The MP board urls come up 'haha' on GFY. If anyone wants the actual urls feel free to contact me via ICQ or Email. If the search function on JBM worked I am confident I would easily find plenty more as well.

hahahaha, is that the story you're going to run with, liar?:1orglaugh
cyn and modf apparently didn't like the fact that I was being called a liar.
especially when they know the truth.
keep posting links and photochops. that will divert everyone's attention away from the fact that you're a liar who does shitty work.:thumbsup

the only facts that have been posted have come from me, cyn, and modf.
We all remember the idiot work you performed for us, remember having you stop before you were done, and then paying to be rid of you.

oh, and icqing cyn to convince her she's got it all wrong will work about as well as your photochops.:1orglaugh

My work was apparently good enough for Cyndalie to actively recommend me on a number of industry boards and to refer clients to me years after my work for you was completed (as proven by the urls posted). It was also good enough for you to supply a testimonial which is something you yourself noted as something you don't usually do for people (as proven by the wayback url and screenshot posted). More importantly, it is good enough to keep a long list of top companies happy for years (as proven by references available any time for prospective clients). You lying about any of that doesn't change the facts. You paying people to lie about it doesn't change their previously recorded statements. I still won't refer clients to you for your xsell business Ronald. Lying about me won't change that either.

hahaha, this clown just can't stop digging.

here, here's a photochop to distract people from seeing you lie.
http://www.12clicks.com/relentless1.jpg

You sure do love that four year old photo of me after a few drinks at JBM Hooters in Phoenix. We already discussed the fact that a person doesn't need to be a male model to succeed in this business (or pretty much any other besides male modeling). People hire me for my marketing abilities and talent for writing massive amounts of high quality text. I provide it as well or better than anyone else. Your own in-house SEO director posted her agreement with that several times after I stopped working for Mojo's company.

Distract, lie, pay others to lie, it doesn't change the truth. I have worked very hard over the years to build a strong reputation for quality work and professionalism with a large network of companies and individual webmasters. I did so for two reasons. One, it was the right thing to do... and two, it works very well for defending my brands when a loud-mouth liar like you decides to try and smear my company. You are a joke.

well again, we'll just have to take your word for it since everyone else involved remembers it a different way. :1orglaugh

and I'm sorry about the picture. you seem to like photochops and you're just not interesting enough for me to search for a second picture of you.

just to recap.
we fired you for doing shitty work. 3 out of the 4 of us involved agree. 1 of us wants to post links and photochops to distract from his lies.

the liar then continues by trying to disparage two other people's reputations for telling the truth. Both of who's reputations are above reproach.

continue to dig, nit wit.:thumbsup

You seem to think that if you post last in a thread people will not bother scrolling up to read the rest of what has been written before it. Lying as the last statement must be some kind of 'advanced lying technique' that you developed after many years of practice... Spacing out each sentence to take up more screen space is also an interesting technique of selling your lies by moving the truth further out of visible screen area.

Anyone who reads this thread will see plenty of proof posted by me and a lot of very obvious lies posted by you or people you pay to post. More importantly, I can provide many references for my work, and usually I can provide someone the prospective client already knows and trusts as a specific reference. You lying doesn't change that. You posting last and lying also doesn't change that.

just to recap.
we fired you for doing shitty work. 3 out of the 4 of us involved agree. 1 of us wants to post links and photochops to distract from his lies.

the liar then continues by trying to disparage two other people's reputations for telling the truth. Both of who's reputations are above reproach.

continue to dig, nit wit.

Let me help

you push

the links and proof further...


off the page.


Do you really think webmasters are incapable of scrolling up or reading this thread from the start to see screenshots of your testimonial, links were Cyndalie wrote I am the best writer she knows and a whole host of other facts that specifically disprove your lies? :1orglaugh

just to recap.
we fired you for doing shitty work. 3 out of the 4 of us involved agree. 1 of us wants to post links and photochops to distract from his lies.

the liar then continues by trying to disparage two other people's reputations for telling the truth. Both of who's reputations are above reproach.

continue to dig, nit wit.

