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For me the good porn is where there are the preconditions of the whole sex.
How the whole thing lead to the fuck. The sex may continue 1 minute including the shower or 2 hours - but the interesting thing to me is the idea. Nothing original with US or EU sex movies. The japanese porn for example gives me a lot food to think or fap if you want. Here are some samples. 1. the forecast for weather. - those pretty japanese gurls who are announcing the news and some random guys are splashing their faces in air.... 2. japanese game shows - where married couple comes, the wife should recognize her man among several other guys who shows their cocks from a hole in wall. And she's never sure that the cock she sucked is her husband's. 3. "sport" programs - where naked japanese chicks are playing basketball while there are some dildos, balls in their pussies. The one who "drops" the toy goes out. It's a skill game - for the vaginal muscles. 4. store clerks - sexy girl is selling muffins while at same time a guy is fingering or fucking her /out of client's sight/. The interesting thing is that she has to keep her face calm... 5. Beauty in school uniform - short skirt getting fucked in subway or bus. 6. Movies with plot. Man goes out for work, leaving his wife at home. She's washing the dishes for awhile, then goes to the window and waves at the building in front. There's a guy who probably was staying all the time waiting for her to wave at him. That's the signal for him to come. She's going at bathroom. Taking off her panties and with the telephone shower she washes her pussy. Then she's putting panties on, frantically putting order with her clothes and hair. Then guy comes in. Brief dialogue. The man saying something ( I don't get what, cuz it's japanese) - she responds back with impudence. Bitch Slap, and voila she's submissive. She willingly and by herself is taking off her clothes, just leaving the blouse on. Bends over on the kitchen table and spreads her butt cheeks. Then she turns her head to the guy/ or the camera and gives one of these looks that makes my cock hard. Then comes the sex, which is not so interesting to me, and a cumshot inside. The is putting his clothes on, and goes out. The woman stays on her back on kitchen table, shaking with convulses after the rough fuck, while the semen is pouring out of her vaj. The thing is that there are plates on the table.... The woman continues to wash the dishes with mysteriousness smile on her face. Okay I'm done. Don't hate me. |
personnally, i'm tired to see everywhere blowjob pictures...
I need something new... |
Camera angles. When I have to tilt my head 90 to 180 degrees to watch while fappin'
Wonder what goes thru some of these guys heads, its like a fucking roller coaster. |
take clothes off...oral...2-3 poses...cumshot... I just described 95% of porn...It's like the movie industry was to film remakes of Rambo over and over and over and over and over and over :1orglaugh how the fuck do you expect to keep selling the same thing? :1orglaugh
so what I dislike about porn is that very few talented producers exist....the scene is bursting with mediocrity...people who make a half ass effort at mediocrity...no imagination whatsoever... I also dislike the complete inability of most producers to transfer sexual feelings and "vibes" to the viewer...my theory is that you have to be really good at sex to be able to know how to indeed make and film it...very few people are really good... kink.com nailed it with their SM stuff...people who do not like SM do not understand it...the term "rape" or "consensual rape" as the OP pointed out is false...it really has nothing to do with rape...you would be surprised at how many women enjoy S/M and how angry they get when you refuse to deliver :1orglaugh but It's certainly not everybody's cup of tea... |
The post needed to be made, well done
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Hell I posted a thread like this over 5 years ago now that I think of it. Most producers didn't listen then and I daresay few if any will change their boneheaded ways now. |
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But again: I'm the last one to talk so whatever gets you thru the night....LOL |
Surprised no one mentioned the mountains of colorful unrealistic makeup they wear. No wonder amateur porn is so popular, it's REAL.
And I agree about the money shot scenes, or any scenes for that matter that have majority dick on the screen. I don't want to watch a guy jackoff for 10 minutes until he cums. Pull out and bust out bing bang boom. |
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Big-boob babes in a hot solo or fuck scene that start sucking on their own nipples and looking at the camera. I have rarely been so turned off, made to laugh so suddenly or been driven back by such a retarded looking act.
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when is the last time you had a mindblowing sex experience?
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What needs to happen is whoever is filming the crap that's out these days has to look at things in the eyes of the viewer. Make a porn that YOU would actually watch. Make a porn that would actually turn YOU on.. etc.. Don't just make a porn cause you think "this will make us a lot of money" and forget about what actually goes into it.
