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AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 03-22-2012 04:33 PM

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At least conspiracy-kooks like JohnnyClips will have plenty to bitch and whine about through 2016, since Ron Paul's lunatic fringe campaign has about zero chance of winning in 2012 (or ever).

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TheSquealer 03-22-2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839523)
If you don't have a government then who will take care of the poor, build the roads, do this, do that, etc. :1orglaugh Same logic:1orglaugh

You were touting the benefits or anarchy which begs the obvious question... If you don't have a government and don't have laws and a legal system, then Who will stop me from walking up to you and shooting you in the face and taking all your property?

TheSquealer 03-22-2012 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839563)
And who's stopping you from doing it now? The police?! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh Their response time is incredibly slow

So what's stopping you from doing that to someone now? People aren't just going to randomly wake up and do that, plus there's thousands of ways to prevent that...good god how propagandized can you be!?

What is stopping me are the consequences. What stops anyone from shoplifting?

Not a hard concept for any sane person to grasp.

WarChild 03-22-2012 05:05 PM

So by your logic life must be glorious in tribal Africa where there is no central goverment, public education or real law enforcment. The people are great to each other and everyone works together in harmony to build a thriving civilization based on volunteerism! Why don't you go there and experience all it has to offer?

porno jew 03-22-2012 05:07 PM

what if biologically TheSquealer was a narcissistic psychopath who has zero empathy to taking what he wants to satisfy his needs? what's going to stop him from grabbing you are stealing you ipad as you walk down the street? serious question?

TheSquealer 03-22-2012 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839578)
If laws and rules are the only thing that stops you from killing, stealing, etc. then there is a much deeper and bigger issue at hand here :thumbsup

You rely on word games and semantics to make a point - and your points are insane anyway so that fact, i suppose is irrelevant anyway... and no matter what, once you get backed into a corner with the simple logic of a 10 year old, you quickly retreat to the asinine idea that anyone only believes anything that contradicts your world view because they are brainwashed by "authority figures".

To be clear, this is just my attempt to amuse myself as I work.

That aside, EVERYONE but you understands laws and rules aren't the only thing stopping people from killing stealing etc. Clearly a large deterrent. What will stop the USA from being a narco terrorist state ran by Mexican cartels without government and without organization, laws, law enforcement etc?

WarChild 03-22-2012 05:09 PM

In reality, the only thing stopping me from beating annoying hippies in to perpetual silence *IS* the legal consequences. I am not alone either.

mrgica 03-22-2012 05:11 PM

Who is johnny

porno jew 03-22-2012 05:13 PM

johnny is gfy's greatest PHILOSOPHER!

WarChild 03-22-2012 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mrgica (Post 18839603)
Who is johnny

A much better question would be what is a Juggalo?


TheSquealer 03-22-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18839597)
In reality, the only thing stopping me from beating annoying hippies in to perpetual silence *IS* the legal consequences. I am not alone either.

Seriously, I never got into BJJ... but I've done a lot of karate, kick boxing and boxing and I've owned my own place. If i could just punch someone or kick them in the thigh, inner thigh, knee or head as hard as i could every time someone annoyed me, and just pushed a hard front kick right through their abdomen as I moved closer to ask what they were muttering under their breath... there'd be a lot of unconscious homeless people, people in line at the bank, checkout people at the supermarket and so on out there.

It could be a whole new business. Why spar with each other in the confines of a ring or mat, when you can spar with a spindly homeless guy who's high on meth and fighting for both a fix and a warm place to sleep that night... who's packing a .38 which may or may not be loaded?

I too,... have a dream.

http://www.writespirit.net/inspirati...ther-king2.jpg

mrgica 03-22-2012 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18839616)
A much better question would be what is a Juggalo?


Great song! :winkwink:

uno 03-22-2012 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839476)
The biggest racists, bigots and hate groups ARE in the GOVERNMENT. They block people from working, being educated, encourage poverty and put un-born babies and societies in DEBT. Not to mention millions of non criminals into cages for no reason whatsoever.

