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BSleazy 02-26-2012 07:25 PM

I'm trying to add Linux Mint to my laptop and it won't fucking boot from the dvdr when i start it up. Any ideas?

MattPIVO 02-26-2012 07:38 PM

Not surprised with the Linux usage....thought I would see more Mac users though? Is it just me?

CS-Jay 02-26-2012 07:41 PM

Did you burn a ISO bootable dvd?

BSleazy 02-26-2012 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CS-Jay (Post 18783237)
Did you burn a ISO bootable dvd?

Probably not. I don't do much dvd burning. I just downloaded the no-codec cd version and I'm about to try that.

BSleazy 02-26-2012 07:59 PM

WTF, it says I'm 58.6MB short on the cd. Anything I can delete to fit what's needed?

TheSenator 02-26-2012 08:02 PM

I have to use a platform that works with the majority of users.

So, I use Windows first...then Mac shit...

fuzebox 02-26-2012 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 18783091)
I always wondered instead of 45 different version of linux . Why dont they unite and create one killer one?

Linux fanatics are not unlike GFYers.

bronco67 02-26-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18772505)
Well the caching bug introduced in IE 4 still hasn't been fixed. That's why jpegs still sometimes save as bmp and one reason IE seems slow - it doesn't cache right. Want 36,429 other examples?

Big fucking deal. I create lengthy 3d animations, composite with After Effects, edit and sound design them on Windows -- very well I might add. If I can do all of that without much technical hassle, your jpeg problem doesn't exactly sound like a problem.

raymor 02-26-2012 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18783069)
windows is the only system that lets me concentrate on my work instead of wasting time on looking for solutions to problems that i dont have when i use windows

Let's guess that fifteen years ago or whenever you spent 40 hours learning to use Windows. Since then, you've spent 30 hours per year dealing with new problems or questions. So maybe 490 hours over the last fifteen years, and you can spend another 150 goes over the next five years.

Compare spending 20 hours to learn a better system (Linux) which will have FAR fewer problems once you know it, so maybe 50 hours over tne next five years.

Do you invest for the long term, or focus on this week, or the crap you're accustomed to?

raymor 02-26-2012 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18783415)
Big fucking deal. I create lengthy 3d animations, composite with After Effects, edit and sound design them on Windows -- very well I might add. If I can do all of that without much technical hassle, your jpeg problem doesn't exactly sound like a problem.

And 16 years later they might fix their shit so your animation runs without pegging the CPU at 100%. You can do a lot of things on Windows. You can even do two or three things that actually work right.

raymor 02-26-2012 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 18783091)
I always wondered instead of 45 different version of linux . Why dont they unite and create one killer one?


There are projects standardizing the stuff that benefits from being the same. Different people have different needs, though, so they have choices. The cool thing is that means Linux can never have a debacle like Vista, instead it can only get a better. One distro can try something and if it sucks no other distro us affected, beijing maybe gaining new users. If the new idea works well, the other distros start including it. So each distro is a little laboratory for new ideas and only the stuff that works well gets picked up by the others.

raymor 02-26-2012 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18783133)
wine is your friend
http://www.winehq.org/


gimp is terrible.

Wine let's you being Windows' problems to Linux. It's normally not the optimal path. Normally you are better off finding out which Linux software does the job best. Wine is useful for one-off proprietary software like online poker where you HAVE to use one vendor's software. Plan on using it no more than once every five years for best results. Rather, learn the Linux tools which are almost always free and open, and are often better in some ways. You can easily try several software choices to see what works best for you because there's no cost, no registration, no artificial limits.

anexsia 02-26-2012 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18783428)
Let's guess that fifteen years ago or whenever you spent 40 hours learning to use Windows. Since then, you've spent 30 hours per year dealing with new problems or questions. So maybe 490 hours over the last fifteen years, and you can spend another 150 goes over the next five years.

Compare spending 20 hours to learn a better system (Linux) which will have FAR fewer problems once you know it, so maybe 50 hours over tne next five years.

Do you invest for the long term, or focus on this week, or the crap you're accustomed to?

Every individual is going to have different experiences.

I love linux and right now dual boot Arch Linux and Windows 7 and have another computer with Debian installed.

When it comes to Windows, the last problem or question I remember having was way back during the Windows 98 days, from Windows XP and up I can't think of a single issue that I've ever had except for a blue screen and that was because I wasn't giving my memory enough voltage to power it's overclock. Every time I build a new computer and put a fresh install of Windows on everything goes super smooth and I never have any problems and can't recall having a virus in years.

With that said...if I didn't game as much as I do I would gladly replace Windows with linux and that's because I love to tinker with different distros and have the option to completely customize my system.

