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TheRedZone · 02-07-2003, 09:52 AM

Can any of you guys recommend a search engine optimization service.

I've tried a couple in the past and been unhappy with the lack of results. It's my impression most of these guys are scammers. Are there any good ones out there?

TheRedZone · 02-07-2003, 01:52 PM

"Anyone? Anyone know the answer? Anyone at all?.....Ferris?..."

Let me guess, you guys all do your own SE Optimization and don't want to share your secrets.....

WiredGuy · 02-07-2003, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by TheRedZone
Let me guess, you guys all do your own SE Optimization and don't want to share your secrets.....

Yup, you guessed it!
WG

twistyneck · 02-07-2003, 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by TheRedZone
[BLet me guess, you guys all do your own SE Optimization and don't want to share your secrets..... [/B]

We have a winner!

wimpy · 02-07-2003, 11:12 PM

those inexpensive programs are always junk. There are no short cuts. There are penalties for people caught using bad programs like link farms.

It's also expensive to hire the talent. For most websites it doesn't pay to hire. You gotta learn how to do it yourself to make money on it.

I think it's well worth it. I only do seo now after years of trade management. trades sucked, people always hitting you this way and that way, it's damn hard to keep your traffic quality up. with search engines it's just me in my office twiddling away, quietly making money with very few hassles.

Keev · 02-07-2003, 11:42 PM

keywordranking.com -

wimpy · 02-08-2003, 09:12 AM

If you're gonna use a service or consultant, be sure they don't dupe you with "guaranteed top 10 ranking" bullshit. That's the #1 line.

The truth about top 10 rankings is this:
1. they are critical to a high performance seo campaign.
2. Even a top 10 ranking is only worthwhile if you are ranking for a good key word/phrase. To decide what keywords to target, use http://inventory.overture.com/d/sear...ry/suggestion/ or another keyword suggestion tool.
3. for highly competitive keywords a top 10 ranking does not come easy. If it did, everyone would do it, then the resulting competition would make it difficult. We have long since gone through that cycle. You will never find a cheap solution to this problem.

Ranking in the top 10 for a worthless keyword is the scam. this is how it goes: a seo firm says "I'll get you in the top 10, guaranteed..." and sure enough, 30 days later you are in the top 10, for the phrase "marty's dirty little secret." Of course ranking for the phrase "marty's dirty little secret" is worthless because no one searches for that, except maybe marty.

Now that overture's grouping search terms their suggestion tool might be fucked. Not sure but it's still free and it gives an approximation.

Dildozer · 02-08-2003, 12:07 PM

I can rip you off for cheap if you want!

Seriously tho i can give you some general pointers and help you out if you want. Just hit me up on ICQ

B40 · 02-08-2003, 01:20 PM

Have a look here:
http://www.google.com/webmasters/seo.html

funkmaster · 02-08-2003, 01:25 PM

... someone that knows how to play the searchengines gives a fuck about helping others. no need to give away the secret goldmine map to a stranger ...

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wimpy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 607	those inexpensive programs are always junk. There are no short cuts. There are penalties for people caught using bad programs like link farms. It's also expensive to hire the talent. For most websites it doesn't pay to hire. You gotta learn how to do it yourself to make money on it. I think it's well worth it. I only do seo now after years of trade management. trades sucked, people always hitting you this way and that way, it's damn hard to keep your traffic quality up. with search engines it's just me in my office twiddling away, quietly making money with very few hassles. __________________ Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote: "Every man has reminiscences which he would not tell to everyone but only his friends. He has other matters in his mind which he would not reveal even to his friends, but only to himself, and that in secret. But there are other things which a man is afraid to tell even to himself, and every decent man has a number of such things stored away in his mind." icq 8243657

02-08-2003, 09:12 AM	#7
wimpy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 607	If you're gonna use a service or consultant, be sure they don't dupe you with "guaranteed top 10 ranking" bullshit. That's the #1 line. The truth about top 10 rankings is this: 1. they are critical to a high performance seo campaign. 2. Even a top 10 ranking is only worthwhile if you are ranking for a good key word/phrase. To decide what keywords to target, use http://inventory.overture.com/d/sear...ry/suggestion/ or another keyword suggestion tool. 3. for highly competitive keywords a top 10 ranking does not come easy. If it did, everyone would do it, then the resulting competition would make it difficult. We have long since gone through that cycle. You will never find a cheap solution to this problem. Ranking in the top 10 for a worthless keyword is the scam. this is how it goes: a seo firm says "I'll get you in the top 10, guaranteed..." and sure enough, 30 days later you are in the top 10, for the phrase "marty's dirty little secret." Of course ranking for the phrase "marty's dirty little secret" is worthless because no one searches for that, except maybe marty. Now that overture's grouping search terms their suggestion tool might be fucked. Not sure but it's still free and it gives an approximation. __________________ Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote: "Every man has reminiscences which he would not tell to everyone but only his friends. He has other matters in his mind which he would not reveal even to his friends, but only to himself, and that in secret. But there are other things which a man is afraid to tell even to himself, and every decent man has a number of such things stored away in his mind." icq 8243657

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