Stop worrying about some racist or white supremacists here and there. They don't have the monopoly of force to arrest you , tax you, etc

Sure they do. You left out, conveniently, lynching. :upsidedow

uno 03-22-2012 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839495)
I don't have any failures or problems

Philosophy and libertarianism has changed my life. I am spreading the word. It's too bad propaganda is embedded too deep on lots of people still :2 cents:

What school of philosophy do you follow? What philosophers and books have you read to 'educate' yourself? You claim to have graduated from a 'new ivy league' school. Which school? What was your major/minor? How old are you?

uno 03-22-2012 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 18839592)
You rely on word games and semantics to make a point - and your points are insane anyway so that fact, i suppose is irrelevant anyway... and no matter what, once you get backed into a corner with the simple logic of a 10 year old, you quickly retreat to the asinine idea that anyone only believes anything that contradicts your world view because they are brainwashed by "authority figures".

To be clear, this is just my attempt to amuse myself as I work.

That aside, EVERYONE but you understands laws and rules aren't the only thing stopping people from killing stealing etc. Clearly a large deterrent. What will stop the USA from being a narco terrorist state ran by Mexican cartels without government and without organization, laws, law enforcement etc?

How can you possibly know what any individual person would do on any random street when you admit governments keep secrets and secret societies exist and aliens rule the world from hollow earth? It's painfully obvious.

porno jew 03-22-2012 06:31 PM

johnny, humans created the state. it's not something that dropped on humans from space and corrupted them ... wait ....

porno jew 03-22-2012 06:32 PM

what school of philosophy do you follow? your favorite three philosophers? last philosophical text you have read?

uno 03-22-2012 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839703)
MIT

Business

25

Somehow I doubt 2/3 of that. Did you have meetings with other 'philosophers' in the steam tunnels?

uno 03-22-2012 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839715)
You do realize that you live in anarchy in your personal life and relationships, right?

You do realize that ebay is an anarchistic model, right?

I mean it's not rocket science here

I knew it. Ebay and paypal are tools of the reptilian aliens inhabiting the hollow earth as a tool to mold, shape, and control us along with the illuminati(unless they are one in the same, oh my!) in order to indoctrinate us that education is a virtue so the 7 jewish bankers who control the world from earth's orbit can institute the NWO.

porno jew 03-22-2012 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839711)
Humans did not create the "state" just like they didn't create language. People falsely believe that "oh everyone got together and formed a government" :1orglaugh or that people started communicating and everyone learned a language :1orglaugh:1orglaugh . Why is EVERY single government the same no matter where the location? Of all possibilities, very little difference if any at all

Both are handed from the top down. The only thing that perpetuates the state is abusing, spanking, and mistreating your children. Then they become submissive and look for authority figures. The state is HELD in place by this...raise your kids peacefully and no state :thumbsup

who created the state then?

TheSquealer 03-22-2012 06:52 PM

Hahaha... the guy can't construct a coherent thought, nor can he see the glaringly obvious flaws in his "logic" - but he went to MIT?

LOL
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

TheSquealer 03-22-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839730)
Do you need the government to tell you who to date or where to go shopping? No, you voluntarily choose them. This is not difficult to understand I hope. Now just expand that and you're all set :thumbsup

You don't even seem to understand what Anarchy is. We do everything within the confines of rules and laws. No one tells you where to go shopping... but how to get there, how fast you go, which side of the road you drive on, how to pay etc etc etc etc etc ... all dictated by the governments we elect


having the freedom to make choices is not "anarchy"

porno jew 03-22-2012 06:56 PM

maybe a MIT "spokes" person can confirm his enrollment.

TheSquealer 03-22-2012 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839767)
You simply to not understand anarchy/libertarianism/freedom and are splitting hairs here. I'm talking about living in a free society free from coercion, which we do NOT currently live in.

