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  • Joe Obenberger
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    • May 2003
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    #1

    Maricopa County (Phoenix) Prosecutor Threatens Porn Arrests

    http://www.xbiz.com/news/145588

    To which I respond, with a case in his backyard:

    http://www.xxxlaw.com/articles/porno....and.porn.html

    A couple of years ago, some cops came into the Mission Palms during the show and made their presence known.

    It just could get more interesting this year in Phoenix.
    Last edited by Joe Obenberger; 03-13-2012, 07:32 PM.


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  • dgraves
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    #2
    how the fuck did new hampshire get on the porn map?
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    • Captain Kawaii
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      #3
      Originally posted by dgraves
      how the fuck did new hampshire get on the porn map?
      "Live Free Or Die"

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      • Just Alex
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        • Aug 2007
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        #4
        Originally posted by Joe Obenberger
        http://www.xbiz.com/news/145588

        To which I respond, with a case in his backyard:

        http://www.xxxlaw.com/articles/porno....and.porn.html

        A couple of years ago, some cops came into the Mission Palms during the show and made their presence known.

        It just could get more interesting this year in Phoenix.
        Lets see Nikki Licks run his mouth there.

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        • Deej
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          • Jun 2005
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          #5
          Originally posted by Just Alex
          Lets see Nikki Licks run his mouth there.
          Always good times with NIkki in Phoenix... or anywhere.

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          • Rochard
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            #6
            The Prosecutor clearly has no idea that porn is being made in his very back yard - most likely by his neighbors...
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            • Porno Dan
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              • May 2003
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              #7
              The companies shooting in Arizona have been able to do for many years by being "under the radar".

              Now, thanks to some misinformed porn talent running their mouth to the press that the porn industry is going to relocate to Arizona; there, is a likelihood that those companies are going to be prosecuted if they continue to shoot in Arizona.
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              • dgraves
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                #8
                wouldn't porn be legal to shoot in the same parts of nevada where prostitution is legal?

                how would cops bust a porn shoot? wouldn't they have to catch the offer/payment process?
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                • InfoGuy
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                  #9
                  distant "gratification in the hands of remote consumers" [there is some real artistry involved in that judge's choice of words] involved in videography
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                  • V_RocKs
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                    #10
                    I bet you that guy spends tax payer money jacking off to lightspeed university.

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                    • FLFHoles
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Just Alex
                      Lets see Nikki Licks run his mouth there.
                      Not just him but Amateur Allure shoots out of there as well along with Sundevil Models and many more. This is just grandstanding for the public during an election year. How can anyone take this douche's word seriously when many companies have been filming fuck flicks for a long time in his own state? Surely if there is any merit to these words then Paul and Nikki should be squarely in the cross hairs long before any new companies are targeted.

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                      • shimmy2
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                        #12
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                        • ManuteBol
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                          #13
                          I have been to every Phoenix Forum since 2005 and I have never seen a Police Officer inside the Tempe Mission Palms.

                          Originally posted by Joe Obenberger
                          http://www.xbiz.com/news/145588

                          To which I respond, with a case in his backyard:

                          http://www.xxxlaw.com/articles/porno....and.porn.html

                          A couple of years ago, some cops came into the Mission Palms during the show and made their presence known.

                          It just could get more interesting this year in Phoenix.

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                          • Qbert
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by dgraves
                            wouldn't porn be legal to shoot in the same parts of nevada where prostitution is legal?
                            Yes, probably. But, legal brothels in Nevada are condom manditory. May as well just stay in Los Angeles.

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                            • AaronM
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                              • Oct 2001
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by dgraves
                              how the fuck did new hampshire get on the porn map?
                              Has it occurred to you that reading the article could be of value?

                              "The Supreme Court of New Hampshire used the reasoning of Freeman and came to a conclusion quite friendly to the First Amendment and protected expression, concluding (though it's far less than certain that they were intellectually required to do so) that its prostitution statute did not reach paid videography because the prostitution statute in issue required a purpose of sexual gratification that had not been made out by the State."


                              Originally posted by FLFHoles
                              Surely if there is any merit to these words then Paul and Nikki should be squarely in the cross hairs long before any new companies are targeted.

