Any Hana flv/FV Wordpress Flowplayer experts in the house? - GoFuckYourself.com

Jel · 04-30-2012, 02:54 AM

ok so I'm converting a members area into wordpress & flv vids, and run into the following problems:

FV Wordpress Flowplayer:
Autoplays videos, no matter what the settings, or specific parameters within the post. I run this on quite a few blogs, with no such problem. Cannot figure out why it insists on auto-starting in this particular instance (wp 3.3.1, theme elements-of-seo) so attempted to use;

Hana Flv Player:
1. Can't set a startimage
2. When playing, it brings up the first few lines of html from the tour index and overlays it on the video

Now, the html is in another directory entirely (obviously, beings tour is on root) so that one is severely doing my nut in.

Anyone have any ideas?

AdultKing · 04-30-2012, 03:13 AM

FV Wordpress Flowplayer has an autoplay parameter

[flowplayer src='example.flv' autoplay=true]

or

[flowplayer src='example.flv' autoplay=false]

Why not provide MP4 instead of FLV so a wider selection of users can view them ?

Jel · 04-30-2012, 03:19 AM

yeah, autoplay is set to false, and even additionally stipulating false within the post doesn't work. I'm thinking it might be the theme actually, basically because I can't think wtf else it can be.

I'm not an expert by any means on the best format to use - what are the limitations of flv? I basically went for what youtube use, thinking that's pretty popular, and almost everyone can view youtube; whichmembers/users are not going to be able to view flvs? Thanks

AdultKing · 04-30-2012, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

yeah, autoplay is set to false, and even additionally stipulating false within the post doesn't work. I'm thinking it might be the theme actually, basically because I can't think wtf else it can be.

I'm not an expert by any means on the best format to use - what are the limitations of flv? I basically went for what youtube use, thinking that's pretty popular, and almost everyone can view youtube; whichmembers/users are not going to be able to view flvs? Thanks

People on iPads can't view FLV for example.

As for Flowplayer, which version are you using ?

Darkhorse · 04-30-2012, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

Hana Flv Player:
1. Can't set a startimage
2. When playing, it brings up the first few lines of html from the tour index and overlays it on the video

Now, the html is in another directory entirely (obviously, beings tour is on root) so that one is severely doing my nut in.

Anyone have any ideas?

What is the current code you are using for Hana? Just so I can see if there is any issue with it.

Jel · 04-30-2012, 03:29 AM

ok it was the theme, damn what a pita.

and really ipads/flv? There's something I just learned. These people can't see youtube vids?

Jel · 04-30-2012, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkhorse

What is the current code you are using for Hana? Just so I can see if there is any issue with it.

[hana-flv-player video='fullpathto_source.flv' splash='fullpathto_source.jpg' /]

AdultKing · 04-30-2012, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

ok it was the theme, damn what a pita.

and really ipads/flv? There's something I just learned. These people can't see youtube vids?

Youtube video works fine on an iPad. Youtube uses a HTML5 player to present different formats such as H.264. All Youtube content was transcoded to H.264 some time ago.

DamianJ · 04-30-2012, 03:37 AM

[QUOTE=Jel;18916352
and really ipads/flv? There's something I just learned. These people can't see youtube vids?[/QUOTE]

Flash doesn't work on any iOS device.

h.264 ftw.

Jel · 04-30-2012, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Youtube video works fine on an iPad. Youtube uses a HTML5 player to present different formats such as H.264. All Youtube content was transcoded to H.264 some time ago.

Ah ok. Wish I'd started this thread a couple of days ago

Any specific parameters I should be setting for mp4? Original files are wmv and mpg

Darkhorse · 04-30-2012, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel

[hana-flv-player video='fullpathto_source.flv' splash='fullpathto_source.jpg' /]

This will auto load a splash image from the movie if you use the code below.

