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Old 11-18-2011, 07:11 AM   #1
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Ladies and gentlemen, I'm about to travel through time, I bid you adieu

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15791236

"""The team behind the finding in September that neutrinos may travel faster than light has carried out an improved version of their experiment - and found the same result."""




pretty amazing stuff.
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:14 AM   #2
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:15 AM   #3
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i knew about this back in high school when i did a report on the 4th dimension.

you can actually plot this on a graph to see it.
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:23 AM   #4
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i knew about this back in high school when i did a report on the 4th dimension.

you can actually plot this on a graph to see it.
I knew about this one night over a bowl of icecream
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:24 AM   #5
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lol i remember that thread
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Old 11-18-2011, 07:54 AM   #6
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:01 AM   #7
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I'm thinking this also proves my icecream hypothesis of time travel being impossible as the neutrinos would have arrived before they where ready for them otherwise. no?
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wow that is very cool.. anyone outside cern attempting this?
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Old 11-18-2011, 09:58 AM   #10
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I can't wait to see if they deal with this on a future episode of Big Bang Theory. Sending neutrinos through rock is one thing, but can they go through clothes?

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at 1,44 mb per disk that will be a huge box of disks

try CDs, they already existed in 1996
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"""The team behind the finding in September that neutrinos may travel faster than light has carried out an improved version of their experiment - and found the same result."""




pretty amazing stuff.
Amazingly wrong?

http://arstechnica.com/science/news/...oose-cable.ars
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Since September, scientists have been scratching their head over results that appear to show neutrinos traveling between Switzerland and Italy faster than light would. As far as anyone could tell, the team behind the results had done everything they could to eliminate errors, and had even released some preliminary data that had strengthened their results. But the results remained difficult to square with everything else we know about how the Universe operates.

But now, ScienceInsider is reporting that there was a good reason the measurements and reality weren't lining up: a loose fiber optic cable was causing one of the atomic clocks used to time the neutrinos' flight to produce spurious results.
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yes douche bag, mojo felt the need to text me about this last night.

however, wouldn't light being unable to escape the gravity of a black hole hint at the possibility of particles moving faster than light?

if not that, then wouldn't the fact that some black holes spew jets of matter into space hint or actually prove that matter can travel faster than the speed of light?
If light can't escape its gravity but these other particles are spewed FROM the black hole (essentially escaping its gravity) then these particles would have to be traveling faster than light. no?

(this theory has been tapped out over a starbucks coffee and banana, not icecream. There by hinting at another theory that icecream was not the catalyst for my first ground breaking theory)
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there is a glitch in their system,. they have to do all tests again.
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Eiensteins ghost's been fuckin around wit da cables... hehe
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If light can't escape its gravity but these other particles are spewed FROM the black hole (essentially escaping its gravity) then these particles would have to be traveling faster than light. no?
I'm not Stephen Hawking, but I'm pretty sure things aren't spewed FROM a black hole, they are swallowed and compacted in the core by gravitational forces.
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I've never been able to grasp how the fuck the speed of light has anything to do with time travel. But if it were possible to travel into the future by traveling faster than the speed of light, then surely everything must be pitch fucking black?!

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I'm not Stephen Hawking, but I'm pretty sure things aren't spewed FROM a black hole, they are swallowed and compacted in the core by gravitational forces.
you, my friend, have not been paying attention to the latest space discoveries.

google "black holes spew matter"
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I'm not Stephen Hawking, but I'm pretty sure things aren't spewed FROM a black hole, they are swallowed and compacted in the core by gravitational forces.
But if something can escape from a black hole, while light can't, then surely that something must be traveling faster than light...
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"""The team behind the finding in September that neutrinos may travel faster than light has carried out an improved version of their experiment - and found the same result."""




pretty amazing stuff.
I'm afraid I'm sticking with Einstein on this one. Good luck to you though. Have a speedy trip otherwise.
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But if something can escape from a black hole, while light can't, then surely that something must be traveling faster than light...
It doesn't work like that. Black holes don't let anything escape, not even light.

What we see are actually Quasars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasar

Huge clouds of gas that are right near a supermassive blackhole and due to the huge gravitational forces around the blackhole, some particules are actually ejected at very high speeds BEFORE reaching the event horizon. Particles that are past the event horizon don't "ever" make it back.

"Ever" is however a relative term for if you wait more than 10 to the power 100 years , after all the stars died out and everything is pitch black ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe ) , even black holes will start to evaporate - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation - and slowly start to lose their mass
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Actually, it's -- $15!

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