You have been propagandized and the first image you probably thing when you hear the word "anarchy" is a bunch of guys with handkerchiefs over their mouths throwing molativ cocktails at buildings. Nothing can be further from the truth, of course. Which is why you need propaganda...

Anarchy and Libertarianism have nothing to do with each other. "less government in our lives" is not the same as "No government at all" dumbass.

You don't even seem to know what either are.
:2 cents::2 cents:

TheSquealer 03-22-2012 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839772)
WRONG

Again stop splitting hairs

I am for NO government aka no group of people with a monopoly to do what they want and use force against you. I am for property rights and non violence.

You might be for non violence, but mexican cartels are all for moving in, cutting off civilians heads to send a message, executing anyone that gets in their way and selling cocaine and any other drug thats profitable. Maybe your little 3rd grade view of utopia has an idea to deal with that which doesn't include organized law enforcement, intelligence agencies, courts, a criminal justice system and a penal system?

TheSquealer 03-22-2012 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839772)
WRONG

Again stop splitting hairs

I am for NO government aka no group of people with a monopoly to do what they want and use force against you. I am for property rights and non violence.

Who protects your rights?

Sly 03-22-2012 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18839727)
who created the state then?

Aliens or God.

TheSquealer 03-22-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839783)
Who protects your "rights" now?

The State. You steal my property... you get arrested. You assault me, you go to jail. etc etc. They're called "Laws" - those things created by elected officials.

porno jew 03-22-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839772)
I am for property rights

who has the authority to enforce that?

TheSquealer 03-22-2012 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839782)
That's because drugs are illegal...

In a free society drugs wouldn't be illegal. Every hear of alcohol prohibition and how the same thing is happening? Again, not rocket science :1orglaugh

You don't know that to be true and you can't prove that to be true.

TheSquealer 03-22-2012 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839791)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The state protects your rights?!?! Is that a joke?

I'm sorry, was that your idea of a well reasoned argument?

WarChild 03-22-2012 07:15 PM

Johnny just wants to return to the dark ages! You know, before organized goverment FORCED you to live civil like. Before public education and laws, when people were just good to each other and nobody ever robbed, raped or destroyed. The genuine good qualities of man were the order of the day and everyone worked together for a happier tomorrow for all! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I mean it's not like when Rome fell that things got worse or anything!

WarChild 03-22-2012 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839801)
How's public education working out?

Well it's certainly been a failure with you. You reason at about a 4th grade level. :2 cents:

Sly 03-22-2012 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839801)
How's public education working out?

Better than 95% of Africa.

TheSquealer 03-22-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839796)
Umm not sure if you're being serious with this one?

Legalize drugs and all the crime goes away. See: alcohol

What crime went away? Compare Chicago gangsters shooting each other to.. say,... children getting killed by a drunk drivers because they're "Free" to drink all they want. Which number is greater genius?

WarChild 03-22-2012 07:19 PM

So Johnny please explain why when Rome falls we enter the Dark Ages? I mean without a goverment things should have been much better, right? Drugs weren't illegal and all crime certainly didn't dissapear.

Sly 03-22-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839815)
Legalize drugs. Then there wouldn't be an unnecessary, stupid war against non criminals :2 cents:

Which again has absolutely nothing to do with what was said and instead has to do with pot? you must have one hell of a habit.

WarChild 03-22-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18839811)
So Johnny please explain why when Rome falls we enter the Dark Ages? I mean without a goverment things should have been much better, right? Drugs weren't illegal and all crime certainly didn't dissapear.

Still waiting ...

Sly 03-22-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18839823)
Still waiting ...

I'm still trying to figure out who forms a government if it isn't people. Could be camels.

TheSquealer 03-22-2012 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips (Post 18839815)
Legalize drugs. Then there wouldn't be an unnecessary, stupid war against non criminals :2 cents:

That has nothing to do with my remark. Nothing at all.

I just reply because its interesting watching you respond. You're clearly lying about who you are and you're obviously in dire need of mental help.


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