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Mutt 04-16-2012 03:57 PM

Difference between tax evasion and just not paying your taxes?
 
Makes no sense, if you get caught lying/hiding shit on your taxes you go to jail but when you just ignore filing taxes you just get fined?

porno jew 04-16-2012 04:00 PM

with evasion you were lying/dishonest, the other just late.

L-Pink 04-16-2012 04:06 PM

With evasion you have falsely signed a federal document you are guaranteeing is true.

smutnut 04-16-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18890515)
Makes no sense, if you get caught lying/hiding shit on your taxes you go to jail but when you just ignore filing taxes you just get fined?

I did a little bit in federal person for something a little more series (counterfeiting), but anything less of that you should pay your taxes. This drug dealer I used to hang out with in New York said "Uncle Sam will let you do a lot of things, but he won't let you fuck with his money". I kind of owe him that quote in my next screenplay LOL.

Sly 04-16-2012 04:07 PM

Intention is a big factor in severity of crimes. Think of murder versus manslaughter.

L-Pink 04-16-2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18890538)
I did a little bit in federal person for something a little more series (counterfeiting),

Pirating US currency.

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smutnut 04-16-2012 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18890543)
Pirating US currency.

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That's not the official charge when you have printing presses and stuff, but however you want to look at it is okay with me

SuckOnThis 04-16-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18890538)
I did a little bit in federal person for something a little more series (counterfeiting)


How about some tips?

porno jew 04-16-2012 04:45 PM

Friday's edition of the Middlesex News, reported that a negative and printing plate with $20 bill images on them were thrown into a waste basket in clear view of other employees.

"Anyone who would use a newspaper press of any kind, even a small one like this, which is a glorified mimeograph machine, is not too swift," Editor Kenneth Hartnett said in an interview.

smutnut 04-16-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18890605)
Friday's edition of the Middlesex News, reported that a negative and printing plate with $20 bill images on them were thrown into a waste basket in clear view of other employees.

"Anyone who would use a newspaper press of any kind, even a small one like this, which is a glorified mimeograph machine, is not too swift," Editor Kenneth Hartnett said in an interview.

Holy fucking shit, dude! See I wasn't lying. who the fuck are you? This is me on the first count. Rap 1

Where did you get this info? Cause I have been looking it up

keysync 04-16-2012 04:48 PM

Gfy users are a colorful bunch that's for sure! :thumbsup

smutnut 04-16-2012 04:50 PM

there is actually way more to it, but wondering how you were smart enough to make the link

porno jew 04-16-2012 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18890608)
Holy fucking shit, dude! See I wasn't lying. who the fuck are you? This is me on the first count. Rap 1

Where did you get this info? Cause I have been looking it up

so you get the min 15 years like they said or what?

porno jew 04-16-2012 04:51 PM

bet you regret that weekend heh.

smutnut 04-16-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18890616)
bet you regret that weekend heh.

It's a long fucking story dude and very funny. We could write a screenplay, (which I already wrote one and sold) but you arent' giving me any extra info.

I love what you found out but if that's all you have, just out of spite I won't give you any fun with an even funnier story about the real deal

smutnut 04-16-2012 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18890616)
bet you regret that weekend heh.

I dont' even kind of regret it. That's how funny this story is. and I got charged again and did federal time next

smutnut 04-16-2012 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18890616)
bet you regret that weekend heh.

I am actually amazed I bumped into a guy who has legit info about me, but a lot of it is inaccurate, but the info that you do have makes me know you know stuff is all I can say. We can talk private if you have the issue

Barefootsies 04-16-2012 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 18890541)
Intention is a big factor in severity of crimes. Think of murder versus manslaughter.

Correct fine sire.

Whether it's the letter of the law, or bullshit accusations allegations on GFY, it really comes down to "malice". Which is the knowing, willful intent, to defraud. Most of the time there is no actual malice involved.

:2 cents:

smutnut 04-16-2012 05:03 PM

Anyways, thanks for your help. I was counterfeiting and you'll never know the real story until I write it, but at least this amazing coinciendance let you guys know I'm not shitting. In case you don't know, that was round one.

