Animal Cruelty.... Do a good deed - GoFuckYourself.com

RottenPug · 02-10-2003, 12:47 PM

With all the animal abuse that goes on just on this board let alone the world. I would like to know if anyone would like to join me as a collective group or as individuals to donate a small amount to the Humane Society. It goes to a GREAT cause and it's a tax writeoff for the people that watch every dime.

Lets be honest most of us donate when webmasters have problems or can't make it to a trade show, this to me is a far better cause.

I will start with a 500.00 donation if you do not want to do this as a group that is fine send something seeing it may save an animals life.

Help something that can't help itself

Libertine · 02-10-2003, 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by RottenPug

Lets be honest most of us donate when webmasters have problems or can't make it to a trade show, this to me is a far better cause.

/me thinks about millions of people starving in Africa vs some dogs and cats

rooster · 02-10-2003, 12:50 PM

africans are starving because they are stupid.

mpegposter · 02-10-2003, 12:51 PM

Yep will definitely kick in some cash. When I was a kid we got all our pets from the local shelters. In my state if you had your pet spayed/neutered and brought them back the slip within 30 days they gave you back all but $5 of your money, gotta love non-profit people with a positive message.

Morgan · 02-10-2003, 12:51 PM

Sup rot! That's really cool of you~! I will signup!

RottenPug · 02-10-2003, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
Sup rot! That's really cool of you~! I will signup!

Thanks boss anything helps...

DarkJedi · 02-10-2003, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by rooster
africans are starving because they are stupid.

aaahahahahahhahahaha !!!

RottenPug · 02-10-2003, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld

/me thinks about millions of people starving in Africa vs some dogs and cats

If you are so concerned with Africa then donate to them.

MetaMan · 02-10-2003, 12:59 PM

save em or deep fry em,

hmm tough call

RottenPug · 02-10-2003, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by MetaMan
save em or deep fry em,

hmm tough call

Mindless twit or jerkoff tough call

MetaMan · 02-10-2003, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by RottenPug

Mindless twit or jerkoff tough call

not sure, u must be both

Libertine · 02-10-2003, 01:04 PM

I just find the concern with animals over other human beings who happen to be from other countries a bit odd.

People here on GFY laugh at videos of people getting stoned to death, seem unaware of the fact that thousands of children are born with hiv each year, joke about millions dying of starvation...

...yet, when a video is posted of a cat getting thrown up in the air people go berserk. When someone says "I might kill a puppy" they get angry. And, to top it off, there are weekly posts asking people to donate for animal shelters and such. While, oddly, the average American pet has a better standard of living than the average child born into this world.

Yes, I think you people are insane, to say the least. And, yes, I donate to quite a few charities.

TDF · 02-10-2003, 01:07 PM

the level of stupidity here boggles my mind....

RottenPug · 02-10-2003, 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
I just find the concern with animals over other human beings who happen to be from other countries a bit odd.

People here on GFY laugh at videos of people getting stoned to death, seem unaware of the fact that thousands of children are born with hiv each year, joke about millions dying of starvation...

...yet, when a video is posted of a cat getting thrown up in the air people go berserk. When someone says "I might kill a puppy" they get angry. And, to top it off, there are weekly posts asking people to donate for animal shelters and such. While, oddly, the average American pet has a better standard of living than the average child born into this world.

Yes, I think you people are insane, to say the least. And, yes, I donate to quite a few charities.

The problem is you have Bill Gates donating billions to other countrys when we can't give people in our own contry jobs and shelter. So let's keep giving money to other countrys then have them kick us out for trying to help. This would be to big of a debate which is was not ment to be. Just if you feel like doing a good deed by all means if not donate to something you feel is a good cause.

Libertine · 02-10-2003, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by RottenPug

The problem is you have Bill Gates donating billions to other countrys when we can't give people in our own contry jobs and shelter. So let's keep giving money to other countrys then have them kick us out for trying to help.

You really lack a clue don't you?

Do you realize that one of the main reasons for the poverty of those countries is that the US and the EU have set up trade barriers making it virtually impossible for those countries to export their products? Do you realize that this also forces them to sell crude resources at low prices, of which the west profits? Do you realize that there is about 95% chance that you own clothes made by children getting paid less than 15 cents an hour? Do you realize that most major companies profit from cheap labor done in these countries at less than 30 cents an hour?