                              Considering that Nikki has never shot a single hardcore production, I highly doubt he would be in anybodies cross hairs.

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                              • FLFHoles
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by AaronM

                                Considering that Nikki has never shot a single hardcore production, I highly doubt he would be in anybodies cross hairs.
                                Do you think that will matter to the politicos who are grandstanding during an election year?

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                                • pornlaw
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                                  #17
                                  Here's a comment from the Maricopa County Attorney's Office spokesperson...

                                  "To that, County Attorney's Office spokesman Jerry Cobb tells New Times, "There have been people doing all kinds of things are illegal, but not everyone's caught and prosecuted."

                                  And nobody in the county's faced prostitution charges for porno appearances since Montgomery took over, Cobb says."

                                  So they are tough on porn but soft on prosecution ?

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                                  • porno jew
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                                    #18
                                    it's because it's all over the media the porn industry is moving there due to condom regs. they are just responding.

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                                    • DWB
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                                      • Jul 2003
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                                      #19
                                      Welcome to my world. I've been shooting in various countries (and US states) where porn is illegal for 12 years.

                                      Don't have a lot of sympathy for anyone because they have to use condoms. Deal with it or move underground. That's the way porn valley was many years ago when it started, may as well be a fitting ending to it all.

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                                      • AaronM
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                                        • Oct 2001
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by FLFHoles
                                        Do you think that will matter to the politicos who are grandstanding during an election year?
                                        Uh...Yeah. Of course I do.

                                        There are some good size companies shooting hardcore porn on a regular basis in AZ. Going after a guy who occasionally shoots some solo stuff would be FAR beyond stupid since there is nothing illegal about it.

                                        The DA would want convictions or plea bargains. They are not looking to be embarrassed by attempting to prosecute something like this.

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                                        • halfpint
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                                          #21
                                          Just go and film in the Bronx... wouldent suprise me if they make it illegal over here in the UK very soon with all the anti porn crap going on

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                                          • MediaGuy
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                                            #22
                                            I never really looked into the definitions, but assumed backhandedly that performers are paid for the rights to the images, videos and recordings of the performances, regardless of the nature of the performances?

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                                            • Stephen
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                                              • Feb 2003
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by dgraves
                                              how the fuck did new hampshire get on the porn map?
                                              I'm from New Hampshire, the / one of the / only "legal" places to produce porn in the U.S.

                                              There are a few adult companies (including at least one well-known co.) operating there.

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                                              • mikesouth
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                                                #24
                                                Porners aint moving anyfuckingwhere

                                                for one they cant afford to for another no place else wants them.
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                                                • dgraves
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                                                  #25
                                                  didn't the 2257 scare tactics start out like this?
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                                                  • Porno Dan
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by mikesouth
                                                    Porners aint moving anyfuckingwhere

                                                    for one they cant afford to for another no place else wants them.
                                                    As the English would say, "You are spot-on"

                                                    The more people in Nevada, Arizona, Florida and elsewhere brag about shooting porn and saying the porn industry should relocate there, the more likely they are to bring prosecutions upon themselves.
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                                                    • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                      #27
                                                      It's an election year ...

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                                                      • JFK
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                        I bet you that guy spends tax payer money jacking off to lightspeed university.

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                                                        • Joe Obenberger
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                          It's an election year ...
                                                          And what do you think would be the best way to exploit the issue during an election year?

                                                          In a campaign season that's all about how the Moral Right is voting in the presidential primary, where is this prosecutor's political advantage?

                                                          When the cops made a stir in the parking lot at Mission Palms a few years back with a bunch of vehicles, the local buzz was that a local TV station had done a feature about Phoenix Forum being in town and so law enforcement decided to make their appearance for public consumption. Nothing came of it.


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                                                          • ManuteBol
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Joe Obenberger
                                                            A couple of years ago, some cops came into the Mission Palms during the show and made their presence known.
                                                            Originally posted by Joe Obenberger
                                                            When the cops made a stir in the parking lot at Mission Palms a few years back with a bunch of vehicles, the local buzz was that a local TV station had done a feature about Phoenix Forum being in town and so law enforcement decided to make their appearance for public consumption. Nothing came of it.
                                                            So, they didn't come into the Tempe Mission Palms, they were in the parking lot.