Round two did me Raybrook and I was much, much better

L-Pink 04-16-2012 05:04 PM

Did you pay the $2,000 bail with your money or theirs, lol. That's hilarious dude.

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smutnut 04-16-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 18890628)
Correct fine sire.

Whether it's the letter of the law, or bullshit accusations allegations on GFY, it really comes down to "malice". Which is the knowing, willful intent, to defraud. Most of the time there is no actual malice involved.

:2 cents:

I already served my time. You fuckers need to be glancing back over your shoulders.

smutnut 04-16-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18890631)
Did you pay the $2,000 bail with your money or theirs, lol. That's hilarious dude.

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Who the fuck even know what you're talking about. The mob would have more respect for me in their than your pimp ass (internet or not) Lets both check it out and see.

L-Pink 04-16-2012 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18890634)
Who the fuck even know what you're talking about. The mob would have more respect for me in their than your pimp ass (internet or not) Lets both check it out and see.

Calm down YOU are the one that brought it up. And I'm just fucking with you. :winkwink:

But that was the amount of bail wasn't it?

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smutnut 04-16-2012 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18890543)
Pirating US currency.

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Try manufacturing, busted with the whole damn set up, way before you loser could do it clicking the computer screen LOL :1orglaugh

Sly 04-16-2012 05:34 PM

This thread is now complete.

smutnut 04-16-2012 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18890605)
Friday's edition of the Middlesex News, reported that a negative and printing plate with $20 bill images on them were thrown into a waste basket in clear view of other employees.

"Anyone who would use a newspaper press of any kind, even a small one like this, which is a glorified mimeograph machine, is not too swift," Editor Kenneth Hartnett said in an interview.

You have no clue what you are talking about, but you found something I want to know about and I will give you more info if you show me where and what it is.

I've already sold a screenplay. I'm not going to do this again but this is pretty funny so I want to know the whole deal

porno jew 04-16-2012 05:39 PM

check your email.

smutnut 04-16-2012 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18890700)
check your email.

Is that for real though. Cause I was trying to get the same info and dates are off and shit so if you can give me a link, too cool.

I'm a little hostile now for now reason really cause it was carried on too long.

Anyway you have my email so I will give you a funny story about it when I have a link to info

smutnut 04-16-2012 05:50 PM

I think I am about to bust. I am very bored LOL

smutnut 04-16-2012 05:51 PM

So I guess my printing industry jobs are now officially DOA LOL

livexxx 04-16-2012 05:57 PM

difference is 15yrs or a good attorney

smutnut 04-16-2012 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by livexxx (Post 18890740)
difference is 15yrs or a good attorney

Awesome attorney and a frame up and 18 months offered knowing false evidence was planted.

DWB 04-16-2012 07:04 PM

Just be a good little slave and pay your master. You don't want to anger him.

smutnut 04-16-2012 07:06 PM

when you plant the shit on someone, even if they were doing it, you don't really want that in court and since it was a second office and they only wanted 18 months I was totally willing to take the deal.

But now I am totally straight and trying to live a california life style.

Radical Bucks 04-16-2012 07:09 PM

There is NO law that obligates anyone in the United States to pay his or income tax.

Many have beat this in court by simply making the jury understand that there is no written law that obligates a US citizen to pay his or her income tax. 16th amendment

L-Pink 04-16-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Radical Bucks (Post 18890857)
There is NO law that obligates anyone in the United States to pay his or income tax.

Many have beat this in court by simply making the jury understand that there is no written law that obligates a US citizen to pay his or her income tax. 16th amendment

How about a few examples/links before I send in next quarters check.

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smutnut 04-16-2012 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks (Post 18890857)
There is NO law that obligates anyone in the United States to pay his or income tax.

Many have beat this in court by simply making the jury understand that there is no written law that obligates a US citizen to pay his or her income tax. 16th amendment

Yeah, Good luck with that. Just duck when Ruby Ridge and Waco come your way :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

And it's worse when democrats are in office cause they are against the right which tax evasion is considered part of

Barefootsies 04-16-2012 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks (Post 18890857)
There is NO law that obligates anyone in the United States to pay his or income tax.