Let me make it simple:

Trade barriers => no export => poverty => forced to deliver cheap crude resources and cheap labor => no chances of viable industry developing

Just for your information, much of our wealth is *derived* from these countries. In most of the cases this is done in ways that can only be described as exploitation.
No, we aren't generous. They are dying *because* of us. We are wealthy *because* of them. Get it?

MetaMan · 02-10-2003, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld

You really lack a clue don't you?

Do you realize that one of the main reasons for the poverty of those countries is that the US and the EU have set up trade barriers making it virtually impossible for those countries to export their products? Do you realize that this also forces them to sell crude resources at low prices, of which the west profits? Do you realize that there is about 95% chance that you own clothes made by children getting paid less than 15 cents an hour? Do you realize that most major companies profit from cheap labor done in these countries at less than 30 cents an hour?

Let me make it simple:

Trade barriers => no export => poverty => forced to deliver cheap crude resources and cheap labor => no chances of viable industry developing

Just for your information, much of our wealth is *derived* from these countries. In most of the cases this is done in ways that can only be described as exploitation.
No, we aren't generous. They are dying *because* of us. We are wealthy *because* of them. Get it?

true in alot of ways but we truly all are hypocrites, everyone,

we will always want the possessions that we find make us happy, so i guess ill be sticking to my big screen tv, if i had one hmm.

p!mpd0g · 02-10-2003, 01:24 PM

what the fuck are you dumb bitches crying about?

The man is asking for a contribution for animals that need help. Id rather help out a poor defensless animal than a stupid human being any day of the week. Fuck the starving kids on the street, fuck the poor stupid africans over on that shithole continent, fuck all the bums on the street. they are there for a reason.

the animals had no choice in the matter, and animals are cute so quit bitching, and show some love for the 4 legged critters.. assholes.

Libertine · 02-10-2003, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by MetaMan

true in alot of ways but we truly all are hypocrites, everyone,

we will always want the possessions that we find make us happy, so i guess ill be sticking to my big screen tv, if i had one hmm.

Well, the problem is that most people don't see the link between this and terrorism. If they'd figure that part out, maybe something would happen.

RottenPug · 02-10-2003, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld

You really lack a clue don't you?

Do you realize that one of the main reasons for the poverty of those countries is that the US and the EU have set up trade barriers making it virtually impossible for those countries to export their products? Do you realize that this also forces them to sell crude resources at low prices, of which the west profits? Do you realize that there is about 95% chance that you own clothes made by children getting paid less than 15 cents an hour? Do you realize that most major companies profit from cheap labor done in these countries at less than 30 cents an hour?

Let me make it simple:

Trade barriers => no export => poverty => forced to deliver cheap crude resources and cheap labor => no chances of viable industry developing

Just for your information, much of our wealth is *derived* from these countries. In most of the cases this is done in ways that can only be described as exploitation.
No, we aren't generous. They are dying *because* of us. We are wealthy *because* of them. Get it?

If I remember correctly you brought Africa up as your starting point which has very little trade sanctions against it. To be honest sanctions which is your term for Trade barriers really doesn't mean a whole lot when the country has nothing to trade. Another words you would like us to develope these countrys?

RottenPug · 02-10-2003, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by p!mpd0g
what the fuck are you dumb bitches crying about?

The man is asking for a contribution for animals that need help. Id rather help out a poor defensless animal than a stupid human being any day of the week. Fuck the starving kids on the street, fuck the poor stupid africans over on that shithole continent, fuck all the bums on the street. they are there for a reason.

the animals had no choice in the matter, and animals are cute so quit bitching, and show some love for the 4 legged critters.. assholes.

Word

Libertine · 02-10-2003, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by RottenPug

If I remember correctly you brought Africa up as your starting point which has very little trade sanctions against it. To be honest sanctions which is your term for Trade barriers really doesn't mean a whole lot when the country has nothing to trade. Another words you would like us to develope these countrys?

Nothing to trade?

Do some research, is all I will say. Oh, and "400%".

Sly_RJ · 02-10-2003, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld

You really lack a clue don't you?

