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Relentless 02-29-2012 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18790407)
Holy rant Batman! Looks like Relentless pushed some buttons.

I pushed buttons years ago... When I refused to send Ronald xsellers from my client list. Since that time he has been following me around the Internet trying desperately to stalk me. That's the only reason he is in this thread and others. The sad thing for him is that my clients are happy with my work. So he embarrasses himself by lying on the boards and hoping people who are already satisfied will somehow become unsatisfied just because he lies. You would think as a captain of industry he would have better things to do with his time. Maybe he is lying about more than what he said in this thread...

porno jew 02-29-2012 06:07 PM

not going to read all that.

TheSquealer 02-29-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18790573)
Well and concisely written.

Thank you, if you would like me to write your posts for you, I charge .10 a word. I'll get Chow Yun Bao and Habib on it ASAP. All posts will be cleverly written and represent you in the best light possible. I just need some clear guidelines and an advance payment so I can pay my virtual hosting account for my super awesome SEO super mega site where i rank number 1 for the phrase "perfect drunk one legged teen jacking off horse donkey".

Please see a sample of my work:
"The most honorable glorious 12clicks Sir, most perfectly adapted his try to destroy Einstein idea of Theory of Evolution while eating freezed milk"

TheSquealer 02-29-2012 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18790621)
I own plenty of sites and many of them have done quite well for me. Many of them have done very well for others. I own my own affiliate program, review site network, exclusive content paysites, affiliate referral sites, blogs, tubes and so on. However, what I do best is write. The sites I own are an extension of my ability to sell words. Search engines, recurring site members, site membership buyers, mainstream consumers, magazine readers etc.... appreciate text content when it is done well.

Yeah, tube sites own the SERPs because they are full of great text. I personally find surfing pornhub.com to be much like reading Hemingway... probably why their bounce rate stays low.. its a real page turner.

Selling text is a scam unless someone needs legit product descriptions of specific text for a site they don't want to write. And its a shitty business. Thats why you, Jfalcon and $5submissions are here feverishly posting or cutting and pasting stupid shit, hoping to scrape up some business.

If Google cared so much about great text,and you're such a great writer, you'd be owning any phrase you want... but Google doesn't care and you don't. End of story.

12clicks 02-29-2012 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18790644)
I pushed buttons years ago... When I refused to send Ronald xsellers from my client list. Since that time he has been following me around the Internet trying desperately to stalk me. That's the only reason he is in this thread and others. The sad thing for him is that my clients are happy with my work. So he embarrasses himself by lying on the boards and hoping people who are already satisfied will somehow become unsatisfied just because he lies. You would think as a captain of industry he would have better things to do with his time. Maybe he is lying about more than what he said in this thread...

Ahahaha, you run with that story, vid capper.

Odd that not a single one of your many clients has anything positive to say about you.
You're nothing but a bottom feeding troll who's mouth has lost him more business than his fantasy land lies can cover up.:1orglaugh

12clicks 02-29-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18790644)
I pushed buttons years ago... When I refused to send Ronald xsellers from my client list. Since that time he has been following me around the Internet trying desperately to stalk me. That's the only reason he is in this thread and others. The sad thing for him is that my clients are happy with my work. So he embarrasses himself by lying on the boards and hoping people who are already satisfied will somehow become unsatisfied just because he lies. You would think as a captain of industry he would have better things to do with his time. Maybe he is lying about more than what he said in this thread...

Lying?
Let my ask Cyndalie in the morning how she remembers your buffoonery. :1orglaugh

Relentless 02-29-2012 07:04 PM

Will a billion well-written words on a brand new blog outrank a tube site with thousands of full length videos and an average time on site of 20 minutes or more? Of course not. However, will a tube site with a 20 minute time on site rank for even more terms and bring in even more traffic by adding higher quality scene titles, text descriptions, model bios, a blog, erotic stories and other text content? Yes, definitely. Will quality text content improve average time on site and bounce rates? Yes. There are many valuable ways to use quality text. That doesn't mean all text is good or that every project needs text. However, bad text or duplicate content is a serious liability.