V_RocKs 02-27-2012 12:19 AM

Unfortunately the speed losses of not having Photoshop and it's familiar keyboard shortcuts necessitates the need for Windows...

V_RocKs 02-27-2012 03:39 AM

And if switching... or even if not...

I highly suggest http://www.lastpass.com

It remembers your passwords for you. Even does pincode+user+pass types of logins... It is only $12 or something like that for the premium which adds it to your phone. But free is 100% usable too.


(BTW, there is nothing like virtually updating your virtualbox Windows installation...)

Coup 02-27-2012 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18783445)
Wine let's you being Windows' problems to Linux. It's normally not the optimal path. Normally you are better off finding out which Linux software does the job best. Wine is useful for one-off proprietary software like online poker where you HAVE to use one vendor's software. Plan on using it no more than once every five years for best results. Rather, learn the Linux tools which are almost always free and open, and are often better in some ways. You can easily try several software choices to see what works best for you because there's no cost, no registration, no artificial limits.

I agree pretty much, but if ya dont wanna give up on using things like photoshop, dreamweaver, whatever you don't really absolutely have to. my post was directed at folks who wanna have it like dat dawg

h00ligan 02-27-2012 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 18783256)
Probably not. I don't do much dvd burning. I just downloaded the no-codec cd version and I'm about to try that.

not sure if stupid or a troll..

DamianJ 02-27-2012 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 18783143)
You cannot help being a little prick...

For a start, since running dedicated servers, I've always used Linux OS. :eatme

Gary

a) This is about linux desktop, which you've never installed and wouldn't know what a command line was if I drew you a picture of one

b) You didn't install or manage the *nix on your server. You paid someone else to

You've got nothing of any worth to contribute to this.

Cam94 02-27-2012 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CS-Jay (Post 18771604)
After using Ubuntu and Mint, I'm a huge mint fan. That is the same reasons I want to switch. And to dev as well. I can always reboot for photoshop.

I installed Mint three days ago and it runs a lot faster than ubuntu. I wish I would have known about Mint years ago. Have you found any similar OS's to Mint that you like better than Mint?

Cam94 02-27-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 18771631)
You actually think there's never been a trojan that infects Linux? :error

Im sure theres trojans for linux, I've never had one in the two years of running linux. Windows on the other hard, can get a virus just from looking at it wrong.

Coup 02-27-2012 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18783850)
Gary

a) This is about linux desktop, which you've never installed and wouldn't know what a command line was if I drew you a picture of one

b) You didn't install or manage the *nix on your server. You paid someone else to

You've got nothing of any worth to contribute to this.

Do you two faggots have to shit up every god damn thread with your tired ass bullshit?

MaDalton 02-27-2012 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raymor (Post 18783428)
Let's guess that fifteen years ago or whenever you spent 40 hours learning to use Windows. Since then, you've spent 30 hours per year dealing with new problems or questions. So maybe 490 hours over the last fifteen years, and you can spend another 150 goes over the next five years.

Compare spending 20 hours to learn a better system (Linux) which will have FAR fewer problems once you know it, so maybe 50 hours over tne next five years.

Do you invest for the long term, or focus on this week, or the crap you're accustomed to?

i hardly ever deal with Windows problems. And i have no time or interest in investing new time in problems i dont have now.

i tried Linux, wasnt for me.

i worked with Mac OS 7,8 and 9 - and Mac OS X - wasnt for me.

i am happy - i run Windows 2011 SBS with about 10 Windows 7 clients and it works. i do my updates and backups, other than that i have no issues.

also i have a Microsoft Action Pack membership, so i get all their latest stuff with enough license numbers for like $300 a year

i wont try anything else unless Windows becomes completely unusable

CS-Jay 02-27-2012 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 18783259)
WTF, it says I'm 58.6MB short on the cd. Anything I can delete to fit what's needed?

If you can, burn the dvd iso to dvd. Use the full install. Don't bother with the CD one. If you can burn a dvd, just right click the iso image on windows and burn to dvd. I'm pretty sure that how I do it.

Then make sure your laptop is bootable from cd. Email me if you have questions.

CS-Jay 02-27-2012 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cam94 (Post 18784124)
I installed Mint three days ago and it runs a lot faster than ubuntu. I wish I would have known about Mint years ago. Have you found any similar OS's to Mint that you like better than Mint?

I had used unbuntu on and off. With the last update I was turned off. Then I found Mint and I really like it. I haven't found anything else I like so far.

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Originally Posted by Cam94 (Post 18784134)
Im sure theres trojans for linux, I've never had one in the two years of running linux. Windows on the other hard, can get a virus just from looking at it wrong.