Do you realize that one of the main reasons for the poverty of those countries is that the US and the EU have set up trade barriers making it virtually impossible for those countries to export their products? Do you realize that this also forces them to sell crude resources at low prices, of which the west profits? Do you realize that there is about 95% chance that you own clothes made by children getting paid less than 15 cents an hour? Do you realize that most major companies profit from cheap labor done in these countries at less than 30 cents an hour?

Let me make it simple:

Trade barriers => no export => poverty => forced to deliver cheap crude resources and cheap labor => no chances of viable industry developing

Just for your information, much of our wealth is *derived* from these countries. In most of the cases this is done in ways that can only be described as exploitation.
No, we aren't generous. They are dying *because* of us. We are wealthy *because* of them. Get it?

Trade barriers are set up for a reason. They aren't just created for the hell of it.

And what's preventing them from exporting their products to other countries? Does EVERY country in the world have trade barriers?

I can't believe you're blaming some countries poverty on trade barriers... on top of that, I can't believe you get so pissed at people for giving THEIR time and money to a charity that they feel is important. I think some of the scholarship programs regarding to "race" are absolutely ridiculous, but I'm not going to hound someone for donating THEIR money.

At least some people are still willing to give. Whether you believe it or not, the donations to "stupid charities and organizations" keep them running and benefit everyone in the long run.

--

(Not directed at PW.)

This just really boggles my mind. One day someone tells the US and it's people to mind their own fucking business. The next day, someone tells the US and it's people they should be donating their time and money to other troubled countries instead of cleaning up it's own streets.

Could someone please explain this to me?

Scott McD · 02-10-2003, 01:48 PM

Libertine · 02-10-2003, 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Trade barriers are set up for a reason. They aren't just created for the hell of it.

And what's preventing them from exporting their products to other countries? Does EVERY country in the world have trade barriers?

I can't believe you're blaming some countries poverty on trade barriers... on top of that, I can't believe you get so pissed at people for giving THEIR time and money to a charity that they feel is important. I think some of the scholarship programs regarding to "race" are absolutely ridiculous, but I'm not going to hound someone for donating THEIR money.

At least some people are still willing to give. Whether you believe it or not, the donations to "stupid charities and organizations" keep them running and benefit everyone in the long run.

Trade barriers are indeed set up for a reason. Keeping the rich rich, and the poor poor. Not every country has them, but the rich countries do, the countries that can afford to buy goods.

With these barriers in place, it is simply impossible for most of the poor countries to develop a stable economy.

That is one side of the coin. The other side is that we do squeeze as much profit as possible out of these countries. For instance, we get crude resources for absurdly low prices, or labor for even lower prices. They have no choice but to go along, because not doing so will increase poverty even further.

Now, if these countries set up trade barriers themselves to keep their economy from losing liquids, economic sanctions follow. Thus, they are forced to "participate" in the free market, while they are forbidden to profit from it themselves.

Now, the thing that annoyed me most is not that RottenPug asked for donations for the humane society. It is the part where he said:

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Lets be honest most of us donate when webmasters have problems or can't make it to a trade show, this to me is a far better cause.

Think about that for a moment. He basically says that donating to webmasters isn't a very good cause, so we should give to another cause. Now, what I said is: If you want to give to a "better" cause, why not something that can be considered a far larger problem than stray cats and such?

KRL · 02-10-2003, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by p!mpd0g
what the fuck are you dumb bitches crying about?

The man is asking for a contribution for animals that need help. Id rather help out a poor defensless animal than a stupid human being any day of the week. Fuck the starving kids on the street, fuck the poor stupid africans over on that shithole continent, fuck all the bums on the street. they are there for a reason.

the animals had no choice in the matter, and animals are cute so quit bitching, and show some love for the 4 legged critters.. assholes.

I've been watching the same looking bone thin kids with the same damn flys swarming all over their heads for decades and really think its time somebody tell all these folks that Africa just ain't happening for them and they need to find a new continent to live on.

Same thing with bums, if you can stand on a street corner with your hand out you can go get a job of some kind. I sympathize with the truly extreme cases, but most of these guys just take the handouts and go buy booze with it.

rooster · 02-10-2003, 01:54 PM

get over it. Donating to an organization that protects animals is more important than getting a webmaster to vegas. I watch that show on animal planet about the aspca, and there is a lot of low class people out there that treat their animals like shit.