I'll give you a real world example. A client of mine has a site with thousands of active members. In the members area he posted a survey question asking 'what makes this site better than all others' and as multiple choice answers he listed: video quality, interface/player options, video quantity and site text. You'll chuckle when you read that only 3% of the thousands of people responding chose site text as the primary factor that made this their site of choice. However the site owner had a different reaction, he realized 30 out of every thousand members said the text on his site was retaining their interest. When you consider that the text was intended to please search engines and entice tour visitors to convert... the fact that 3% of his members listed text ahead of video or interface is significant... and even more likely would have chosen it as their second or third choice.

This thread has gotten more than 1000 views on less than 100 posts. The one thing readers can all take away from that fact is that text is very interesting when it is well-written and about a topic the reader enjoys. In the case of his thread, webmaster drama text is improving retention ... In the case of other sites the topics change but the impact remains noticeable. I appreciate your time and effort in helping me to demo my abilities as a writer, and I am confident a writer willing to do 10,000 scenes for 500 bucks would have had a significantly weaker ability to keep people interested in their work. ;)

phypon 02-29-2012 07:05 PM

What is your contact info?

Relentless 02-29-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18790692)
Odd that not a single one of your many clients has anything positive to say about you.

I have plenty of people willing to act as references for my work.
That doesn't mean they would want to waste their time answering your idiotic posts.
You are a liar who becomes less relevant with each passing day.
Find something else to do with your time. Your opinions and lies have no value.

Relentless 02-29-2012 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by phypon (Post 18790703)
What is your contact info?

Icq 266 942 896 or you can email Stewart at EngineFood.com

u-Bob 02-29-2012 07:16 PM

like Sly said: split it up.

that way you spread the risk and you'll get titles and descriptions in different writing styles.

12clicks 02-29-2012 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18790702)
Will a billion well-written words on a brand new blog outrank a tube site with thousands of full length videos and an average time on site of 20 minutes or more? Of course not. However, will a tube site with a 20 minute time on site rank for even more terms and bring in even more traffic by adding higher quality scene titles, text descriptions, model bios, a blog, erotic stories and other text content? Yes, definitely. Will quality text content improve average time on site and bounce rates? Yes. There are many valuable ways to use quality text. That doesn't mean all text is good or that every project needs text. However, bad text or duplicate content is a serious liability.

I'll give you a real world example. A client of mine has a site with thousands of active members. In the members area he posted a survey question asking 'what makes this site better than all others' and as multiple choice answers he listed: video quality, interface/player options, video quantity and site text. You'll chuckle when you read that only 3% of the thousands of people responding chose site text as the primary factor that made this their site of choice. However the site owner had a different reaction, he realized 30 out of every thousand members said the text on his site was retaining their interest. When you consider that the text was intended to please search engines and entice tour visitors to convert... the fact that 3% of his members listed text ahead of video or interface is significant... and even more likely would have chosen it as their second or third choice.

This thread has gotten more than 1000 views on less than 100 posts. The one thing readers can all take away from that fact is that text is very interesting when it is well-written and about a topic the reader enjoys. In the case of his thread, webmaster drama text is improving retention ... In the case of other sites the topics change but the impact remains noticeable. I appreciate your time and effort in helping me to demo my abilities as a writer, and I am confident a writer willing to do 10,000 scenes for 500 bucks would have had a significantly weaker ability to keep people interested in their work. ;)

Well we'll just take your word for it.
Since you can produce ZERO other than that for us to go on.

12clicks 02-29-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18790707)
I have plenty of people willing to act as references for my work.
That doesn't mean they would want to waste their time answering your idiotic posts.
You are a liar who becomes less relevant with each passing day.
Find something else to do with your time. Your opinions and lies have no value.

Liar?
Son, I had Cyndalie fire you because what you gave us was shit.

Anyone who you've done GOOD work for would gladly post here just as anyone who's done good work for me I'd have no problem defending with a SINGLE post.

It's a simple thing unless your a chatboard pretender.


