05:56 PM

I never knew about oron.com before this thread..wow..

RyuLion 06-06-2012 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunky99 (Post 18989911)
since its only mastercard processing im guessing they signed up and got approved without anyone noticing who they were. hopefully ccbill will do the right thing and kill their account

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 18990793)
Just like whack-a-mole

Those of us who are really in the adult industry are being shit on from every side it seems.

Robbbiee!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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