Copy and pasting your text is the same thing many cheap writers do. On a forum system it may work to save you some time, but when you want to generate SEO value, visitor retention or improved sales ratios it is a very bad idea. Maybe you should apply to be the $500 writer for the OP's 10,000 scene text job. You can copy and paste your lies there instead. :winkwink:

I am surprised that your JBM, "Ronald Mc12clicks", chop had not been posted yet.

:1orglaugh

That aside, I better understand the JBM duels between you two. Complete with jester emote. I thought it was just some board bantering. Not so much the past working relationship.

A variation was posted earlier. Fans of the image can see Ronald Mc12clicks as part of the 'Single White Female' DVD box cover parody I posted a few pages back.

In a few ways this thread has been very helpful. Now when Ronald starts lying, I can just post a link to this URL for anyone who is interested to see the full set of facts, without having to rehash the same ground that has already been covered. Also, I have been contacted by a couple lurkers interested in becoming writers, and I have gotten more than a few laughs form the ICQ messages people have sent me about this thread. I am not the only person or company Ronald has lied about. I am not the only bridge he has burned. Threads like this often bring out plenty of new potential business associates.

"Ronald wanted me to send xsell clients to him, which I refused. Ronald doesn't like anyone who disagrees with him ever for any reason. He will lie, stalk them on message-boards or do whatever else he thinks he can do to irritate them." There you go Ronald, you can quote me on that and use it as my testimonial for you. It's only fair, since you wrote one for me years ago. :thumbsup

Ah, well there is apparently no love loss between you two, and I can see why better now since all of this stuff posted about the past relationship. I thought that before the JBM banter was just a part of will76 part duex since 12clicks has a lot of trolls following him around.

That being said, 12clicks has an entertaining style of posting on the forums. I have come to appreciate it more as I have gotten older.... "pearls before swine", "shitstain", etc.. It really seems to get those without money spitting blood. Which I think he really enjoys.

I think we need Eric/Theo to add in that jester emote from JBM has just for him.

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

In the time it took you both to fight to the death here, you could have used your time and energy to knock out some projects and put those words towards those 10k videos. GFY is a fun place to unwind and check out business potential, but don't forget to keep an eye on productivity before you're 3 pages deep in bickering.

I agree completely. However, I am sure you would also agree that allowing someone to lie about me or my company without posting detailed facts to the contrary would be a poor outcome. The fact that message-boards are all text also works to my advantage, because each post I write serves as an example of my work and a thread like this one brings me new opportunities for business with people who read it. I have managed to get some work done on my sites while disproving Ronald's lies, but I would no doubt have gotten more done if he didn't start posting those lies in the first place.

While I enjoy reading the daily posts from both of you at times, I think your time would have been better served working on your business than battling with 12clicks on multiple message boards.

No offense.

I appreciate the advice. No offense taken. When someone posts baseless lies about you and your business, tries to back them up by having employees post false agreement with them, and stalks you from one thread to the next... try not replying. See if that works out better for you in the long run. My experience is that it won't.

Ronald's lies left on their own tend to be believed, his lies immediately countered with proof including screenshots and contrary URLs tend to be shown for the false nonsense that they are, and that does have value to my brand in the long term.

just to recap.
we fired you for doing shitty work. 3 out of the 4 of us involved agree. 1 of us wants to post links and photochops to distract from his lies.

the liar then continues by trying to disparage two other people's reputations for telling the truth. Both of who's reputations are above reproach.

continue to dig, nit wit.

Thanks for your help Ronald. Due solely to your lies in this thread and my ability to disprove them, two of my clients have graciously offered to post here (I refused because they don't need to be lied about by you and I can defend my company on my own). One potential new client has contacted me about site work they want written and referenced this thread as the way they found EngineFood, and two nice people looking to become writers have contacted me as well. Stop lying about me and my company. People can all see many examples of my work, numerous references available upon request, links to the contrary of what you and your cronies claim... Nobody with any sense believes you.

