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Old 04-16-2012, 03:57 PM   #1
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Difference between tax evasion and just not paying your taxes?

Makes no sense, if you get caught lying/hiding shit on your taxes you go to jail but when you just ignore filing taxes you just get fined?
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with evasion you were lying/dishonest, the other just late.
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With evasion you have falsely signed a federal document you are guaranteeing is true.
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Makes no sense, if you get caught lying/hiding shit on your taxes you go to jail but when you just ignore filing taxes you just get fined?
I did a little bit in federal person for something a little more series (counterfeiting), but anything less of that you should pay your taxes. This drug dealer I used to hang out with in New York said "Uncle Sam will let you do a lot of things, but he won't let you fuck with his money". I kind of owe him that quote in my next screenplay LOL.
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Intention is a big factor in severity of crimes. Think of murder versus manslaughter.
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I did a little bit in federal person for something a little more series (counterfeiting),
Pirating US currency.

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Pirating US currency.

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That's not the official charge when you have printing presses and stuff, but however you want to look at it is okay with me
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I did a little bit in federal person for something a little more series (counterfeiting)

How about some tips?
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Friday's edition of the Middlesex News, reported that a negative and printing plate with $20 bill images on them were thrown into a waste basket in clear view of other employees.

"Anyone who would use a newspaper press of any kind, even a small one like this, which is a glorified mimeograph machine, is not too swift," Editor Kenneth Hartnett said in an interview.
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Friday's edition of the Middlesex News, reported that a negative and printing plate with $20 bill images on them were thrown into a waste basket in clear view of other employees.

"Anyone who would use a newspaper press of any kind, even a small one like this, which is a glorified mimeograph machine, is not too swift," Editor Kenneth Hartnett said in an interview.
Holy fucking shit, dude! See I wasn't lying. who the fuck are you? This is me on the first count. Rap 1

Where did you get this info? Cause I have been looking it up
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there is actually way more to it, but wondering how you were smart enough to make the link
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Holy fucking shit, dude! See I wasn't lying. who the fuck are you? This is me on the first count. Rap 1

Where did you get this info? Cause I have been looking it up
so you get the min 15 years like they said or what?
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bet you regret that weekend heh.
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bet you regret that weekend heh.
It's a long fucking story dude and very funny. We could write a screenplay, (which I already wrote one and sold) but you arent' giving me any extra info.

I love what you found out but if that's all you have, just out of spite I won't give you any fun with an even funnier story about the real deal
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bet you regret that weekend heh.
I dont' even kind of regret it. That's how funny this story is. and I got charged again and did federal time next
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bet you regret that weekend heh.
I am actually amazed I bumped into a guy who has legit info about me, but a lot of it is inaccurate, but the info that you do have makes me know you know stuff is all I can say. We can talk private if you have the issue
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Intention is a big factor in severity of crimes. Think of murder versus manslaughter.
Correct fine sire.

Whether it's the letter of the law, or bullshit accusations allegations on GFY, it really comes down to "malice". Which is the knowing, willful intent, to defraud. Most of the time there is no actual malice involved.

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Anyways, thanks for your help. I was counterfeiting and you'll never know the real story until I write it, but at least this amazing coinciendance let you guys know I'm not shitting. In case you don't know, that was round one.

Round two did me Raybrook and I was much, much better
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Did you pay the $2,000 bail with your money or theirs, lol. That's hilarious dude.

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Correct fine sire.

Whether it's the letter of the law, or bullshit accusations allegations on GFY, it really comes down to "malice". Which is the knowing, willful intent, to defraud. Most of the time there is no actual malice involved.

I already served my time. You fuckers need to be glancing back over your shoulders.
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Did you pay the $2,000 bail with your money or theirs, lol. That's hilarious dude.

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Who the fuck even know what you're talking about. The mob would have more respect for me in their than your pimp ass (internet or not) Lets both check it out and see.
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Who the fuck even know what you're talking about. The mob would have more respect for me in their than your pimp ass (internet or not) Lets both check it out and see.
Calm down YOU are the one that brought it up. And I'm just fucking with you.

But that was the amount of bail wasn't it?

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Friday's edition of the Middlesex News, reported that a negative and printing plate with $20 bill images on them were thrown into a waste basket in clear view of other employees.

"Anyone who would use a newspaper press of any kind, even a small one like this, which is a glorified mimeograph machine, is not too swift," Editor Kenneth Hartnett said in an interview.
You have no clue what you are talking about, but you found something I want to know about and I will give you more info if you show me where and what it is.

