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psyko514 · 02-11-2003, 12:41 AM

If you got an active website with active members and you want to switch servers, how do you get around the domain name downtime that'll come with changing your nameservers?

grumpy · 02-11-2003, 12:43 AM

You dont....its a problem......take 24-48 hours for it

rooster · 02-11-2003, 12:44 AM

get all the shit setup on the new host first, then make the nameserver change, and then theres no downtime.

psyko514 · 02-11-2003, 12:45 AM

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Originally posted by rooster
get all the shit setup on the new host first, then make the nameserver change, and then theres no downtime.

it takes 24-48 hours for domain-name propagation...

rooster · 02-11-2003, 12:46 AM

log in with the ip

psyko514 · 02-11-2003, 12:49 AM

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Originally posted by rooster
log in with the ip

dude, i don't think you're getting it.

when members try and access your site by it's domain name, it'll be down for 24-48 hrs.
i'm trying to find a way around that.

rooster · 02-11-2003, 12:51 AM

1. log into new host with ip and set up all your stuff

2. change nameserver on domain.

3. they will access the site on your old host and once it starts resolving to the new host, your stuff will already be set up.

Theres no downtime

psyko514 · 02-11-2003, 12:53 AM

so you're saying that while the domain name is in the process of being resolved to my new nameservers, it'll still point to my old nameservers?

rooster · 02-11-2003, 12:55 AM

Warden · 02-11-2003, 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by psyko514

it takes 24-48 hours for domain-name propagation...

Not only that but if you do everything in house that means you have data that needs to be exported. Which means you have to have the DB's closed off and shut down the old site during propagation. If don't have to worry about data, you can always just do a Meta refresh to your new IP.

quiet · 02-11-2003, 12:55 AM

it's pretty simple. you need to have both hosts operating while the dns progagation takes place. once everything is running off of your new host, you can kill the old one.

psyko514 · 02-11-2003, 01:04 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
it's pretty simple. you need to have both hosts operating while the dns progagation takes place. once everything is running off of your new host, you can kill the old one.

excellent... thanks everybody.

my understanding was that while the dns propagation was taking place, the domain name would be down completely.

quiet · 02-11-2003, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by psyko514

excellent... thanks everybody.

my understanding was that while the dns propagation was taking place, the domain name would be down completely.

the traffic will gradually shift away from your old host and to your new one - no downtime as long as you have working copies of your sites on both hosts while you wait for propagation to complete itself.

psyko514 · 02-11-2003, 01:16 AM

here are some cookies for all those that helped

thanks guys

BluMedia · 02-11-2003, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
1. log into new host with ip and set up all your stuff

2. change nameserver on domain.

3. they will access the site on your old host and once it starts resolving to the new host, your stuff will already be set up.

Theres no downtime

I learned that the hard way over 5 years ago. Where the hell was this board then.

Eugene_K · 02-11-2003, 03:23 AM

hmm...
complicated, but the best solution for dynamic sites:

1. Setup all the shit on the new server/IP
2. Have new DNS point to the new server/IP
3. Have old DNS point to the new server/IP
4. Make the modification to domain records, changing old DNS info to the new DNS info
5. When all the hits are already coming via the new DNS (48-72 hrs), take down the old server.

BajaNomad · 02-11-2003, 03:26 AM

And if you're running off a database, transfer it to the new site, and connect the old site to the database on the new site, so that both sites are using the same info.

Runs slow on the disconnected site if it's not behind the same firewall, but it will work.

Make sure you give it a good 4 or 5 days before you kill the old site. Just because it resolves for you through your ISP, doesn't mean it's resolving for everyone else.

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 02-11-2003, 03:34 AM

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Originally posted by grumpy
You dont....its a problem......take 24-48 hours for it

Not true at all ....

We can set you up with ZERO DOWNTIME

What kind of a plan are you looking for psycho514 ??

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-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 02-11-2003, 03:36 AM

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Originally posted by Eugene_K
hmm...
complicated, but the best solution for dynamic sites:

1. Setup all the shit on the new server/IP
2. Have new DNS point to the new server/IP
3. Have old DNS point to the new server/IP
4. Make the modification to domain records, changing old DNS info to the new DNS info
5. When all the hits are already coming via the new DNS (48-72 hrs), take down the old server.

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 02-11-2003, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
it's pretty simple. you need to have both hosts operating while the dns progagation takes place. once everything is running off of your new host, you can kill the old one.

exactly!

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rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	get all the shit setup on the new host first, then make the nameserver change, and then theres no downtime.

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rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	log in with the ip

02-11-2003, 12:51 AM	#7
rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	1. log into new host with ip and set up all your stuff 2. change nameserver on domain. 3. they will access the site on your old host and once it starts resolving to the new host, your stuff will already be set up. Theres no downtime

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quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	it's pretty simple. you need to have both hosts operating while the dns progagation takes place. once everything is running off of your new host, you can kill the old one.

02-11-2003, 03:23 AM	#16
Eugene_K Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 87	hmm... complicated, but the best solution for dynamic sites: 1. Setup all the shit on the new server/IP 2. Have new DNS point to the new server/IP 3. Have old DNS point to the new server/IP 4. Make the modification to domain records, changing old DNS info to the new DNS info 5. When all the hits are already coming via the new DNS (48-72 hrs), take down the old server. __________________ AdRevolver - adult ad management and tracking. BP4L !

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BajaNomad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 10	And if you're running off a database, transfer it to the new site, and connect the old site to the database on the new site, so that both sites are using the same info. Runs slow on the disconnected site if it's not behind the same firewall, but it will work. Make sure you give it a good 4 or 5 days before you kill the old site. Just because it resolves for you through your ISP, doesn't mean it's resolving for everyone else.