Son, pretending only takes you do far.
That's why you haven't been to a show in 5 years. Airlines don't accept pretend currency. :thumbsup

Relentless 02-29-2012 08:06 PM

Ronald,

People continue to rehire me over and over and over again. Many of my clients have worked with me for years on a variety of projects. That's how I know they like my work. New clients can easily get references about me from business owners they already know, clearly stating that my work is excellent and that I am a trusted part of their operations. My clients don't need to prove anything by arguing with a liar like you on GFY. You are important only to yourself. :2 cents:

12clicks 02-29-2012 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18790783)
Ronald,

People continue to rehire me over and over and over again. Many of my clients have worked with me for years on a variety of projects. That's how I know they like my work. New clients can easily get references from business owners they already know, clearly stating that my work is excellent and that I am a trusted part of their operations. My clients don't need to prove anything by arguing with a liar like you on GFY. You are important only to yourself. :2 cents:

Or said another way, your imaginary clients can't post in the real world.:1orglaugh

Your name is still to this day a joke in my office. Any time we farm out work and it comes back below par, someone always busts out the "is this relentless under a new name" line.
We all laugh.

How much you wanna bet I can ask Cyn to dig up the icq convo where she fired you tomorrow morning?

Relentless 02-29-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18790789)
More lies...

As with most lies, your story continues to change. Earlier you were claiming it was you who 'fired me', now it's Cyndalie who supposedly 'fired me.' What actually happened is you sent me a check and told me you were very pleased with the work. So pleased in fact that you supplied a testimonial for my site. I had to use the wayback machine to find an older version of my site showing your testimonial since I had removed it long ago. You should be able to see it here: http://web.archive.org/web/200807012...imonials4.html


So Ronald, were you lying to the adult webmaster community then, when you posted the testimonial on my site for other site owners to read, or are you lying now? Either way, there is little doubt at this point that you are are in fact a liar and therefore pretty much anything else you have to say carries very little weight. :2 cents:

12clicks 02-29-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18790816)
As with most lies, your story continues to change. Earlier you were claiming it was you who 'fired me', now it's Cyndalie who supposedly 'fired me.' What actually happened is you sent me a check and told me you were very pleased with the work. So pleased in fact that you posted a testimonial on my site. I had to use the wayback machine to find an older version of my site showing your testimonial since I had removed it long ago. You should be able to see it here: http://web.archive.org/web/200807012...imonials4.html


So Ronald, were you lying to the adult webmaster community then, when you posted the testimonial on my site for other site owners to read, or are you lying now? Either way, there is little doubt at this point that you are are in fact a liar and therefore pretty much anything else you have to say carries very little weight. :2 cents:

Since I own my company, anything I direct my people to do is what I do.
I couldn't be nice about you wasting my time so I asked Cyndalie to handle it.
Now, about the bullshit you have on your site that you claim was written by me, I'd say this:
People, not only is relentless incompetent and great at making false claims about his abilities, but it seems he'll falsely attribute glowing testimonials to you that he's written.

My advice is to avoid him at all costs. After 5 years pretending to be in this biz, he's learned nothing and what he offers as a service can be done better by Filipinos.

12clicks 02-29-2012 08:45 PM

Odd that not a single person you've done work for will say a good word about you

12clicks 02-29-2012 08:49 PM

It's funny watching bottom rungers spin out their lies amongst people who actually conduct business here.
See you in Phoenix?
Oh right, you've got excuses for not being able to afford shows too.
Hahahaha

Relentless 02-29-2012 08:54 PM

Liar now or liar then Ronald? No answer eh? Why don't you think up a lie about it and go with that...

My clients are all excellent references. They don't post in your silly pissing contests on GFY.
If they did, you'd just lie about them or to them as well.
That's the problem with you being a liar. What you say has no value.

harvey 02-29-2012 09:00 PM

I has 100 test descrictions! :thumbsup

12clicks 02-29-2012 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18790834)
Liar now or liar then Ronald? No answer eh? Why don't you think up a lie about it and go with that...

My clients are all excellent references. They don't post in your silly pissing contests on GFY.
If they did, you'd just lie about them or to them as well.
That's the problem with you being a liar. What you say has no value.

Liar?
Son, I fired you because when it comes to text, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. When it comes to SEO, you know even less. That's why I fired you.
If I had known you put a false testimonial on your site, I'd have had it removed by your host.

