Advantages of mainstream

[meka2003]

1. U can use digg, twitter, facebook, youtube without shame

[signupdamnit]

#1 - Lack of fucking idiots and scumbags giving away for free what you are trying to sell.
#2 - Lack of brainless morons kissing the asses of the idiots giving it all away.

This sums most of it right up!

[porno jew]

i use all those for adult anyway.

and mainstream is filled with so many scammers and shitbags it makes the worst of adult look like virgin momma's boys.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

#1 - Lack of fucking idiots and scumbags giving away for free what you are trying to sell.
#2 - Lack of brainless morons kissing the asses of the idiots giving it all away.

This sums most of it right up!

Guess you are unfamiliar with mainstream.

[anexsia]

Disadvantages of Mainstream:
You don't make websites filled with nude girls all day

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by baddog

Guess you are unfamiliar with mainstream.

Mainstream is a big term. It depends on what you are selling. But in general Manwin and the filelockers aren't in Mainstream giving away free TVs, computer hardware and cars by the millions everyday, are they?

You have to be an idiot in the first degree to not understand that if someone gives away the product for free it's going to hurt your sales of that product. It's the most basic of business sense and economics. But still somehow in this industry there is no shortage of whores who are more than willing to swallow the cock of a pirate so they can stick around for another year.

[jimmycooper]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Mainstream is a big term. It depends on what you are selling. But in general Manwin and the filelockers aren't in Mainstream giving away free TVs, computer hardware and cars by the millions everyday, are they?

You have to be an idiot in the first degree to not understand that if someone gives away the product for free it's going to hurt your sales of that product. It's the most basic of business sense and economics. But still somehow in this industry there is no shortage of whores who are more than willing to swallow the cock of a pirate so they can stick around for another year.

Have you heard of these little things called newspapers and magazines?

The vast majority of all np/mag online content is supported by ad revenue. The WSJ can get away with a pay model because the WSJ is the WSJ. The NYT just implemented a digital subscription model last summer (see here) and it seems to be working this time, but their last attempt to do so with TimesSelect was widely regarded as a complete and utter failure.

In case you weren't aware, writing for such publications requires an impressive college degree. IE, not from just some shit college. And then once they get the job, journalists with advanced degrees from Ivy League schools have to essentially compete for airtime with uneducated snarky bloggers while scrapers are ripping their content.

Here are bunch of other sites where ad revenue has replaced product revenue.

http://www.iac.com/Our-Businesses/

Did you know that once upon a time people used to have to actually go to the store to buy a Thesaurus? Crazy stuff.

Anyway, I suggest that you should try to either write less or be smarter.

[porno jew]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

Mainstream is a big term. It depends on what you are selling. But in general Manwin and the filelockers aren't in Mainstream giving away free TVs, computer hardware and cars by the millions everyday, are they?

You have to be an idiot in the first degree to not understand that if someone gives away the product for free it's going to hurt your sales of that product. It's the most basic of business sense and economics. But still somehow in this industry there is no shortage of whores who are more than willing to swallow the cock of a pirate so they can stick around for another year.

ever hear of craigslist? giving classifieds away from free pretty much hollowed out your local print newspaper and all the real jobs that it provided. you should check it out.

[ErectMedia]

I do both, adult is easier for me as been doing it since 2002-2003 so less testing needed. Mainstream is nice cause can advertise anywhere and print pens, window decals etc... without worrying about who sees it. Launched 1 mainstream site few weeks ago and working on another partnership as we speak pending approval which I should get as having mainstream sites already in motion helps approval process. Basically going through hundreds of .com domains from 1999-2012 and picking out the strongest ones and developing or forming partnerships. Thinking the mainstream income will likely overcome the adult income in the near future.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

You have to be an idiot in the first degree to not understand that if someone gives away the product for free it's going to hurt your sales of that product. It's the most basic of business sense and economics. But still somehow in this industry there is no shortage of whores who are more than willing to swallow the cock of a pirate so they can stick around for another year.

Many mainstream businesses built their business around giving away free items/information and continue to do so today. The "business sense and economics" of this method is buying/producing a product for X and using that product to leverage Y in revenues elsewhere.

[adultforum]

I have few good mainstream .com domains for sale, if anybody is interested in them, pls let me know.

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Have you heard of these little things called newspapers and magazines?

The vast majority of all np/mag online content is supported by ad revenue. The WSJ can get away with a pay model because the WSJ is the WSJ. The NYT just implemented a digital subscription model last summer (see here) and it seems to be working this time, but their last attempt to do so with TimesSelect was widely regarded as a complete and utter failure.

In case you weren't aware, writing for such publications requires an impressive college degree. IE, not from just some shit college. And then once they get the job, journalists with advanced degrees from Ivy League schools have to essentially compete for airtime with uneducated snarky bloggers while scrapers are ripping their content.

Here are bunch of other sites where ad revenue has replaced product revenue.

http://www.iac.com/Our-Businesses/

Did you know that once upon a time people used to have to actually go to the store to buy a Thesaurus? Crazy stuff.

Anyway, I suggest that you should try to either write less or be smarter.

If you re-read my post you should see that I stated "it depends on the product being sold" and "...it's going to hurt your sales of that product". Obviously there is a significant difference between a thesaurus and porn. Obviously if your revenue model is ad based you are not directly selling paysites any longer.

The shills and ass kissers can say what they want but take a look at the industry and compare it to what it was like in 1999. Compare Go Fuck Yourself now to what it was a decade ago. Look around you. Look at your own bottom line. For most of you the scumbags (theives) handing out for free what you used to sell have only hurt you. But for some of you here up is down and left is right. This industry hasn't came to the point it is now because most of you are Mensa candidates.

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by Sly

Many mainstream businesses built their business around giving away free items/information and continue to do so today. The "business sense and economics" of this method is buying/producing a product for X and using that product to leverage Y in revenues elsewhere.

I'm well aware of this which is why I made sure to be precise with my wording. But even so the ROI on paysite sales in 1999 was astronomical. In general the ROI on properly licensing content and selling ads for other goods or services is no where near this. The ROI is far less overall. Yes there are a few companies who have grown as a result of the transition but there are others factors involved. It hasn't occured solely for the ROI being greater in and of itself. One of those factors for example was that they basically stole most of their content.

[scouser]

Originally Posted by meka2003

1. U can use digg, twitter, facebook, youtube without shame

is digg worth using now a days? guess easier to get on homepage. ive not spammed it for years.

twitter you can use adult

youtube you can kinda use adult

(facebook no no)

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by porno jew

ever hear of craigslist? giving classifieds away from free pretty much hollowed out your local print newspaper and all the real jobs that it provided. you should check it out.

1. What Craigslist did was perfectly legal and ethical. There was no theft involved whatsoever. They are not stealing someone elses product and giving it away free.

2. Your example only supports my point. What was the value of all the newspapers which folded or lost revenue as compared to the revenue Craigslist currently takes in? Likely Craigslists take in a mere fraction of what the newspapers have lost.

But don't get me wrong. Technology has to change. But this does not mean theft is justified or that a given industry will always benefit financially from such change.