Many have beat this in court by simply making the jury understand that there is no written law that obligates a US citizen to pay his or her income tax. 16th amendment

Perhaps Wesley Snipes could chime in on that one.

:2 cents:

Due 04-16-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18890936)
How about a few examples/links before I send in next quarters check.

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If I'm not mistaken you only have to report your income, owing taxes is not against the law. Its not anything I confirmed anywhere, I think I just stumpled over some article about that some time ago

L-Pink 04-16-2012 08:21 PM

If any of this "no tax" bs was true it would be all over the news and internet. No one would be paying shit and we would be in a deeper hole than we currently are. Don't ya think?

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Barefootsies 04-16-2012 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Due (Post 18890954)
If I'm not mistaken you only have to report your income, owing taxes is not against the law.

Once you start practicing what you preach, please come back here and update us.

I think many of us have heard the stories about the people who supposedly beat the system. However, for everyone one of those rumors, there are hundreds sitting in jail, losing their house, etc..

:2 cents:

onwebcam 04-16-2012 08:31 PM

Paying taxes is voluntary. The first time you volunteer you are in the system and therefore obligated from this point on. Like many other "legal" things you are tricked into giving up your "lawful" rights. I could go into a very lengthy discussion about this but my girl is wanting sex so maybe tomorrow.

raymor 04-16-2012 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Due (Post 18890954)
If I'm not mistaken you only have to report your income, owing taxes is not against the law. Its not anything I confirmed anywhere, I think I just stumpled over some article about that some time ago


Owing isn't a crime, I don't think, they just eventually take your stuff if you make no effort to pay. Most people who owe are probably more or less broke and that's not a crime. The IRS is allowed to do things other creditors can't legally do, so owing them is a bad idea. For example, they can pull money right out of your bank account. It's just not as bad as trying to defraud them by filing a false return or hiding assets.

Mr Pheer 04-16-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18890538)
I did a little bit in federal person

What did you do in the federal person? Did you creampie the federal person?

Was it a male or a female federal person?

OverdueNudes 04-16-2012 09:06 PM

You are that kind of criminal who really wants to brag about what they're doing(or did). You know - the shitty kind. I can tell cause you won't shut up about yourself and almost no one is asking you questions.

ottopottomouse 04-17-2012 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by smutnut (Post 18890613)
there is actually way more to it, but wondering how you were smart enough to make the link

pretty easy since you like giving out info

sperbonzo 04-17-2012 05:34 AM

Actually if you don't pay your taxes, I think the new penalty is that you are appointed Secretary of the Treasury, White house staff member, congressman, or senator.




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slapass 04-17-2012 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks (Post 18890857)
There is NO law that obligates anyone in the United States to pay his or income tax.

Many have beat this in court by simply making the jury understand that there is no written law that obligates a US citizen to pay his or her income tax. 16th amendment

You are an idiot. There are tons of laws that say we have to pay taxes.

PR_Glen 04-17-2012 06:55 AM

the difference is the government weighs in on whether it is worth it to go after you or not.. you make burgers and fries wages they wont even bother.. you own the franchise? they are coming after you guns blazing. (no not literally)

raymor 04-17-2012 09:55 AM

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you own the franchise? they are coming after you guns blazing. (no not literally)
Though eventually they will LITERALLY pull out guns, and that's important to keep in mind. First they send you letters. Still refuse, they send a subpoena. If you still don't pay, they send the guys with guns in.

Why do I say that's important? Because when it comes to tax dollars, "we should support solar energy" really means "the government should take your money, at gunpoint if necessary, and give it to the guys who own Solyndra." The fact that taxes = taking someones paycheck, at gunpoint if they refuse, means we should be awefully careful what we have taxes for. I vote "no" on pretty much all local tax-supported spending because I don't think it's right to take someone's grocery money at gunpoint in order to subsidize ANY company, or do anything that isn't absolutely necessary for society to function.


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