Code:

[hana-flv-player
video="flvlinkhere"
player="4"
autoload="true" autoplay="false"
more_4="onStart: function() { 
   if (!this.bufferingStopped){
      if (!playersArray) var playersArray=new Array();
      playersArray.push(this.id());
      setTimeout( function() { name=playersArray.shift(); $f(name).stopBuffering(); },  1000 );
      this.bufferingStopped = true; 
   }  	
}" /]

This only works with Flowplayer v3 (player=?4″). Once it initiates the download , it will stop buffering after 1 second. If you want to increase the 1 second delay, change ?1000′ to something else. It?s in miliseconds.

I have got it working with other players (then flowplayer) Hope that helps you in some way.

Jel · 04-30-2012, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkhorse

This will auto load a splash image from the movie if you use the code below.

Code:

[hana-flv-player
video="flvlinkhere"
player="4"
autoload="true" autoplay="false"
more_4="onStart: function() { 
   if (!this.bufferingStopped){
      if (!playersArray) var playersArray=new Array();
      playersArray.push(this.id());
      setTimeout( function() { name=playersArray.shift(); $f(name).stopBuffering(); },  1000 );
      this.bufferingStopped = true; 
   }  	
}" /]

This only works with Flowplayer v3 (player=?4″). Once it initiates the download , it will stop buffering after 1 second. If you want to increase the 1 second delay, change ?1000′ to something else. It?s in miliseconds.

I have got it working with other players (then flowplayer) Hope that helps you in some way.

Ok thanks - for some reason that has got rid of the html code overlay, though it's not loading any splash image

AdultKing · 04-30-2012, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel

Ah ok. Wish I'd started this thread a couple of days ago

Any specific parameters I should be setting for mp4? Original files are wmv and mpg

I'd convert them all to H.264 then run MP4Box on them with this command

MP4Box -inter 500 filename

Running that command will make them all fast start MP4 files.

Do you have a Mac ? or a linux box capable of running MP4Box ?

Jel · 04-30-2012, 04:36 AM

me no speaky tech.

I see hana won't play the mp4 file I just created though '_'

AdultKing · 04-30-2012, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel

me no speaky tech.

I see hana won't play the mp4 file I just created though '_'

If you're on a Mac, download the excellent and free software called Handbrake to use to convert your videos to web optimized H264 m4v files.

Then run MP4Box on them all to shift the MOOV atom from the end to the beginning of the file.

(MP4Box needs to be compiled on your machine, I can give you instructions to do that if wanted)

That's how I deal with videos I need to convert to MP4 for web use. It's easy and I don't actually need to be hands on. Short of just starting the batch convert there's no work involved, just waiting.

Someone else might be able to tell you the best way to do it on Windows, I have no idea.

Jel · 05-01-2012, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing

If you're on a Mac, download the excellent and free software called Handbrake to use to convert your videos to web optimized H264 m4v files.

Then run MP4Box on them all to shift the MOOV atom from the end to the beginning of the file.

(MP4Box needs to be compiled on your machine, I can give you instructions to do that if wanted)

That's how I deal with videos I need to convert to MP4 for web use. It's easy and I don't actually need to be hands on. Short of just starting the batch convert there's no work involved, just waiting.

Someone else might be able to tell you the best way to do it on Windows, I have no idea.

thanks, windows here

Darkhorse · 05-01-2012, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel

thanks, windows here

Handbrake will work on windows as well see below for download link.

http://handbrake.fr/downloads.php

I prefer Mediacoder for converting files but only because it's what I have used for ages now, Handbrake is good and everyone uses it as well.

http://www.mediacoderhq.com/

I take it you never sorted out the issues with the splash image?

Jel · 05-01-2012, 03:27 AM

thanks mate will have a butchers at that now. Splash image - nope. I'll get this sorted then go from there

Jel · 05-01-2012, 03:32 AM

MP4Box help would be appreciated also

Darkhorse · 05-01-2012, 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

MP4Box help would be appreciated also

Never used that myself, so hopefully Adultking can help you there

Jel · 05-01-2012, 03:40 AM

ok installed that and YAMB, google search pointed me in the direction of just running it through 'mux' which is what I've done - did I do good, or did I do baaad?

