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Roald · 05-04-2012, 08:34 AM

50k Owed!

Model Gisele · 05-04-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous

If you read my post, i was referring to ownership of the domain. Nobody who knows what theyre doing would agree to that because of the risk involved. Theres more risk for a company who does all the work to make the website money.

The only people who would agree to that are people who are desperate and tripping over their feet to do a site for you (the ones that will fail) not the ones who can make the sites 10k+/month gross

I dont suspect a model will respond to my post with, yeah youre probably right, i will come back here and bump this thread 12 months after the launch :/

If you can name me 5 successful softcore solo sites to launch in the past 2 1/2 years. Then you might change my mind somewhat but you wont be able to. And thats including big reputable companies, nevermind a model and a webmaster that hasn't launched anything remotely big recently. Its 2012 and solo sites are a thing of the past (almost), if the big boys are backing out, thinking a model who is outsourcing her webmaster work can do it, well its not likely. Im not trying to criticize, just giving my opinion on it all considering im one of the few still launching websites so i think its an opinion you should take into consideration

Few left out there that can do anything and none of them would give a model the service of turning their photos/videos into a high source of revenue while keeping that business in the models names. You should consider properly written contracts, that makes more sense

i agree to points mentioned ;)

Model Gisele · 05-04-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald

50k Owed!

Mutt · 05-04-2012, 09:23 AM

whatever you do don't accept an offer of help from an MFC fanboy who claims he is a programmer/designer/webmaster wizard. you need somebody with a track record of running successful solo model paysites.

Mutt · 05-04-2012, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald

50k Owed!

wtf - how did you guys let it get to that point?

Model Gisele · 05-04-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DigitalTheory

I think she has been doing all of this for the past few years as it is.

I have been VERY hands on in the managing of my previous sites.. almost to a fault lol Yet another reason I finally decided to stop the cycle where I am putting myself out there on so many personal and physical levels only to have profits going into pockets undeserving.. Of course this is more just a case of working with the "wrong" people and is not judgement on every webmaster out there.. Just a little guard that I have now put up when it comes time to do another site I am ALL for doing whats honest and fair. If you are working hard and helping the site grow then compensation needs and will be given accordingly. I am not ruling out the option of having a "webmaster" just simply saying that I will not allow for another individual to be the "owner" of what is inevitably Mine

I can not find any justification as to why a 2nd or 3rd party should ever own a brand that is 110% based off of my offerings..

As mentioned, my forte without a doubt is Modeling and my ability to interact with a following.. So of course a partner/webmaster/tech team etc etc will be very much needed.. However next time around I will be very selective and very hands on with the process in all aspects. Safe to say I will be handing out contracts to be signed :P

ps.. thanks to those who have given some words of encouragement and offering your generosity! I hope I have not offended any reputable webmasters out there or made it seem as if their talents are unneeded ... Just think its time models start having more control and ownership these days with all that we are putting out there and even at times sacrificing.. I hate seeing so many "dead sites" out there where the model has zero % compensation. Yes these are repercussions to ill decisions made around contract signing time (something i have even fallen victim of once upon a time(s) ).. but I think it needs to change. For models willing to take on more roles other than showing up to photoshoots, options should be given to where there is ownership of a brand that is US !
This option isn't for everyone of course.. but I am ready to do just that.. and I shall ;)

Believe it or not.. we aren't just all pretty faces

Roald · 05-04-2012, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

wtf - how did you guys let it get to that point?

Fuck guys its the 50th reply.

Maybe in total but not 50k to us lol

Still way too much though

jscott · 05-04-2012, 09:45 AM

LOL I was just gonna reply for you Roald cuz i understood, but nobody else did LOL, but I think since you from Freeones, we never know, cuz $50k from F.O. is probably made daily LOL :P

Model Gisele · 05-04-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

Talent should never run their own solo site. They should be contracted for a certain amount of time/photos/videos for their sites.

Doesn't have an affiliate program because she doesn't want anybody owning or using her to make money.
Well, all her videos are posted on tube sites without any mentioning of her site or link to her site.