So to answer your question, you were a liar then and you're a liar now.

But imaginary business is based on lies.
So go on, little girl, trot out the next lie to gain another penny a word job.
Christ, how pathetic. :1orglaugh

Relentless 02-29-2012 09:29 PM

Earlier in this thread and in other threads you have stated you did supply a testimonial. You also said cyndalie fired me? Now it's you again and you didnt supply one? haha Are you that poor a liar that you can't even keep your false story straight for the length of a whole thread. What happened to you Ronald? If you don't like me that's fine. If you prefer not to work with me, that's very much mutual.

That being said, your lies are silly and very transparent. You aren't fooling anyone.

VenusBlogger 03-01-2012 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18784170)
Almost correct English is not correct English, and you can be sure Google knows the difference between the two.

If you are suggesting that Google will send more traffic to a perfect native written article, and less traffic to a very well written article but with a few grammar errors, you are completely wrong... It doesn't work that way.

12clicks 03-01-2012 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18790873)
Earlier in this thread and in other threads you have stated you did supply a testimonial. You also said cyndalie fired me? Now it's you again and you didnt supply one? haha Are you that poor a liar that you can't even keep your false story straight for the length of a whole thread. What happened to you Ronald? If you don't like me that's fine. If you prefer not to work with me, that's very much mutual.

That being said, your lies are silly and very transparent. You aren't fooling anyone.

I told Cyndalie to fire you and pay you.
I also didn't supply you with that false testimonial. I gave you boilerplate. who knows where you invented what you actually put up.
anyway, you wasted our time when you offered to work for us, were fired, and we never used you again. considering we have many many more websites than we started with, the fact that we never used you again even though you claim we got along just fine until years later speaks volumes about your work.


your spin may vary. :thumbsup

Relentless 03-01-2012 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 18791083)
If you are suggesting that Google will send more traffic to a perfect native written article, and less traffic to a very well written article but with a few grammar errors, you are completely wrong... It doesn't work that way.

I am suggesting a site with ten thousand poorly written texts will not do as well as the exact same site would do with ten thousand well-written texts. Content spinners and morphing text are notorious for agreement errors, incorrect pluralization and other basic grammar failures. So are bad writers. Poorly written text also results in lower time on site, higher bounce rates and unhelpful keyword density. On a site with 10,000 text items published, as the original poster requested, the aggregate of errors can be significant. More likely, the 500 dollar writer will just run text through a content spinner and repost it, claiming all the errors are original poorly written text rather than the even more unhelpful duplicate content they actually represent.

On a tube targeting free porn surfers you don't need a Pulitzer prize winning author, but there is still a big difference between a competent writer and an incompetent one. On a project where you are actually trying to sell a product or service, spelling or grammar errors can have a devastating impact on sales ratios. People distrust sites and companies that 'can't even proofread their own website' and literate people are immediately distracted by text errors which interrupt any intended sales pitch.

Relentless 03-01-2012 06:47 AM

Keep lying Ronald. There is no point in continuing to discuss things with you.
Any time you are cornered by reason, you lie in a pathetic attempt to deflect or reinvent the situation.
That makes talking with you a complete wast of time.
We both know the truth, and so do my clients.

12clicks 03-01-2012 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18791435)
Keep lying Ronald. There is no point in continuing to discuss things with you.
Any time you are cornered by reason, you lie in a pathetic attempt to deflect or reinvent the situation.
That makes talking with you a complete wast of time.
We both know the truth, and so do my clients.

you were fired. your work was less than worthless since we had to re-do it all. calling me a liar won't change that. :thumbsup

sucks when reality interferes with your internet fairytale, eh?

Relentless 03-01-2012 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 18791466)
Lying Again...

Strange that so many successful companies would hire and rehire me over and over again to work on their sites, and that the '12x empire of high quality paysites' :1orglaugh is the only one that claims any problem ever existed. It really isn't hard to see through your lies Ronald. The only thing worse than a liar, is a bad liar. Congrats on showing yourself to be one.

Cyndalie 03-01-2012 07:35 AM

I rarely post and don't get involved with drama, but I remember it was ModF who actually fired him paying him about 1/3 of way through and not using him again. I was stuck having to get it redone eventually. We DO still laugh about what he thought was good text when the subject comes up in the office.