Jel · 05-01-2012, 03:41 AM

ah yep sorry, got mixed up there

AdultKing · 05-01-2012, 03:49 AM

I don't use Windows but I did some research for you.

MP4Box will run on Windows.

You can download MP4Box for Windows here

http://adultking.co.uk/software/MP4B....6-rev2735.zip

(Note: I did not compile this)

Run the following commands on each file:

MP4Box.exe -inter 500 filename.mp4

This will shift the MOOV atom to the front of the file allowing fast start and pseudo streaming.

MP4Box.exe -hint filename.MP4

This adjusts the MP4s metadata to allow for Flash players to play them right away.

You run this program from the command line, so get into Command on your Windows computer.

Jel · 05-01-2012, 03:52 AM

awesome, many thanks - 1 last thing, does Hana play mp4 format ok once these processes are done? Or do I need a different player?

AdultKing · 05-01-2012, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

awesome, many thanks - 1 last thing, does Hana play mp4 format ok once these processes are done? Or do I need a different player?

I use Flowplayer for MP4 files. I am not familiar with Hana as we're happy with Flowplayer so don't explore using anything else.

Jel · 05-01-2012, 04:00 AM

cool, hana played the first converted file fine, but damn, still no splash image ><

AdultKing · 05-01-2012, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

cool, hana played the first converted file fine, but damn, still no splash image ><

IMHO the best splash image is a created splash image. This involves capturing a frame from the video and then saving it as an image.

You can do this with VLC by using the snapshot menu option.

Jel · 05-01-2012, 04:56 AM

yeah, though it's not loading when I set startimage= or splash= in fv/hana :|

Darkhorse · 05-01-2012, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jel

yeah, though it's not loading when I set startimage= or splash= in fv/hana :|

If you want can take a look and see if I can fix that, email is below.

pinkjunky'at'gmail.com

Jel · 05-02-2012, 01:36 AM

Thanks mate, will convert all the content, get it all up etc and give you a shout as and when - much appreciated

Darkhorse · 05-02-2012, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

Thanks mate, will convert all the content, get it all up etc and give you a shout as and when - much appreciated

Not a problem buddy.

Jel · 05-07-2012, 06:19 AM

I suck at the tech... Sent you an email

Jel · 05-17-2012, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing

I don't use Windows but I did some research for you.

MP4Box will run on Windows.

You can download MP4Box for Windows here

http://adultking.co.uk/software/MP4B....6-rev2735.zip

(Note: I did not compile this)

Run the following commands on each file:

MP4Box.exe -inter 500 filename.mp4

This will shift the MOOV atom to the front of the file allowing fast start and pseudo streaming.

MP4Box.exe -hint filename.MP4

This adjusts the MP4s metadata to allow for Flash players to play them right away.

You run this program from the command line, so get into Command on your Windows computer.

Ok couple of issues -

1. converted via handbrake to m4v, no problem there, but then using mp4box & command, with those parameters left videos not loading/playing, so I gave up on that and have no pseudo-streaming (when you can 'fast forward to point x in a video I assume you mean by pesude-streaming?)

2. when viewing on an android smartphone, using my home wifi connection (so speed is/should be fine), the video freezes after a few seconds, though audio continues. Any idea what that problem is?

Jel · 05-17-2012, 11:11 AM

Also; using handbrake to optimize for universal devices/web optimized = it spits it out in m4v, which using mp4box, doesn't do what I need it to do.

Handbrake spitting out in mp4, and then using mp4box means the vids start/pseudo-stream fine on my PC, but not on my mobile device.

Obviously I'm doing something wrong, the question is, what?

AdultKing · 05-17-2012, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

Ok couple of issues -

1. converted via handbrake to m4v, no problem there, but then using mp4box & command, with those parameters left videos not loading/playing, so I gave up on that and have no pseudo-streaming (when you can 'fast forward to point x in a video I assume you mean by pesude-streaming?)

What settings are you using in Handbrake ? It's unlikely that MP4Box will kill the video without reporting an exception.