I must thank you too, Klewless. Due solely to your lies in this thread and my ability to disprove them, two martians have graciously offered to post here (I refused because they don't need to be lied about by you and I can defend my company on my own). One potential third martian has contacted me about site work they want written and referenced this thread as the way they found Earth, and two nice plutonians wanting to become martians have contacted me as well. Stop lying about me and my company. Nobody with any sense believes you.

fuck, I have to break character here just to laugh at the "look at all the work this thread got me" bullshit.
kinda like the "so many people have contacted me on icq" bullshit. :1orglaugh

I see you are working on your ability to create cheap morphed text by swapping out certain nouns. If you would like additional practice I recommend you visit www.MadLibs.com and get yourself a workbook to use. If you really want the 500 dollar 10,000 scene writing job offered earlier in this thread you surely should bone up on your ability to fill in new nouns for texts that other people wrote originally. :1orglaugh

That's the saddest part Ronald. I used to think your board persona was a character you portrayed. However, the more I am told about you and the more I read, the more obvious it becomes that you are a liar. You aren't playing a character who lies, you are a liar. :2 cents:

well stewart, if I'm lying about your business, you could sue me for damages. easy money.

oh right, you can't lie in a court of law like you can on GFY.
(another lesson you learned from your pre-porn days, eh, liar?) :1orglaugh

I'm in this thread grinding a liar under my heel, you're the one fighting over industry scraps with the filipinos. :1orglaugh

hahaha, I almost missed this!

are they telling you in icq?:1orglaugh

klewless, know one who does business with me would have a conversation with you. One of their employees might tell you they're not hiring but thats pretty much as far as that goes.:thumbsup

To successfully sue you I'd first have to be able to show that a reasonable person might actually have believed anything you are saying and that it in some way negatively impacted my business. I'm also not the type to go around suing every clown who says something untrue. In fact, there is no way anyone reasonable would believe what you have said and your own 'friends' continue to hire me. You are a well-known liar and deep down you already know that. This thread does an excellent job of proving it. :2 cents:


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just to recap.
we fired you for doing shitty work. 3 out of the 4 of us involved agree. 1 of us wants to post links and photochops to distract from his lies.

the liar then continues by trying to disparage two other people's reputations for telling the truth. Both of who's reputations are above reproach.

continue to dig, nit wit.

Back to copy and pasting? That will serve you well if GFY one day removes its scroll bars and no longer allows people to scroll up to read the facts. Good luck with that.

just to recap.
we fired you for doing shitty work. 3 out of the 4 of us involved agree. 1 of us wants to post links and photochops to distract from his lies.

the liar then continues by trying to disparage two other people's reputations for telling the truth. Both of who's reputations are above reproach.

continue to dig, nit wit.

Your quick copy/pasting will make a GFY reader unhappy as they missed the chance to post at the top of the page in spot # 151.

we wouldn't want anyone to miss out by not being able to scroll thru your bullshit.:thumbsup

Yet another trick often used by message-board liars. Your false 'recap' on a fresh page conveniently leaves out the links to threads where Cyndalie directly contradicts herself by telling people that I am the best writer she knows. It leaves out the screenshots of your testimonial lauding my work after the job was complete. It leaves out the fact that you paid your employees to post support for your lies.

Anyone who reads this thread from start to finish will come away with the exact same result. Ronald Mc12Clicks is a liar. Not a board persona that lies, an actual liar and he is willing to ruin the reputation of his own employees if it is necessary to further his lies in a sad attempt to 'get back' at someone who decided not to refer xsell clients to him years ago. I encourage everyone to read this thread from start to finish, in fact I have bookmarked it and plan to reference it often in future threads when you try to stalk me or lie about me and my company. :2 cents:

what liar? I can't hear you. :1orglaugh

It's no surprise that you can't hear me. You are too busy listening to the false narrative in your own head. Liars often do that to try and convince themselves that their deceitful point of view is true and that the actual truth is somehow flawed. Read the thread from start to finish. You are a liar. That much is obvious.

what liar? I can't hear you.
First I was a liar, then me and Cyn were liars, then me, cyn, and modf are liars.
there's no end to your lying. all to fight for scraps a real biz would leave to filipinos. :1orglaugh

Ronald, I am a professional writer hired by many top companies to provide text content. You are an xsell salesman for Mojo's company. You are engaged in a war of words on a message board and you are badly outmatched - not only because I write better than you do, but because you are a liar and the truth is clearly on my side as evidenced by the totality of this thread.

quick! its time for another photochop! That will trick us into believing you're not a liar! :1orglaugh