It's always the same shit over and over and they wonder why sales in the porn industry are so low for the most part. Sure, tubes and other illegal sites may be dipping into your profits, but the biggest problem is the shitty porn that they put out and expect people to spend their $ on. you want people to actually sped $? Start making a product that's worth it. Why would someone want to pay for your crappy porn when they can just go download one for free that's exactly the same as what you just released for the exception of the "actors" (I used this term very loosely) on the movie? porn, the way it's been for a very long time, is basically like if the mainstream movie industry decided 20 years ago that all they will do from now on is copy some random movie that was total crap and remake it, but use different actors. While they do that they are expecting to make a fortune from it.. That is insanity. Repeating the same shit over and over expecting different results.. Isn't the way business is now enough proof that things need to change? of course, no one will do this because they think they know everything. They are "porn gods".. Sure, if that's what you want to believe go right ahead, but expect to fail. |
Agree with most except the facials. That's a big seller, people love that shit and there's an obvious domination/submission psychological element to that.
Number one I probably agree with the most. I always assumed part of watching porn was the fantasy of "hey that could be me" so why is there always some douchey porn guy? I guess you work with who you have. |
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Facial abuse.com is so popular you used it as it's own word. Think about that for a second. ds |
When a dude's bunghole is in a shot or when a dude screams when he ejaculates. Both are fucking terrible. :throwup:throwup:throwup
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I don't like all the spitting either. You don't need to do all that loud "hack-thewie" stuff to get something moist. Ladies, slob and gob it up all you want, but enough with the damn loogie hawking.
My idea of better porn --- 1. Better lighting for one. Doesn't have to be A-1 professional grade but just be mindful of your shadows and hot spots. Put up some side lights out of the way. Make use of natural light. Bounce some off the ceiling. And for god's sake when you're poking the camera into her nether regions turn on the camera light! 2. Enough with the robotic fucking. It gets so each scene is the same as the last, same positions, same stock moanings and mewings, same formula start to finish. Why not try having them actually do it as if they are on their honeymoon (you know, ACT) rather than what they are, that being two paid strangers who show up for work and go through the motions for cash? 3. SOUND --- I've said this before on here, the sound quality in most online porn is SHIT. Why? Because most shooters rely 100% on the camera mic, thus as they move out the sound becomes unhearable, and as the move in for close shots any moan the girl makes sounds like King fucking Kong roaring. Invest in a boom mic for christs sake, or a couple of wireless ones and hide them around the scene. These days these accoutrements are not that expensive. No excuse. 4. Shut up. You, the guy with the camera. Yeah you. Shut your hole. Thanks. 5. If you're strapped for ideas on scripts, plots, situations etc, why not hire a writer? I know of several people on this very board including myself who've written tons of erotica over the years who would be happy to inject some life into your work for an affordable price. Don't be so cheap. 6. Have more than one camera running. If there's just one shooter then afix one or two stationary cameras from different sides. Of course you're going to be in some of that footage but it doesn't matter, you use the shots you need and cut the rest. ---- Oh wait, but that doesn't fit in with your "go cheap" motiff right? One camera, bad sound, poor lighting, bad direction, lackluster plot/situation, robotic "actors", Jerk scene at end rather than decent money shot, shoot-rinse-repeat, yes? Yeah good luck with that. I don't think I'm asking for the moon. Just some badly needed quality. Btw, there are a few people out there producing some really good stuff. They are however in the vast minority. And I do mean vast. |
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I personally know and like many people who work for Kink, and think overall they do great work (even though I am not personally into BDSM), however I think that Kink does the post-shoot interviews as much to cover their own ass as anything (and who can blame them). I shot a girl last week that did Hogtied a few years ago for Kink, and she said that she was totally traumatized by her experience, and considers it one of the worst experiences of her life. She acknowledges that she thought she knew what she was getting into, but nothing prepared her for what she was subjected to. She did the interview pretty much in a state of shock, she said, and it took her quite some time to get over the psychological impact. Someone else posted this awhile back: Quote:
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I can't stand bad acting in the setup. If all they can do is fuck them have them fuck. If they can act and fuck, have them do that.
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The things that worry me the most are the casting failures.
1. Innocent teens with tattoos is just ridiculous, yet even the better teen producers make this mistake. 2. Lesbian scenes where the models turns her nose up at seeing pussy and can't manage to get into it to save herself (how does this stuff make it to release ?) 3. Gay actors who are featured in some new videos not long after they've been doing straight porn :error There's such a volume of material released that it's easy to pick on some of it. It would be wrong of producers reading this thread to think we become more sensitive to the obvious fuck ups because we see so much of it, the target audience has a right to quality and some producers just cut corners. |
i'm follicley challenged so i'm a little offended by your first one....