Quote:

2. when viewing on an android smartphone, using my home wifi connection (so speed is/should be fine), the video freezes after a few seconds, though audio continues. Any idea what that problem is?

What if you play it on another device ?

AdultKing · 05-17-2012, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

Also; using handbrake to optimize for universal devices/web optimized = it spits it out in m4v, which using mp4box, doesn't do what I need it to do.

Handbrake spitting out in mp4, and then using mp4box means the vids start/pseudo-stream fine on my PC, but not on my mobile device.

Obviously I'm doing something wrong, the question is, what?

Use Handbrake for web optimized then simply rename the .m4v files to .mp4 the run MP4Box on them. The file name doesn't matter.

Jel · 05-18-2012, 02:36 AM

Thanks mate;

I did note it kept saying Track ID 3 disabled:

Is that correct?

AdultKing · 05-18-2012, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jel

Thanks mate;

I did note it kept saying Track ID 3 disabled:

Is that correct?

Try not running the -hint option and only using -inter 500 and see if that works.

Jel · 05-18-2012, 03:01 AM

yeah just trying that now as it happens, using the -hint is stopping it from playing at all until it's fully auto-loaded

Jel · 05-18-2012, 03:21 AM

nah can't get it to pseudo-stream at all, no worries.

Jel · 05-18-2012, 03:27 AM

oh, android issue was my phone - for some reason it was playing up, I can view in android now, just gotta check on the iphone, and vids will be able to be played by all, so thanks for that

Jel · 05-28-2012, 08:34 AM

ok so no go on the iphone, could use some help with this. Vids converted from wmv using handbrake, settings 'universal' & 'web optimized', m4v as the output.

Simply rename mp4, or?

Jel · 05-28-2012, 02:31 PM

bump for timezone difference.

Jel · 05-29-2012, 12:45 AM

bump....

Jel · 05-29-2012, 02:07 PM

bump....

Jel · 05-29-2012, 11:58 PM

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tonyparra · 05-30-2012, 12:59 AM

Omg you still having trouble with this ??? Just give me your domain and ill set it up for you

Jel · 05-30-2012, 01:03 AM

not as simple as setting it up (I don't believe, anyway, I could be wrong of course) - the vids aren't playing on ipad/iphone as m4v or mp4. On a desktop & android they play fine.

SGS · 05-30-2012, 01:17 AM

You are not using a Wowza server for the video are you?

Jel · 05-30-2012, 01:25 AM

Hi mate, nope.

04-30-2012, 02:54 AM	#1
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	Any Hana flv/FV Wordpress Flowplayer experts in the house? ok so I'm converting a members area into wordpress & flv vids, and run into the following problems: FV Wordpress Flowplayer: Autoplays videos, no matter what the settings, or specific parameters within the post. I run this on quite a few blogs, with no such problem. Cannot figure out why it insists on auto-starting in this particular instance (wp 3.3.1, theme elements-of-seo) so attempted to use; Hana Flv Player: 1. Can't set a startimage 2. When playing, it brings up the first few lines of html from the tour index and overlays it on the video Now, the html is in another directory entirely (obviously, beings tour is on root) so that one is severely doing my nut in. Anyone have any ideas?

04-30-2012, 03:13 AM	#2
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,601	FV Wordpress Flowplayer has an autoplay parameter [flowplayer src='example.flv' autoplay=true] or [flowplayer src='example.flv' autoplay=false] Why not provide MP4 instead of FLV so a wider selection of users can view them ? Last edited by AdultKing; 04-30-2012 at 03:15 AM..

05-18-2012, 02:36 AM	#37
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	Thanks mate; I did note it kept saying Track ID 3 disabled: Is that correct? Last edited by Jel; 05-18-2012 at 02:38 AM..

05-30-2012, 12:59 AM	#47
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05-30-2012, 01:17 AM	#49
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04-30-2012, 03:19 AM	#3
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	yeah, autoplay is set to false, and even additionally stipulating false within the post doesn't work. I'm thinking it might be the theme actually, basically because I can't think wtf else it can be. I'm not an expert by any means on the best format to use - what are the limitations of flv? I basically went for what youtube use, thinking that's pretty popular, and almost everyone can view youtube; whichmembers/users are not going to be able to view flvs? Thanks

04-30-2012, 03:29 AM	#6
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	ok it was the theme, damn what a pita. and really ipads/flv? There's something I just learned. These people can't see youtube vids?

