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Old 04-12-2012, 06:01 PM   #51
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Personally, i am 100% for the USA pulling out of the world and letting the rest of the world deal with the consequences. No more massive military budget. No more foreign aid. No more weapons. No more UN. No more trade deficits. No more military bases. etc etc etc.
I'm all for it too. But it will never happen. When a country needs it's military, it needs to be there AND be ready to fight - not like during WWII when the US wasn't ready and had to train and gear it up it's military.

We do need to slim down, however. We have bases all around the world, and frankly, we don't need them all.
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Old 04-12-2012, 06:04 PM   #52
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Is it even possible to have a clandestine empire technically? I mean I understand the term JUMBO SHRIMP, but CLANDESTINE EMPIRE is that even possible? Just curious
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Old 04-12-2012, 06:05 PM   #53
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I'm all for it too. But it will never happen. When a country needs it's military, it needs to be there AND be ready to fight - not like during WWII when the US wasn't ready and had to train and gear it up it's military.

We do need to slim down, however. We have bases all around the world, and frankly, we don't need them all.
Yeah WW II made us look like shit! I would love to have seen what would have happened if we didn't get into the war. Where the fuck are your history books printed LOL? :1orglaug
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:35 PM   #54
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There is no oil or other commodities so no excuse to make up WMD's and invade. I don't see a war with North Korea ever now that the lame excuse of communism has been put to rest.
The irony is they DO have WMDs and we (the west) have chosen to pretty much ignore them.

The UN is a waste of time, space and money - They will talk about it for a while and then condemn them. OH NO!! - Its the international equivalent of Rothstein calling you an idiot on GFY.

I genuinely think that we (in the west) for all it MANY MANY faults are closest to getting 'it' right. If we go in unilaterally to point them in the right direction and to protect our interests then I am all for it.
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:41 PM   #55
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The irony is they DO have WMDs and we (the west) have chosen to pretty much ignore them.

The UN is a waste of time, space and money - They will talk about it for a while and then condemn them. OH NO!! - Its the international equivalent of Rothstein calling you an idiot on GFY.

I genuinely think that we (in the west) for all it MANY MANY faults are closest to getting 'it' right. If we go in unilaterally to point them in the right direction and to protect our interests then I am all for it.
They have WMD's on themselves, Let them use them and then lets see China actually do something for once in their existance.


They are no threat to us unless you are a Republican.
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They have WMD's on themselves, Let them use them and then lets see China actually do something for once in their existance.


They are no threat to us unless you are a Republican.
It would be nice to see China slap them down a peg to two that's for sure.

I forgot to mention the plight of millions of N Koreans - We have an obligation to them as fellow humans to protect them from abuse.
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I forgot to mention the plight of millions of N Koreans - We have an obligation to them as fellow humans to protect them from abuse.
You know we really actually don't. If you want to think we do you're more left than I am.

Women in Africa are being raped by bayonets and extras everyday. Why should we care about the North Koreans?

The fucking Arabs stood up for themselves recently and I would far better support them.

I don't really get this US supporting everyone bullshit. 200 years ago we fucking fought our suppressors and kicked their fucking ass. Sure France was on our side but only cause they had an interest and a common enemy.

Fucking do something for yourselves or fucking suffer and stop begging like some common bums.
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You know we really actually don't. If you want to think we do you're more left than I am.

Women in Africa are being raped by bayonets and extras everyday. Why should we care about the North Koreans?

The fucking Arabs stood up for themselves recently and I would far better support them.

I don't really get this US supporting everyone bullshit. 200 years ago we fucking fought our suppressors and kicked their fucking ass. Sure France was on our side but only cause they had an interest and a common enemy.

Fucking do something for yourselves or fucking suffer and stop begging like some common bums.
The examples you have given are of people that have the luxury of knowing they have been treated badly.

The N Koreans are pretty unique - they think that what is happening to them is normal.

We are all born ignorant - We are a blank slate that needs to be fed information in order to form opinions - If that information is withheld by the people that control it you are totally controllable.
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There is absolutely no wild life there. They have eaten everything. I think they are starting on the bed bugs now. It's amazing that common people won't rise up against these oppressive fucks. What does it take? Even the dumb ass camel jockeys have.
People deserve the government they get. just like you said..we rose up and kicked our the ass of our oppressor.
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They just launched another one. Seems like the first was a decoy.
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They just launched another one. Seems like the first was a decoy.
Are you serious?
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North Koreans do not rise up because they are taught that the rest of the world is in much worse shape than they are. They're taught from childhood that their "Dear Leader" is almost a God and will look after them and that America is evil. And if it is even suspected that you harbor unpatriotic thoughts you and your entire family are put in a gulag to be worked to death and starved. No outside news gets in and every bit of information they receive is filtered by the government. Until the people can be taught that there is an alternative to the way they live it will be business as usual and no uprisings.
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On a side note, I have a Korean friend that thinks that it's hilarious that the term "Gook is seen as derogatory, apparently it's derived from "Han Gook", which simply means "Korean person" in Korea, and became part of the US vernacular after US troops started returning from Korea in the 1950s. They don't find it offensive at all.



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Are you really confused as to the difference between NASA and countless successful launches and the fact they are not military and North Korean lunatics who are only doing test launches as a form of saber rattling to rally support at home while agitating everyone else into trying to give them more aid to settle them back down?

The failure of their test is very significant in terms of geopolitics and their continued extortion of others for food, medicine and oil.
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On a side note, I have a Korean friend that thinks that it's hilarious that the term "Gook is seen as derogatory, apparently it's derived from "Han Gook", which simply means "Korean person" in Korea, and became part of the US vernacular after US troops started returning from Korea in the 1950s. They don't find it offensive at all.
Go around calling people gooks and see if they take offense to it. Guaranteed they do!
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Go around calling people gooks and see if they take offense to it. Guaranteed they do!
Not Koreans in Korea, is my point.



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So you mean to tell me if a white guy goes to north korea he can start calling people gooks? I dont think so. Maybe if they are the same race I can understand. Kinda like black people calling each other the N word, then if a white guy says it hes racist?
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So you mean to tell me if a white guy goes to north korea he can start calling people gooks? I dont think so. Maybe if they are the same race I can understand. Kinda like black people calling each other the N word, then if a white guy says it hes racist?
According to my friend in Korea, If a person asks, "Are you a Han Gook?" The answer would be a proud "Yes", since it simply means "Korean person" and has no bad connotations in the Korean Language. To use your analogy, it would be like asking someone, "Are you an American?", NOT the equivalent of the "N" word, with all of the connotations that that word carries.


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Asking someone if they are Han Gook, vs calling them a Gook are two totally different things IMO. But hey whatever works!
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Asking someone if they are Han Gook, vs calling them a Gook are two totally different things IMO. But hey whatever works!
in his model it wouldn't be though, would probably be the same as calling you a yank.

I hear what you are saying though, you go into chinatown yelling that you get what you deserve hehe
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that is because they dont know what you are saying

if you explain to them that you are referring to them as a commonly known derogatory term you might have a heated discussion after that..Koreans are pretty uptight about supporting Korea, and everything Korean.
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