Again...only a rare few solo models should be out their on their own.

My main goal is to never have a site up dead or not and I am not getting a %.. I also want to have the authority to make any and all final decisions.. I never want to "run" it alone lol Just like any successful business.. there is no I in Team..

TheSenator · 05-04-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

Talent should never run their own solo site. They should be contracted for a certain amount of time/photos/videos for their sites.

For example http://www.briannafrost.com/
Doesn't have an affiliate program because she doesn't want anybody owning or using her to make money.
Well, all her videos are posted on tube sites without any mentioning of her site or link to her site.

Again...only a rare few solo models should be out their on their own.

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Originally Posted by Model Gisele

My main goal is to never have a site up dead or not and I am not getting a %.. I also want to have the authority to make any and all final decisions.. I never want to "run" it alone lol Just like any successful business.. there is no I in Team..

Please do not misquote me. Thank You

timlover · 05-04-2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

Please do not misquote me. Thank You

Right? Who do they think they are? Your wife?

:P

LeivaMedia · 05-04-2012, 12:17 PM

This is very fucked up, this business each day, each month, each year is going down the drain

Plugrush · 05-04-2012, 01:32 PM

Bump, Gisele are you still releasing a video explaining what exactly happened?

PAR · 05-04-2012, 04:34 PM

Roald, post the real amount and don't forget she how controls the cash controls payment. And yet nobody is posting about her at all. Way more to what's going on.. Little tip when owed money findout who's name the processesings account is in.;) just saying. From what its seems the people being posted about are also victoms along with models webmasters etc.. Follow the money..

Model Gisele · 05-04-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

Please do not misquote me. Thank You

huh?

Mutt · 05-04-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PAR

Roald, post the real amount and don't forget she how controls the cash controls payment. And yet nobody is posting about her at all. Way more to what's going on.. Little tip when owed money findout who's name the processesings account is in.;) just saying. From what its seems the people being posted about are also victoms along with models webmasters etc.. Follow the money..

you're suggesting Abbie is making Sean and Luc the fall guys?

Model Gisele · 05-04-2012, 05:01 PM

Anywho I will be making a video soon.. I do not wish to publicly defame anyone or any company as we can already see the damage has been done with the truth finally at surface.. but I have been waiting for a moment to speak a little on whats been on my mind over the last 6 years and I think the time has come ;)

jscott · 05-04-2012, 05:03 PM

Sean just told me that for legal reasons I must write a letter to some Canada company address, suggesting that is the only reason I can get paid out my balance

Mutt · 05-04-2012, 05:08 PM

Gisele did both you and Violet use the same surgeon for your boobs? You both have the best boob jobs i've ever seen, well i've seen others just as good but none better.

Mutt · 05-04-2012, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Model Gisele

Anywho I will be making a video soon.. I do not wish to publicly defame anyone or any company as we can already see the damage has been done with the truth finally at surface.. but I have been waiting for a moment to speak a little on whats been on my mind over the last 6 years and I think the time has come ;)

you can't defame/libel/slander anybody if what you're saying about a person is the truth.

Exit-chat · 05-04-2012, 05:31 PM

They owe us XX,XXX as well... It has been turned over to legal at this point.. Sounds like Sean is not looking to pay up anyone at this time...

Nurgle · 05-04-2012, 06:30 PM

Gisele get a good site going, we all want to promote those lovely big boobs of yours LOL

2MuchMark · 05-04-2012, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jscott

Sean just told me that for legal reasons I must write a letter to some Canada company address, suggesting that is the only reason I can get paid out my balance

Intradesting...

violetdoll · 05-04-2012, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Model Gisele