04-30-2012, 03:37 AM	#9
DamianJ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land Posts: 15,808	[QUOTE=Jel;18916352 and really ipads/flv? There's something I just learned. These people can't see youtube vids?[/QUOTE] Flash doesn't work on any iOS device. h.264 ftw.

04-30-2012, 04:36 AM	#14
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	me no speaky tech. I see hana won't play the mp4 file I just created though '_'

05-01-2012, 03:27 AM	#18
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	thanks mate will have a butchers at that now. Splash image - nope. I'll get this sorted then go from there

05-01-2012, 03:32 AM	#19
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	MP4Box help would be appreciated also

05-01-2012, 03:40 AM	#21
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	ok installed that and YAMB, google search pointed me in the direction of just running it through 'mux' which is what I've done - did I do good, or did I do baaad?

05-01-2012, 03:41 AM	#22
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	ah yep sorry, got mixed up there

05-01-2012, 03:49 AM	#23
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,601	I don't use Windows but I did some research for you. MP4Box will run on Windows. You can download MP4Box for Windows here http://adultking.co.uk/software/MP4B....6-rev2735.zip (Note: I did not compile this) Run the following commands on each file: MP4Box.exe -inter 500 filename.mp4 This will shift the MOOV atom to the front of the file allowing fast start and pseudo streaming. MP4Box.exe -hint filename.MP4 This adjusts the MP4s metadata to allow for Flash players to play them right away. You run this program from the command line, so get into Command on your Windows computer.

05-01-2012, 03:52 AM	#24
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	awesome, many thanks - 1 last thing, does Hana play mp4 format ok once these processes are done? Or do I need a different player?

05-01-2012, 04:00 AM	#26
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	cool, hana played the first converted file fine, but damn, still no splash image ><

05-01-2012, 04:56 AM	#28
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	yeah, though it's not loading when I set startimage= or splash= in fv/hana :\|

05-02-2012, 01:36 AM	#30
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	Thanks mate, will convert all the content, get it all up etc and give you a shout as and when - much appreciated

05-07-2012, 06:19 AM	#32
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	I suck at the tech... Sent you an email

05-17-2012, 11:11 AM	#34
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	Also; using handbrake to optimize for universal devices/web optimized = it spits it out in m4v, which using mp4box, doesn't do what I need it to do. Handbrake spitting out in mp4, and then using mp4box means the vids start/pseudo-stream fine on my PC, but not on my mobile device. Obviously I'm doing something wrong, the question is, what?

05-18-2012, 03:01 AM	#39
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	yeah just trying that now as it happens, using the -hint is stopping it from playing at all until it's fully auto-loaded

05-18-2012, 03:21 AM	#40
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	nah can't get it to pseudo-stream at all, no worries.

05-18-2012, 03:27 AM	#41
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	oh, android issue was my phone - for some reason it was playing up, I can view in android now, just gotta check on the iphone, and vids will be able to be played by all, so thanks for that

05-28-2012, 08:34 AM	#42
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	ok so no go on the iphone, could use some help with this. Vids converted from wmv using handbrake, settings 'universal' & 'web optimized', m4v as the output. Simply rename mp4, or?

05-28-2012, 02:31 PM	#43
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	bump for timezone difference.

05-29-2012, 12:45 AM	#44
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	bump....

05-29-2012, 02:07 PM	#45
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	bump....

05-29-2012, 11:58 PM	#46
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	bump....

05-30-2012, 01:03 AM	#48
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	not as simple as setting it up (I don't believe, anyway, I could be wrong of course) - the vids aren't playing on ipad/iphone as m4v or mp4. On a desktop & android they play fine.

05-30-2012, 01:25 AM	#50
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	Hi mate, nope.