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Old 05-23-2012, 03:30 PM   #51
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"Ohhh from Russia, lets issue you some tickets"
They will probably hold on to him until they are 100% sure he used his last cash to pay tickets
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:40 PM   #52
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Cops like to say things like you must be guilty of something if you are on a certain block at night.

I think they are guilty of something if they don't want a video of them working.

One thing I do not understand is how the NYPD can pat down anybody they want for no reason. Isn't that an illegal search and seizure? Maybe Joe will weigh in on that.
It's a Terry Stop - a brief detention without probable cause based on a reasonable suspicion of crime based on articulable facts. If the cop has articulable facts, and a reasonable fear of danger to himself from weapons, he can do a pat-down of outer garments. This has lead to other cases based on an analogy to the "plain view" doctrine, when the contours of illegal contraband rather than weapons are felt during the pat-down. Read all about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_stop.

In practice, a Terry Stop is understood to end and an arrest requiring probable cause begins in the eyes of many courts, after some one is held for an hour or moved to another location. The general inspection of a car for weapons within reach of a motorist is not the same as a search of the vehicle, and without probable cause, a cop can't legally remove the rear seat, open the trunk, etc.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:52 PM   #53
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I mentioned before how I was shooting photos of a model for one of my sites and recorded the police officers roll up on us. They confiscated my vehicle and saw me recording them and confiscated my cameras as well. Laughed at me when I told them I've been earning my living solely from shooting porn for my websites over the past 2 years. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1066...light=foulfowl



Here's just one of the many other times I was pulled over for DWB and let go. Bottomline is I record everything. I have an attorney handling the first situation and some media has started contacting me. http://foulfowl.net/pulledover1018.wmv
I'd HATE to be pulled over by Detroit PD. I'd probably shit my drawls. Seriously, I heard Detroit PD is not only outnumbered, but act as if they are backed into a corner - even if it's a routine traffic stop. I have a relative from motown who was blasted in the stomach by Detroit officers, several years ago.
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:02 PM   #54
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like these guys do in Ukraine, are you allowed to put a video camera pointed at the cop and openly videotape in America when they pull you over?
Don't know about the USA, but in Russia there is a law which allows to you videotape police. It's the official thing.
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:19 PM   #55
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It amazes me how many American's are ignorant of the constitution and are willing to give up their liberties.(which means freedoms for you dopes)

Of course it is legal to film cops. If they say you can't they are lieing and playing on your fear.

Whatever you can see with your eyes you are able to film.
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Old 05-23-2012, 05:23 PM   #56
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It amazes me how many American's are ignorant of the constitution and are willing to give up their liberties.(which means freedoms for you dopes)

Of course it is legal to film cops. If they say you can't they are lieing and playing on your fear.

Whatever you can see with your eyes you are able to film.
Doesn't have as much to do with "ignorance" as it does with FEAR.

Cops in America will beat you down if you try to stand up to them. They will TAKE your camera, beat your ass, and claim that you "resisted arrest".

That's why the most scary thing I can think of is a cop pulling me over. They truly are unpredictable. I've seen them do crazy shit in Florida (where I'm from) and all the places I've lived since then: Georgia, South Carolina, and Vegas.

This year in Vegas...they are setting a record for cops shooting and killing unarmed civilians.
Matter of fact, some civil groups here begged the U.S. DOJ to come in and investigate the Vegas cops...but Harry Reid and a few other cronies made sure that didn't happen. The local papers couldn't believe that the Feds won't investigate it.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:49 PM   #57
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in the us most police cars are videotaping you.
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