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Old 04-24-2012, 02:11 PM   #1
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Question for eBay sellers

eBay recently instituted a holding period for newer sellers. Sellers will not receive their money until X amount of days have passed, I think 21.

There are a number of requirements that must be met to take this hold off. The one requirement I am stuck on is amount of feedback. You need a minimum of 25 feedback. I have 12. I sell very high ticket items, so my volume is very low.

To get around this I can start selling cheap items. This is doable but a lot of work and time will be involved.

My question is, if I purchase 13 cheap items and get good feedback from those, would that count towards my minimum of 25?
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Old 04-24-2012, 02:19 PM   #2
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Not sure. I'd ask eBay on their live support.
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Old 04-24-2012, 02:26 PM   #3
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so it's either wait 21 days or get 25 feedback, whichever comes first? or is it a combination of both? i don't see why selling small priced items wouldn't count towards that limit. feedback is feedback. if you can't wait the 21 days you could just get 12 of your friends to bid on 12 fake auctions and leave you positive feedback :P. good luck.

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Old 04-24-2012, 02:39 PM   #4
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so it's either wait 21 days or get 25 feedback, whichever comes first? or is it a combination of both? i don't see why selling small priced items wouldn't count towards that limit. feedback is feedback. if you can't wait the 21 days you could just get 12 of your friends to bid on 12 fake auctions and leave you positive feedback :P. good luck.
Small priced items do count, that's just a lot of work. The fake auction might be the easiest idea, I would only be stuck paying the commissions on the cheap fake auction.
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Old 04-24-2012, 02:40 PM   #5
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Firstly, those thresholds (ie. 25 feedback) are variable and not reliable; not set in stone.

To speed up / avoid a hold is to ship with tracking, such as USPS Delivery Confirmation (not the same as insurance or return receipt; don't use those), UPS tracking number, etc that can be checked on-line.

After shipping, copy and paste the tracking number into eBay for that order - if unsure how, see eBay help pages for more details.

And encourage, though don't pester (to avoid risk of negative feedback), the buyer to leave positive feedback - that along with the shipping tracking data, as explained above, will often result in a rapid hold release.
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Old 04-24-2012, 02:43 PM   #6
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Firstly, those thresholds (ie. 25 feedback) are variable and not reliable; not set in stone.

To speed up / avoid a hold is to ship with tracking, such as USPS Delivery Confirmation (not the same as insurance or return receipt; don't use those), UPS tracking number, etc that can be checked on-line.

After shipping, copy and paste the tracking number into eBay for that order - if unsure how, see eBay help pages for more details.

And encourage, though don't pester (to avoid risk of negative feedback), the buyer to leave positive feedback - that along with the shipping tracking data, as explained above, will often result in a rapid hold release.
I have done all of that. The money is still on hold for several weeks.

I have an item that will be delivered tomorrow, the money release date is not until May 15.
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Old 04-24-2012, 02:46 PM   #7
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Unless the rules say "feedbacj on pretends priced over $X, I would assume it simply counts feedback. Included of course you fo this:

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Not sure. I'd ask eBay on their live support.
If you actually ask them "is it okay if I game your system by selling a bunch of $1 iems before posting my real stuff?" that might get their attention. Just sell your old cell phones or whatever you have laying around for $5 and don't bring their attention to it, I'd say. This is of course assuming you'll be a good seller and get good feedback on your higher end items too. Obviously I wouldn't encourage sidestepping the intent of the rules for nefarious purposes.
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Old 04-24-2012, 03:55 PM   #8
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:16 PM   #9
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eBay recently instituted a holding period for newer sellers. Sellers will not receive their money until X amount of days have passed, I think 21.

There are a number of requirements that must be met to take this hold off. The one requirement I am stuck on is amount of feedback. You need a minimum of 25 feedback. I have 12. I sell very high ticket items, so my volume is very low.

To get around this I can start selling cheap items. This is doable but a lot of work and time will be involved.

My question is, if I purchase 13 cheap items and get good feedback from those, would that count towards my minimum of 25?
Dont' count on the feedback of 25 to remove your hold. We run quite a few accounts, and several of them have been selling for over 10 years now and still had the hold placed on them. Some have not, and there does not seem to be any pattern that we can figure out with their logic. All of our accounts are 100% feedback positive, and a few are also power-seller and top-rated seller status. Some of our accounts even use the same PayPal account and some of the transactions the money will be held and some wont.

From what I gather this is possibly a testing phase they are doing where they will ultimately roll it out across the board holding all funds first, but who knows. Basically we have just learned to deal with it for the most part, but it certainly is annoying.

I've actually heard rumor also that eBay will at some point be moving to collect the monies themselves and will then payout after the holds, whereas the money wont even go to you, it will go to ebay, held and then at a later date, you will be paid. Ultimately removing your ability to even get to know who the customer was at all via the email address to begin with like you do now when you get paid via paypal.

Their process definitely sucks, and if you check out their forums lately it is pretty much one huge bitch-fest about the whole process.
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:27 PM   #10
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If you actually ask them "is it okay if I game your system by selling a bunch of $1 iems before posting my real stuff?" that might get their attention. Just sell your old cell phones or whatever you have laying around for $5 and don't bring their attention to it, I'd say. This is of course assuming you'll be a good seller and get good feedback on your higher end items too. Obviously I wouldn't encourage sidestepping the intent of the rules for nefarious purposes.
Only an idiot would ask that. I mean ask if the feedback rule is on feedback left as a buyer/seller.
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:29 AM   #12
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