Libertine · 02-10-2003, 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by KRL

I've been watching the same looking bone thin kids with the same damn flys swarming all over their heads for decades and really think its time somebody tell all these folks that Africa just ain't happening for them and they need to find a new continent to live on.

Immigration laws.

Libertine · 02-10-2003, 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by rooster
get over it. Donating to an organization that protects animals is more important than getting a webmaster to vegas. I watch that show on animal planet about the aspca, and there is a lot of low class people out there that treat their animals like shit.

And donating to an organization that saves human lives is more important than shelter for some animals. Remember, most of you eat animals on a daily basis.

Sly_RJ · 02-10-2003, 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld

Immigration laws.

True.

Look. I always like to get the best bang for my buck. I love to help people, especially when they're straight up and are actually trying to better themselves.

Donating $5, $100, or $10,000 to some African country is not going to solve ANY problems. The problem is so much worse than that. They have no education, no food, no jobs, no stable government.

If you seriously want their lives to change, you need to get in their and restructure their whole government. And even THEN the problems won't just go away, it will take many many years for the new system to "set" and for conditions to actually improve.

I would rather donate my money to a cause that leaves a lasting impression instead of a temporary fix.

RottenPug · 02-10-2003, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

True.

Look. I always like to get the best bang for my buck. I love to help people, especially when they're straight up and are actually trying to better themselves.

Donating $5, $100, or $10,000 to some African country is not going to solve ANY problems. The problem is so much worse than that. They have no education, no food, no jobs, no stable government.

If you seriously want their lives to change, you need to get in their and restructure their whole government. And even THEN the problems won't just go away, it will take many many years for the new system to "set" and for conditions to actually improve.

I would rather donate my money to a cause that leaves a lasting impression instead of a temporary fix.

Well said Sly

Libertine · 02-10-2003, 02:17 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

True.

Look. I always like to get the best bang for my buck. I love to help people, especially when they're straight up and are actually trying to better themselves.

Donating $5, $100, or $10,000 to some African country is not going to solve ANY problems. The problem is so much worse than that. They have no education, no food, no jobs, no stable government.

If you seriously want their lives to change, you need to get in their and restructure their whole government. And even THEN the problems won't just go away, it will take many many years for the new system to "set" and for conditions to actually improve.

I would rather donate my money to a cause that leaves a lasting impression instead of a temporary fix.

With only a few hundred bucks you can save a child's life in Africa, even get him some education and with that the chance to bring improvement to his country.

twistyneck · 02-10-2003, 03:22 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld

With only a few hundred bucks you can save a child's life in Africa, even get him some education and with that the chance to bring improvement to his country.

Yeah, but that same few hundred bucks could also buy me a snazzy new X Box or something.

Scott McD · 02-10-2003, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld

With only a few hundred bucks you can save a child's life in Africa, even get him some education and with that the chance to bring improvement to his country.

Only to grow up, have 8 kids, and then help is needed to feed / educate all of them...

It can never end in those places...

Backov · 02-10-2003, 03:36 PM

It's kind of rock and hard place for these african countries.. They're poor for various reasons, one of which is there's just too many of them for the area to support. However, child mortality rates make it so that if you want to have kids that survive, you've got to have lots of them.

I don't believe there's a good solution for Africa that can be imposed from outside, they've gotta do it theirselves.

As for our own charities, I think that until there's no longer sane homeless people (ie, people who don't want to be homeless) - then we should not be sending money to help people in other countries. Think what a couple billion in "foreign aid" money a year would do to get the homeless off the streets, and in some cases, clean and sober.

Cheers,
Backov

jeroman · 02-10-2003, 03:44 PM

I would rather spend my money giving 1 million little kids
from Iraq some bread and basic medicin.
But that would be stupid of me since you are going
to kill them anyway !!

So I guess I send the money to some other really pure
Arab countries instead, But hey, then I will be taken for
a terrorist and all my revenue will be frozen by the banks !!

Oh, well, still theres some children and folks in the US
that is out of a job I could give the money to.
They are soon to be dead because the have no food
and no medicin and they have to take chelter every now
and then so not a bomb fall on them or some gerilla forces
cut of their heads. But then again that is not true for the
people in the US so I guess I wont let them have the money.