Live and Learn that's for sure... I have so much to say on the subject.. but to avoid any more "drama" .. I will be making a vid post soon to put in my 2 cents in as well.. I left GotGisele.com at the beginning of the New Year (2012). I wont go in detail about the reasoning behind my decision but I will say that alot of it was also based upon the same accusations being said today.. I do not wish ill on anyone, but am happy to see that the truth does indeed always come out in the end. I look forward to moving on to a more promising future with business partners that grasp the importance of running a fair and honest business. Its shocking how simple of a thing to treat others with fairness and respect can get you so far in life, yet so little care to practice that method. I truly hope this is a lesson learned to those in the wrong. And I cant help but to hope this is an eye opener for people in the industry who are not models, to see the reasoning behind models such as myself and others for making decisions to resign from such companies.. We also have been the victims of fraud, betrayal and dishonest business and never wished to cause any inconvenience with affiliates with our decisions to leave sites to become "dead"... It's safe to say that I look forward to getting back in action more than ever now..

-G

Ditto to this. . . . I have a lot to say, but I'll avoid the drama for now. Especially after dealing with malicious behavior for some time. I just want to move on. I stopped with Viorotica updates last summer pretty much. I started making excellent income camming, and the hassle was no longer worth it. Felt bad leaving my members, but I was rarely paid on time if at all.

Odd that all their sites are back up today. I'm so confused!

violetdoll · 05-04-2012, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

Gisele did both you and Violet use the same surgeon for your boobs? You both have the best boob jobs i've ever seen, well i've seen others just as good but none better.

We don't have the same surgeon, but thank you very much! I love fondling Gisele's boobies.

miss_bellabellini · 05-04-2012, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by violetdoll

Ditto to this. . . . I have a lot to say, but I'll avoid the drama for now. Especially after dealing with malicious behavior for some time. I just want to move on. I stopped with Viorotica updates last summer pretty much. I started making excellent income camming, and the hassle was no longer worth it. Felt bad leaving my members, but I was rarely paid on time if at all.

Odd that all their sites are back up today. I'm so confused!

Here's the explanation. Sean gets your site, OHC (good luck getting models!), and Gisele's site. Abbie has started a new program

http://www.sweetassmodels.com/forum/...pic,209.0.html

Here's the post cut and paste in case they take it down. This is Abbie posting BTW

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I just wanted to give an update on some of the sites and transitions going on. As most of you know, I have parted ways with OHC, et al. However, as part of that split, I am retaining some properties. LiveCamCash, all OHC Sites, GotGisele and Viorotica will be kept by my former partner, Sean.

CamerellaCams.com will merge with BustyCamerella.com - buy a membership to one and you get access to both. We are in the process of moving all of the content and techy stuff to our servers.

xoEve.com will merge with EvelynCates.com - buy a membership to one and you get access to both. We are in the process of moving all of the content and techy stuff to our servers.

CamWithCarmen.com will merge with CarmenBella.com - CarmenBella will feature Carmen's blog and store. Carmen will be updating again at CamWithCarmen starting again sometime in the next two months. Unsure about member chats as of yet. CamWithCarmen members will get a discount in Carmen's store.

VeronicasVice.com - Veronica has chosen to rebuild her site with all new content but will be retaining her domain.

All of the models featured on these sites will be active on their new projects as well as promoting their old ones, so hopefully this post will give some clarification as to what is going on.

http://www.SweetVic.com
http://www.TheAriDee.com
http://www.FemmeEden.com
http://www.ElouisePlease.com
http://www.Luxxxie.com
http://www.LitaLenee.com
http://www.TayStevens.com

Most of these sites have blogs up finally. We will be working on the designs for the blogs and their respective member's sites and/or stores soon!

---

violetdoll · 05-04-2012, 09:51 PM

She makes it all sound awfully innocent. :P

miss_bellabellini · 05-04-2012, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by violetdoll

She makes it all sound awfully innocent. :P

Just another day at the office!

violetdoll · 05-04-2012, 09:57 PM

I wonder, why did she delete her twitter yesterday? lol

Roald · 05-04-2012, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PAR

Roald, post the real amount and don't forget she how controls the cash controls payment. And yet nobody is posting about her at all. Way more to what's going on.. Little tip when owed money findout who's name the processesings account is in.;) just saying. From what its seems the people being posted about are also victoms along with models webmasters etc.. Follow the money..