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I love BDSM, and know that they have a limited talent pool, but Christ in the morning, I am sick of seeing the same people over and over and over again.
Vanilla porn bores me to tears. I don't care what lable is put on it, I hate spitting. That's just gross. I also hate when the talent stops and looks at the camera. I am obviously not the market that most porn is shot for, but who the fuck wants to see the guy's expresssion most of the time in what is supposed to be straight porn? Why not show the chick? |
Seeing inside of a girl's colon is not sexy. I'm trying to jerk off, not do a biopsy.
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People who ask affiliates to promote their sites then take them down for - oh - a year?
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STOP SHOWING ME THE DUDE'S FACE!!!! Thank you |
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Girls moaning when no-one's doing anything to them.
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The excess talking (worse if the cameraman chimes in)
Doggystyle. instead of some dudes asshole pounding her liver. Back up and show the tits and her face more.not digging closeups. I don't see enough partially clothed fucking.I dig a chick with her panties half way down or her top unbuttoned and a bra partially on . I also dig a short story or scenario prior to a fuck,builds it up a bit |
It would have to be the jerk off in the face endings.
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Need I say anything?
http://xhamster.com/movies/265560/pa...threesome.html The editor for some reason cut the intro and the ending that gave the scene a meaning and personality. When you have people like this editing, you know something's wrong. Sandra was a bit fake and I put that down to years in the business, still it's clear she's having a great time and sharing it.Doing nothing out of the normal otherwise. http://www.hardsextube.com/video/611503 The real test is in the comments and votes from viewers, not what a few idiots say here. |
i agree, more or less, but its my personal POV and this does not mean i am not selling/advertising such content.
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So why is the business this way? Money. Its that simple and I will beat my drum again. Start making a product that's worth it. Start paying what it takes to get the shooters who know how to shoot great porn. Why would someone want to pay for your crappy porn. Sponsors buy this crap or turn it out every day. That's who would buy it. :Oh crap It's simple. There are 100,000s of guys who can and will point a camera at a naked girl. There's a few 100 who can produce great porn and they go to the highest spenders. The first number might be too low. :1orglaugh I have lost count of the times people have asked me to shoot our level of porn for their level of budget. If a sponsor wants to $300 - $500 solo girl, $800-$1000 lesbian scene $1200-$2000 for an exclusive scene, he's up against better paying markets paying up to 10 times more. The good shooters did not work for that money. Now we have a few sites upping their content game, they only needed to up their content budget to achieve it. It's no different than any other section of the business. the best go to where the money is best. I's off to walk the dog, do some jigsaw, watch TV, do some cooking soon. Because we never went the route of shooting for some sites who wanted us to churn out cheap exclusive porn for them. :thumbsup Most custom shooters have to work next week to pay the bills. Go figure why. *me banging the same old drum* |
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Examples; http://www.foxytube.com/videos/17478/polish-babe.html?utm_source=easygals&utm_medium=network1& utm_campaign=mike Trailer |
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Agreed, lots of lame, staged, boring shit compared to the fresh vanilla HD on YT so thankfully some folks need hardcore to get off. I actually prefer a lil vanilla with a bodacious babe. Get grossed out by all that spitting, cocks, cum and shit. :) But that's just me. I'll be at YT drooling over Elisha Cuthbert in 1080p on Letterman or something. :) http://www.sqvirtual.com/img/elishacuthbert0001.jpg http://www.sqvirtual.com/img/elishacuthbert0002.jpg female spitting is ok as long as she's hot :) |
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Ending the scene 10 seconds after the cumshot is also terrible, as has been mentioned. Of course, if the scene DID go on then we, the audience, would see a girl wiping cum off her face, looking slightly humiliated/embarassed, then we would see her count her money, maybe do a line of coke, do a 'whore bath' and just wash her cooze then run off to do another shoot before the drugs wear off.
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good point... also I hate to watch movies when male can't keep his erection... it's just pathetic... |
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BUNGHOLIO http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/blahdoc...olio1_7144.gif Anything is better than the old days when there was 30 second close up of some sweaty loser's face looking like he was about to pass out, then a greasy nasty "money shot" |
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