12clicks 03-01-2012 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 18791513)
Strange that so many successful companies would hire and rehire me over and over again to work on their sites,

well I guess we could take you at your word on that..............:1orglaugh

modF 03-01-2012 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyndalie (Post 18791562)
I rarely post and don't get involved with drama, but I remember it was ModF who actually fired him paying him about 1/3 of way through and not using him again. I was stuck having to get it redone eventually. We DO still laugh about what he thought was good text when the subject comes up in the office.

I don't remember if that was me or someone else who fired him, it was about 100 internet years ago after all. I'd have to reboot into another OS to check icq history back that far, and I don't care enough to do so. However, I do recall someone firing, paying the bill and getting all new sites done.

Relentless 03-01-2012 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyndalie (Post 18791562)
This Space For Rent

Thanks for your paid commentary Cyn. I hope your employment remains in good standing. The work I was asked to do was done completely. Ronald thanked me at the time and sent payment in full. He then went on to supply a testimonial about the quality of my work as previously posted in this thread.

What I find even more strange is the fact that you referred other companies to me for text work. In fact, when I began writing for Fubar, it was based largely on your recommendation, and I recall you being a reference for my work a number of times years ago. I am still very thankful for your willingness to tell others to hire me. At the start of my career your advice and assistance was very helpful, and when I work with new webmasters or provide free advice to them it is often because people like you went out of their way to help me at a time when I was not in a position to reciprocate. I will always appreciate you for that. :thumbsup

Relentless 03-01-2012 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by modF (Post 18791592)
I don't remember if that was me or someone else who fired him, it was about 100 internet years ago after all. I'd have to reboot into another OS to check icq history back that far, and I don't care enough to do so. However, I do recall someone firing, paying the bill and getting all new sites done.

You aren't even on my ICQ list... so I doubt we have ever actually spoken in the past. It was in fact 100 internet years ago and it was a tiny job. Thanks for checking in though, it's nice to see all of Ronald's employees posting their agreement with their boss. :2 cents:

Relentless 03-01-2012 08:03 AM

Cyndalie,

What exactly did you mean in this thread on GFY:
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=8758...ght=enginefood

The thread was titled "Need solid text writer!!" which seems pretty easy to understand. You were so enthusiastic you actually were the first person to reply
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Originally Posted by Cyndalie (Post 15203289)
EngineFood.com
Relentless is one of the best!

I hope your employment remains stable. I know Ronald is a liar and whatever he promises you should always be taken with a grain of salt...

Relentless 03-01-2012 08:11 AM

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=7402...ght=Relentless
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Originally Posted by Cyndalie (Post 12567309)
Relentless is the best I know at it. and yes Text really can help increase conversions by making average content appear to have flavor and add a unique personality to the stie.


B.Barnato 03-01-2012 08:17 AM

Wow:1orglaugh

This Space For Rent indeed.

Relentless 03-01-2012 08:30 AM

It's amazing how far off track this thread went. Just to reiterate, if you are paying $500 for 10,000 scenes of text, you likely are not getting content of any real value. :2 cents:

12clicks 03-01-2012 08:42 AM

hahahaha, keep digging, dipshit.

I'm sure you thought it was cute to try pissing up at your betters. Sadly for you, I have a long term memory and long term employees who were there.

you were a joke then and a lying joke now.

Relentless 03-01-2012 08:47 AM

Ronald... do you really think people do not notice your name-calling fails to address the facts posted in this thread?

Here are a couple more links for you to look up:
http://hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah...ght=Relentless
Thread Title: Any Trusted Writers Here?
Cyndalie Says: "Relentless is the best I know."

http://hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah...ght=enginefood
From 09-28-2009, years after I had completed your work and gotten a testimonial as to its quality, Cyndalie was still recommending EngineFood

I know you were banned from that board and that you subsequently required Cyndalie and your other employees stop posting there. I find it ironic that you are now reversing course and requiring your employees to actively post here. It doesn't make your lies any more believable. It just makes it easier for me to disprove them. :2 cents:


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