Lets just keep it at high x,xxx

Mutt · 05-05-2012, 03:18 AM

expose her for what she is - maybe you'll help these other models avoid some emotional and financial heartache.

SNRCash/CWH - relationship with partner/owner ends badly, litigation

SpunkyCash - relationship with owner/employer ends badly

LiveCamCash/OHC - relationship with owners/partners/models/affiliates ends badly

Mutt · 05-05-2012, 03:40 AM

LOL - she's STILL promoting GotGisele.com and Viorotica.com to this day on other models' blogs she is still working with. I guess when Abbie makes sales on Gisele and Violet's paysites she has no problem getting paid. Gee, what a shock.

http://luxxxie.com/blog/?p=854
http://litalenee.com/blog/

Nurgle · 05-05-2012, 07:32 AM

hopefully no one will have any links to any shit Abbie in involved in, seems like she is a top notch scumbag

TheSenator · 05-05-2012, 09:32 AM

Hopefully, Abbie will use CCBill straight up.

Get my cake weekly sonnn...

His Infernal Majesty · 05-05-2012, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

Hopefully, Abbie will use CCBill straight up.

Get my cake weekly sonnn...

I agree!

miss_bellabellini · 05-05-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

Hopefully, Abbie will use CCBill straight up.

Get my cake weekly sonnn...

Why promote her new projects if you weren't paid on her old projects?

TheSenator · 05-05-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by miss_bellabellini

Why promote her new projects if you weren't paid on her old projects?

Until all the facts come out...

Waiting for Gisele's video.

"put this cake in your face"

PAR · 05-05-2012, 11:15 AM

Hey Mutt...
Ever wonder who is in care and control of the epoch (us) accounts. Hint name starts with "Abbie"... After all is said and done why not question why the person in care of the money is not paying and not the biz partners she fucked over.

PAR · 05-05-2012, 11:33 AM

Senator ... Ya let's wait for a video about what's going on made by a model that has not worked for them since? Wouldn't it just be simpler to just say abbie (formerly know as the "poor me, I have all the cash but will let my biz partner and an emplyee take the wrap" girl.) Is fucking everyone over. Or option 2 we can sit and wait on some model that thinks she needs a % off every site that has her content up when the tubes are full of it. Models always give me the best biz advice loo

Mutt · 05-05-2012, 11:54 AM

unbelievable there are those who are going to continue to support her new sites - good luck with that!

TheSenator · 05-05-2012, 12:06 PM

So.. Abbie = Sean DeFreitas = Luc Perreault

http://qkme.me/3p4z5g

violetdoll · 05-05-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

expose her for what she is - maybe you'll help these other models avoid some emotional and financial heartache.

SNRCash/CWH - relationship with partner/owner ends badly, litigation

SpunkyCash - relationship with owner/employer ends badly

LiveCamCash/OHC - relationship with owners/partners/models/affiliates ends badly

This.

Unfortunately, these models aren't going to listen. They think Abbie is going to make them a star. And when she's bad mouthing anyone and everyone she's fucked over, (I'm a dirty slut, she fired me, etc) they believe it. A few girls have been smart enough to ask around, but most of the new girls are pretty far up Abbie's ass.

This woman pretended to be a completely fictional person for years, using photos of someone else to break into the industry. Her excuse to avoid meeting her business partner at one point, she had HIV. Complete pathological liar. Just ask anyone from CamWithHer. I'm surprised everyone doesn't know this by now. . .

I'm not keeping quiet anymore. Fuck it.

TheSenator · 05-05-2012, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by violetdoll

This.

Unfortunately, these models aren't going to listen. They think Abbie is going to make them a star. And when she's bad mouthing anyone and everyone she's fucked over, (I'm a dirty slut, she fired me, etc) they believe it. A few girls have been smart enough to ask around, but most of the new girls are pretty far up Abbie's ass.

