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Old 04-20-2012, 05:13 PM   #1
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Kim Dotcom / Megaupload To Get Off On Procedural Error

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10800409

Judge O'Grady raised the prospect of there being no trial while hearing arguments over FBI applications to wipe Megaupload's vast database of members' files.

He said further study needed to be made of the failure to serve Megaupload, adding; "I frankly don't know that we are ever going to have a trial in this matter."

He said the arguments around the future of the data on the 1100 computers servers seized from Megaupload could be "premature". He wanted more information on why Megaupload had not been served.

Dotcom's US-based lawyer, Ira Rothken, said it was the defence's understanding that it was not legally possible for Megaupload to be served with papers accusing it of criminal acts.
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Old 04-20-2012, 05:37 PM   #2
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Old 04-20-2012, 05:52 PM   #3
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nice slap in the face for the fbi, or is that the music industry, what would they do now? Probably think up another SOPA law and blame it on this
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:15 PM   #4
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nice slap in the face for the fbi, or is that the music industry, what would they do now? Probably think up another SOPA law and blame it on this
And most probably get one this time around for just this reason.
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:16 PM   #5
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:17 PM   #6
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I know he did not do us guys any favours.

I know he is one arrogant, foul and ugly SOB.

I know all that, but I kinda hope he just vanishes into the sunset with a few quid in his pocket and we never hear from him again.

Not one of us has balls big enough to do what he did - You would not be wasting your time reading this shit if you did.....
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:31 PM   #7
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nice slap in the face for the fbi, or is that the music industry, what would they do now? Probably think up another SOPA law and blame it on this
I'm pretty sure I postded somewhere on gfy that this case was anexample to show why sopa was not needed.. it shows perfectly how the government can go after anyone anywhere when they wish to do so but even that doesn't guarantee guilty.
This is a perfect example to show why sopa could be bad for anyone against sopa.

If they wanted to demonstrate by example they could have taken out 100s of sites for the same cost AND gotten easy convictions because people could not afford defending themself
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:36 PM   #8
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nice slap in the face for the fbi, or is that the music industry, what would they do now? Probably think up another SOPA law and blame it on this
They will get him sooner or later.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:43 PM   #9
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I know he did not do us guys any favours.

I know he is one arrogant, foul and ugly SOB.

I know all that, but I kinda hope he just vanishes into the sunset with a few quid in his pocket and we never hear from him again.

Not one of us has balls big enough to do what he did - You would not be wasting your time reading this shit if you did.....
And not one of us have big enough balls to rob banks, take part in genocide, or start a Ponzi scheme... Do you envy people that live their lives in a reprehensible kind of way?
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:00 PM   #10
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And not one of us have big enough balls to rob banks, take part in genocide, or start a Ponzi scheme... Do you envy people that live their lives in a reprehensible kind of way?
OK - The last bit came out wrong - but genocide - really?

He did not do what he did without some 'respectable' money and backup.

Any of them taking the fall with him?
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OK - The last bit came out wrong - but genocide - really?

He did not do what he did without some 'respectable' money and backup.

Any of them taking the fall with him?
I don't see anything to respect in regards to Kim Schmitz. We can all take part in illegal acts, we can march right into Nordstrom and steal everything on the shelves and sell everything in front of their doorstep for 10% of their cost... and rake them over the coals. Pro-piracy douches will have our backs saying "this shit should be free..." and "the only reason we're doing this is because of corporate greed..." and we'll garner the support of everyone who opposes government regulation.

I'm sure we'll be the envy of everyone poor person on earth who's ever felt like they got the short end of the stick when it came to the economic gravy-train. Does that mean we should stoop to that level?

Let's all kill people... fuck. We can. Nobody can stop us. Seriously... when do we take accountability for our actions? Can society function when everyone's a bloody fucking sociopath?
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:28 PM   #12
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They already ruined him. This was all done so people bought into apples cloud system and soon googles.

They delay him another 2-3 months its irrelevant anyway. Hes lost the income, lost the servers, lost his clients, etc etc

Good luck suiing the fbi
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:49 PM   #13
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They already ruined him. This was all done so people bought into apples cloud system and soon googles.
That's quite the conspiracy theory.

Ever think they may want to get someone who is doing something legitimately wrong? No, no... that's impossible... certainly that could not be happening.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:40 PM   #14
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if he really did offer content owners the ability to go in and delete files themselves, then a case against him based on just the service being used for piracy is pretty weak. Otherwise we'll have to sue ISP CEOs for what people do on their network!

People use cars to kill other people all the time, or knives. We don't arrest car manufacturer CEOs, but go after the person who does the act. No difference

There's something to be said about the artists who support(ed) him and the timing of the raid right before he was going to launch a music label that would've turned the industry on its head

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Old 04-21-2012, 12:02 AM   #15
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This shows clearly that the old laws on copyright infringement are not working as far as the Internet is concerned.

Either Governments give up on protecting copyright or they really sit down and think of ways they can curb it.

Giving up of course means a huge loss of income for creators.

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They already ruined him. This was all done so people bought into apples cloud system and soon googles.

They delay him another 2-3 months its irrelevant anyway. Hes lost the income, lost the servers, lost his clients, etc etc

Good luck suiing the fbi
I could only wish it was so, but the reality is that MU type of sites blow with traffic overnight whenever they're put online - if Dotcom walks free on procedural error and gets his domain back he'll recover his traffic and cash flow in no time.
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And not one of us have big enough balls to rob banks, take part in genocide, or start a Ponzi scheme... Do you envy people that live their lives in a reprehensible kind of way?
do you understand the difference between something that is proven to be illegal
and something that is claimed to illegal

that case was weak to begin with

The government argued that you were only entitled to safe harbor if you destroyed the original file rather then infringing access.

If true would mean that the only way a back up provider could keep safe harbor was to destroy your backup rather then simply change the password (access).

60% of the files were only download 1 or less (clearly backup)
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i do believe i can be quoted as posting he would get off on technicality from day one.
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