I've already sold a screenplay. I'm not going to do this again but this is pretty funny so I want to know the whole deal
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check your email.
Is that for real though. Cause I was trying to get the same info and dates are off and shit so if you can give me a link, too cool.

I'm a little hostile now for now reason really cause it was carried on too long.

Anyway you have my email so I will give you a funny story about it when I have a link to info

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I think I am about to bust. I am very bored LOL
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So I guess my printing industry jobs are now officially DOA LOL
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Awesome attorney and a frame up and 18 months offered knowing false evidence was planted.
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when you plant the shit on someone, even if they were doing it, you don't really want that in court and since it was a second office and they only wanted 18 months I was totally willing to take the deal.

But now I am totally straight and trying to live a california life style.
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There is NO law that obligates anyone in the United States to pay his or income tax.

Many have beat this in court by simply making the jury understand that there is no written law that obligates a US citizen to pay his or her income tax. 16th amendment
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Many have beat this in court by simply making the jury understand that there is no written law that obligates a US citizen to pay his or her income tax. 16th amendment
How about a few examples/links before I send in next quarters check.

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Many have beat this in court by simply making the jury understand that there is no written law that obligates a US citizen to pay his or her income tax. 16th amendment
Yeah, Good luck with that. Just duck when Ruby Ridge and Waco come your way

And it's worse when democrats are in office cause they are against the right which tax evasion is considered part of
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Many have beat this in court by simply making the jury understand that there is no written law that obligates a US citizen to pay his or her income tax. 16th amendment
Perhaps Wesley Snipes could chime in on that one.

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If I'm not mistaken you only have to report your income, owing taxes is not against the law. Its not anything I confirmed anywhere, I think I just stumpled over some article about that some time ago
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If any of this "no tax" bs was true it would be all over the news and internet. No one would be paying shit and we would be in a deeper hole than we currently are. Don't ya think?

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If I'm not mistaken you only have to report your income, owing taxes is not against the law.
Once you start practicing what you preach, please come back here and update us.

I think many of us have heard the stories about the people who supposedly beat the system. However, for everyone one of those rumors, there are hundreds sitting in jail, losing their house, etc..

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Paying taxes is voluntary. The first time you volunteer you are in the system and therefore obligated from this point on. Like many other "legal" things you are tricked into giving up your "lawful" rights. I could go into a very lengthy discussion about this but my girl is wanting sex so maybe tomorrow.
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If I'm not mistaken you only have to report your income, owing taxes is not against the law. Its not anything I confirmed anywhere, I think I just stumpled over some article about that some time ago

Owing isn't a crime, I don't think, they just eventually take your stuff if you make no effort to pay. Most people who owe are probably more or less broke and that's not a crime. The IRS is allowed to do things other creditors can't legally do, so owing them is a bad idea. For example, they can pull money right out of your bank account. It's just not as bad as trying to defraud them by filing a false return or hiding assets.

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What did you do in the federal person? Did you creampie the federal person?

Was it a male or a female federal person?
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You are that kind of criminal who really wants to brag about what they're doing(or did). You know - the shitty kind. I can tell cause you won't shut up about yourself and almost no one is asking you questions.
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pretty easy since you like giving out info
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Actually if you don't pay your taxes, I think the new penalty is that you are appointed Secretary of the Treasury, White house staff member, congressman, or senator.




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You are an idiot. There are tons of laws that say we have to pay taxes.
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the difference is the government weighs in on whether it is worth it to go after you or not.. you make burgers and fries wages they wont even bother.. you own the franchise? they are coming after you guns blazing. (no not literally)
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you own the franchise? they are coming after you guns blazing. (no not literally)
Though eventually they will LITERALLY pull out guns, and that's important to keep in mind. First they send you letters. Still refuse, they send a subpoena. If you still don't pay, they send the guys with guns in.

Why do I say that's important? Because when it comes to tax dollars, "we should support solar energy" really means "the government should take your money, at gunpoint if necessary, and give it to the guys who own Solyndra." The fact that taxes = taking someones paycheck, at gunpoint if they refuse, means we should be awefully careful what we have taxes for. I vote "no" on pretty much all local tax-supported spending because I don't think it's right to take someone's grocery money at gunpoint in order to subsidize ANY company, or do anything that isn't absolutely necessary for society to function.

Last edited by raymor; 04-17-2012 at 09:56 AM..
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