This woman pretended to be a completely fictional person for years, using photos of someone else to break into the industry. Her excuse to avoid meeting her business partner at one point, she had HIV. Complete pathological liar. Just ask anyone from CamWithHer. I'm surprised everyone doesn't know this by now. . .

I'm not keeping quiet anymore. Fuck it.

Thank You....much respect.

His Infernal Majesty · 05-05-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

unbelievable there are those who are going to continue to support her new sites - good luck with that!

If you have sites that convert their type of content, what else should you do? Make no money? I've been screwed over by so many programs, and there are so many dead sites floating around, it doesn't leave much to push. It sucks and I lost money over this, but I also made money while they were running and operational. I will only consider it if it's on CCBill at this point, so I don't have to go chasing checks. I completely understand why so many affiliates just say fuck this and sell their sites or just quit.

Mutt · 05-05-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by violetdoll

This.

Unfortunately, these models aren't going to listen. They think Abbie is going to make them a star. And when she's bad mouthing anyone and everyone she's fucked over, (I'm a dirty slut, she fired me, etc) they believe it. A few girls have been smart enough to ask around, but most of the new girls are pretty far up Abbie's ass.

Violet did you and Gisele have access to the sales stats for your sites?

violetdoll · 05-05-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

Violet did you and Gisele have access to the sales stats for your sites?

Yes, through livecamcash.

And believe me guys we begged for months, years even, for them to use third party billing like ccbill.
We were told that it would be way more expensive, and they were saving us money. Instead we were provided with pay breakdowns, typed up by Sean I believe. With a lot of unexplained miscellaneous fees. I feel like a complete moron for trusting them.

Mutt · 05-05-2012, 03:44 PM

well you both left IHeartBucks where i'm sure you both made more money - the grass doesn't turn out to be greener usually when somebody is promising it will be.

solo sites are not what they once were - more money to be made on MFC.

violetdoll · 05-05-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

well you both left IHeartBucks where i'm sure you both made more money - the grass doesn't turn out to be greener usually when somebody is promising it will be.

solo sites are not what they once were - more money to be made on MFC.

I won't speak for Gisele, but that's not the case for me. My paychecks were absolute shit with IHB.

Webmasters always promise to make me so much money. lol I've accepted that maybe I'm just not cut out for a solo site. Who knows what the future holds. Kicking ass on MFC though.

spunky99 · 05-05-2012, 03:54 PM

the solo market isnt what it used to be. i miss 2005

cybermike · 05-05-2012, 04:06 PM

You girls should cam on streamate too.. I need more hot girls to promote on my white label

05-04-2012, 08:34 AM	#51
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05-04-2012, 09:23 AM	#54
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	whatever you do don't accept an offer of help from an MFC fanboy who claims he is a programmer/designer/webmaster wizard. you need somebody with a track record of running successful solo model paysites. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

05-04-2012, 09:45 AM	#58
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	LOL I was just gonna reply for you Roald cuz i understood, but nobody else did LOL, but I think since you from Freeones, we never know, cuz $50k from F.O. is probably made daily LOL :P Last edited by jscott; 05-04-2012 at 09:47 AM..

05-04-2012, 12:17 PM	#62
LeivaMedia Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 338	This is very fucked up, this business each day, each month, each year is going down the drain __________________ Leiva Media Contact ICQ: 366515936 Click to view Email: [email protected]

05-04-2012, 01:32 PM	#63
Plugrush Moving Traffic Forward Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 384	Bump, Gisele are you still releasing a video explaining what exactly happened? __________________ Self-Serve Traffic Network Adult & Mainstream Traffic Open for everybody that wants to sell or buy traffic + RTB/DSP/XML

05-04-2012, 04:34 PM	#64
PAR Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,835	Roald, post the real amount and don't forget she how controls the cash controls payment. And yet nobody is posting about her at all. Way more to what's going on.. Little tip when owed money findout who's name the processesings account is in.;) just saying. From what its seems the people being posted about are also victoms along with models webmasters etc.. Follow the money..