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                                                            • Joe Obenberger
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ManuteBol
                                                              So, they didn't come into the Tempe Mission Palms, they were in the parking lot.
                                                              I don't know for a fact whether they went in. I had the impression from what I saw that they did. I saw a bunch of empty marked vehicles, parked conspicuously and not in spots, and just a few cops walking around the east perimeter, some talking with attendees. Attendees were talking about it and that's how I heard the story about the news item on local TV.


                                                              Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice. . . Restraint in the pursuit of Justice is no virtue.
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                                                              • baryl
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                                                                #32
                                                                I'm not sure of the exact Nevada/Las Vegas laws regarding porn production but there have been recent articles in the Las Vegas Sun basically welcoming the porn industry here.

                                                                http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012...oducers-las-v/

                                                                Interesting quote:
                                                                ?We don?t issue permits? for porn productions, said Ed Harran of the Nevada Film Office. ?But if you shoot on private property, you don?t need permitting.?

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                                                                • spunky99
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Joe Obenberger
                                                                  I don't know for a fact whether they went in. I had the impression from what I saw that they did. I saw a bunch of empty marked vehicles, parked conspicuously and not in spots, and just a few cops walking around the east perimeter, some talking with attendees. Attendees were talking about it and that's how I heard the story about the news item on local TV.
                                                                  wasnt that when girls gone wild douchebag announced he was gonna be there?

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                                                                  • Radical Bucks
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by AaronM
                                                                    Has it occurred to you that reading the article could be of value?

                                                                    "The Supreme Court of New Hampshire used the reasoning of Freeman and came to a conclusion quite friendly to the First Amendment and protected expression, concluding (though it's far less than certain that they were intellectually required to do so) that its prostitution statute did not reach paid videography because the prostitution statute in issue required a purpose of sexual gratification that had not been made out by the State."





                                                                    Considering that Nikki has never shot a single hardcore production, I highly doubt he would be in anybodies cross hairs.
                                                                    Wrong again....

                                                                    "Montgomery said the state law would prevent the establishment of a "pornography industry" to any degree."

                                                                    Time to rethink the term solo when it means any pornography and sexual situations or acts... to ANY degree.
                                                                    Solo masturbation is a sexual act. Therefor you will be prosecuted for these violations in Arizona. Its also in the works that porn will be soon be human trafficking.

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                                                                    • dgraves
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      So, how are tubes going to steal our porn if we can't make it anymore?
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                                                                      • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Joe Obenberger
                                                                        And what do you think would be the best way to exploit the issue during an election year?

                                                                        In a campaign season that's all about how the Moral Right is voting in the presidential primary, where is this prosecutor's political advantage?

                                                                        When the cops made a stir in the parking lot at Mission Palms a few years back with a bunch of vehicles, the local buzz was that a local TV station had done a feature about Phoenix Forum being in town and so law enforcement decided to make their appearance for public consumption. Nothing came of it.
                                                                        My best guess is that he is up for re-election and pandering to his constituency

                                                                        The Arizona State Constitution, under Article 12, Section 3, provides for each county a number of elected officials, among them a County Attorney. The power and duties of the Maricopa County Attorney are enumerated throughout Arizona's Revised Statutes; specifically A.R.S. 11-401; A.R.S. 11-531 et seq.
                                                                        We call it "blowing hot air" for the most part but he is correct; creating pornography in Arizona is a crime. As for the PheonixForum, the same thing goes on in Florida, they are happy to take this industry's money in tourism but maintain a hostile business environment for this industry's production -- hypocrisy triumphs ...

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                                                                        • Radical Bucks
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                                                          My best guess is that he is up for re-election and pandering to his constituency



                                                                          We call it "blowing hot air" for the most part but he is correct; creating pornography in Arizona is a crime. As for the PheonixForum, the same thing goes on in Florida, they are happy to take this industry's money in tourism but maintain a hostile business environment for this industry's production -- hypocrisy triumphs ...
                                                                          I have an idea..... Why don't you go to Arizona, shoot porn and test that just blowing hot air theory.
                                                                          Last edited by Radical Bucks; 03-14-2012, 06:30 PM.

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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Sigh...and yawnn....

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