Oh, hell - I'm in. Lets give the money to a cat instead so
it doesnt gets fucked by a evil man with a website.

02-10-2003, 12:47 PM	#1
RottenPug Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NewYork Posts: 456	Animal Cruelty.... Do a good deed With all the animal abuse that goes on just on this board let alone the world. I would like to know if anyone would like to join me as a collective group or as individuals to donate a small amount to the Humane Society. It goes to a GREAT cause and it's a tax writeoff for the people that watch every dime. Lets be honest most of us donate when webmasters have problems or can't make it to a trade show, this to me is a far better cause. I will start with a 500.00 donation if you do not want to do this as a group that is fine send something seeing it may save an animals life. Help something that can't help itself __________________ Promote Longz - Highest Paying Pill Sponsor Now Offering a DVD!

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mpegposter Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Tri-State Posts: 483	Yep will definitely kick in some cash. When I was a kid we got all our pets from the local shelters. In my state if you had your pet spayed/neutered and brought them back the slip within 30 days they gave you back all but $5 of your money, gotta love non-profit people with a positive message. __________________ The voice of the Moral Minority. New Sponsor Converting Like Hell!

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02-10-2003, 01:04 PM	#12
Libertine sex dwarf Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 17,860	I just find the concern with animals over other human beings who happen to be from other countries a bit odd. People here on GFY laugh at videos of people getting stoned to death, seem unaware of the fact that thousands of children are born with hiv each year, joke about millions dying of starvation... ...yet, when a video is posted of a cat getting thrown up in the air people go berserk. When someone says "I might kill a puppy" they get angry. And, to top it off, there are weekly posts asking people to donate for animal shelters and such. While, oddly, the average American pet has a better standard of living than the average child born into this world. Yes, I think you people are insane, to say the least. And, yes, I donate to quite a few charities. __________________ /(bb\|[^b]{2})/

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02-10-2003, 12:50 PM	#3
rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	africans are starving because they are stupid.

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MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	save em or deep fry em, hmm tough call

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p!mpd0g So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 202	what the fuck are you dumb bitches crying about? The man is asking for a contribution for animals that need help. Id rather help out a poor defensless animal than a stupid human being any day of the week. Fuck the starving kids on the street, fuck the poor stupid africans over on that shithole continent, fuck all the bums on the street. they are there for a reason. the animals had no choice in the matter, and animals are cute so quit bitching, and show some love for the 4 legged critters.. assholes.

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02-10-2003, 01:54 PM	#26
rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	get over it. Donating to an organization that protects animals is more important than getting a webmaster to vegas. I watch that show on animal planet about the aspca, and there is a lot of low class people out there that treat their animals like shit.

02-10-2003, 03:36 PM	#34
Backov Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cat Detector Van Posts: 1,600	It's kind of rock and hard place for these african countries.. They're poor for various reasons, one of which is there's just too many of them for the area to support. However, child mortality rates make it so that if you want to have kids that survive, you've got to have lots of them. I don't believe there's a good solution for Africa that can be imposed from outside, they've gotta do it theirselves. As for our own charities, I think that until there's no longer sane homeless people (ie, people who don't want to be homeless) - then we should not be sending money to help people in other countries. Think what a couple billion in "foreign aid" money a year would do to get the homeless off the streets, and in some cases, clean and sober. Cheers, Backov __________________ <embed src="http://banners.spotbrokers.com/button.swf" FlashVars="clickURL=http://banners.spotbrokers.com" quality=high pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="120" height="60"></embed>

02-10-2003, 03:44 PM	#35
jeroman So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Norway or UK or...damn, where am I Posts: 356	I would rather spend my money giving 1 million little kids from Iraq some bread and basic medicin. But that would be stupid of me since you are going to kill them anyway !! So I guess I send the money to some other really pure Arab countries instead, But hey, then I will be taken for a terrorist and all my revenue will be frozen by the banks !! Oh, well, still theres some children and folks in the US that is out of a job I could give the money to. They are soon to be dead because the have no food and no medicin and they have to take chelter every now and then so not a bomb fall on them or some gerilla forces cut of their heads. But then again that is not true for the people in the US so I guess I wont let them have the money. Oh, hell - I'm in. Lets give the money to a cat instead so it doesnt gets fucked by a evil man with a website.