05-04-2012, 05:01 PM	#67
Model Gisele Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 36	Anywho I will be making a video soon.. I do not wish to publicly defame anyone or any company as we can already see the damage has been done with the truth finally at surface.. but I have been waiting for a moment to speak a little on whats been on my mind over the last 6 years and I think the time has come ;) __________________ xoGisele on Twitter ... Gisele@MyFreeCams

05-04-2012, 05:03 PM	#68
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	Sean just told me that for legal reasons I must write a letter to some Canada company address, suggesting that is the only reason I can get paid out my balance

05-04-2012, 05:08 PM	#69
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Gisele did both you and Violet use the same surgeon for your boobs? You both have the best boob jobs i've ever seen, well i've seen others just as good but none better. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

05-04-2012, 05:31 PM	#71
Exit-chat Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 444	They owe us XX,XXX as well... It has been turned over to legal at this point.. Sounds like Sean is not looking to pay up anyone at this time... __________________ Rick Bennink CEO www.Exit-Chat.com icq 278635939 [email protected] The market creator and leader in AI chat customer recovery since 2005!

05-04-2012, 06:30 PM	#72
Nurgle Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Land of OZ Posts: 2,337	Gisele get a good site going, we all want to promote those lovely big boobs of yours LOL __________________ I am not a megalomaniac.. I just rule the world Need Quality Hardlinks? We have several packages and custom deals available. High Quality Hard Links For Sale ICQ: 394016570

05-04-2012, 09:51 PM	#77
violetdoll Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 29	She makes it all sound awfully innocent. :P

05-04-2012, 09:57 PM	#79
violetdoll Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 29	I wonder, why did she delete her twitter yesterday? lol

05-05-2012, 03:18 AM	#81
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	expose her for what she is - maybe you'll help these other models avoid some emotional and financial heartache. SNRCash/CWH - relationship with partner/owner ends badly, litigation SpunkyCash - relationship with owner/employer ends badly LiveCamCash/OHC - relationship with owners/partners/models/affiliates ends badly __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

05-05-2012, 03:40 AM	#82
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	LOL - she's STILL promoting GotGisele.com and Viorotica.com to this day on other models' blogs she is still working with. I guess when Abbie makes sales on Gisele and Violet's paysites she has no problem getting paid. Gee, what a shock. http://luxxxie.com/blog/?p=854 http://litalenee.com/blog/ __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

05-05-2012, 07:32 AM	#83
Nurgle Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Land of OZ Posts: 2,337	hopefully no one will have any links to any shit Abbie in involved in, seems like she is a top notch scumbag __________________ I am not a megalomaniac.. I just rule the world Need Quality Hardlinks? We have several packages and custom deals available. High Quality Hard Links For Sale ICQ: 394016570

05-05-2012, 09:32 AM	#84
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,332	Hopefully, Abbie will use CCBill straight up. Get my cake weekly sonnn... __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

05-05-2012, 11:15 AM	#88
PAR Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,835	Hey Mutt... Ever wonder who is in care and control of the epoch (us) accounts. Hint name starts with "Abbie"... After all is said and done why not question why the person in care of the money is not paying and not the biz partners she fucked over.

05-05-2012, 11:33 AM	#89
PAR Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,835	Senator ... Ya let's wait for a video about what's going on made by a model that has not worked for them since? Wouldn't it just be simpler to just say abbie (formerly know as the "poor me, I have all the cash but will let my biz partner and an emplyee take the wrap" girl.) Is fucking everyone over. Or option 2 we can sit and wait on some model that thinks she needs a % off every site that has her content up when the tubes are full of it. Models always give me the best biz advice loo

05-05-2012, 11:54 AM	#90
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	unbelievable there are those who are going to continue to support her new sites - good luck with that! __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

05-05-2012, 12:06 PM	#91
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,332	So.. Abbie = Sean DeFreitas = Luc Perreault http://qkme.me/3p4z5g __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

05-05-2012, 03:44 PM	#97
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05-05-2012, 03:54 PM	#99
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05-05-2012, 04:06 PM	#100
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