I think they are called rootkits. But there are far less exploits to Linux desktops than Windows.

react 02-27-2012 11:29 AM

Linux is great until you try to do a/v/media stuff. Then its Mac.

vdbucks 02-27-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CS-Jay (Post 18770340)
I'm thinking about going all Linux Mint, and getting rid of the windows. They have everything I need, chrome/firefox, thunderbird, statsremote, netbeans, office, gimp(not the best) and video editors. I think I could realistically do this.

Hell there is even a program to control two pcs with one mouse keyboard!

Anyone have any advice on making the convert?

I run windows 7 as my main currently. I do absolutely everything except gaming and photoshop in a linux virtual machine (running Linux Mint Debian)

I could live without photoshop if I had to but my machine is plenty powerful enough to run my VM, and not having to reboot when i want to take a break and do some gaming is nice.. so while I haven't dropped windows completely, 95% of my time is spent in my linux VM.

No problem at all dropping win and going with lin. Sooner or later microcrap is going to lose it's dominating hold on game developers and once that happens, opengl will be used more and more... which means native games being run in linux... and when that happens, it's all over for windows imho.

Emil 02-27-2012 11:59 AM

http://zorin-os.com/ - Linux made to look as much as Windows as possible.

DamianJ 02-27-2012 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18784178)
Do you two faggots have to shit up every god damn thread with your tired ass bullshit?

Feel free to put me on ignore and 'rm -rf'* me, rather than further fuck up the thread with your tired ass bullshit. Homes.





*A joke Gary, the *nix expert, won't get

BladeZ 02-27-2012 12:06 PM

Windows for games and photoshop,ubuntu for surfing and mail,why not use both :)

CS-Jay 02-27-2012 02:38 PM

I think the virtual machine is a awesome idea. I might just start with that. Just to get used it everything.

d-null 02-27-2012 02:41 PM

the world would be better off if more pc's were running linux, and it is a joke that Microsoft makes money off of the average consumer who only uses their pc to listen to music and go on facebook, linux could easily do all that for free

us more technically competent people should be leading the way toward a future with more linux and less micro$oft :2 cents:

MaDalton 02-27-2012 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18785141)
the world would be better off if more pc's were running linux, and it is a joke that Microsoft makes money off of the average consumer who only uses their pc to listen to music and go on facebook, linux could easily do all that for free

us more technically competent people should be leading the way toward a future with more linux and less micro$oft :2 cents:

there's a reason why the PC market is shrinking and tablets are growing - most people dont need more than that

CS-Jay 02-27-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 18785141)
the world would be better off if more pc's were running linux, and it is a joke that Microsoft makes money off of the average consumer who only uses their pc to listen to music and go on facebook, linux could easily do all that for free

us more technically competent people should be leading the way toward a future with more linux and less micro$oft :2 cents:

Imagine if you could get your parents, aunts, uncles or anyone a bit older on a linux distro. You wouldn't have to spend every visit to their house uninstalling spyware, or installing anti-virus. If all they need it for is email and music, so simple.

tony286 02-27-2012 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Emil (Post 18784695)
http://zorin-os.com/ - Linux made to look as much as Windows as possible.

Thx for this. i put it on my netbook. I really like it.

ArsewithClass 02-27-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18783850)
Gary

This is about linux desktop, which you've never installed and wouldn't know what a command line was if I drew you a picture of one

You've got nothing of any worth to contribute to this.

You said I didn't know what linux was... that's incorrect isn't it!? Whether I have installed on a desktop or not is irrelevant...

When are you going to post something worthy of the thread? cock :helpme

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coup (Post 18784178)
Do you two faggots have to shit up every god damn thread with your tired ass bullshit?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 18784715)
Feel free to put me on ignore and 'rm -rf'* me, rather than further fuck up the thread with your tired ass bullshit. Homes.

*A joke Gary, the *nix expert, won't get




Coup... don't bring me into his bullshit :helpme

He's the frigging faggot always causing shit. When have you ever seen me give a negative comment to anyone on this board :2 cents:

Question for you Coup... Notice, the only posts on this thread from the weasel, are "jokes" towards me... some kind of frigging loony toon. I am right in thinking this is a forum for everyone to post & enjoy themselves on, aren't I?

So I'm right in thinking, this thread would have had no twattish comments, if it wasn't for faggot face Damian.

After 3 or 4 yrs of constant harassment, isn't it time he had his arse banned from this place if he annoys you too?

BSleazy 02-27-2012 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CS-Jay (Post 18784297)
If you can, burn the dvd iso to dvd. Use the full install. Don't bother with the CD one. If you can burn a dvd, just right click the iso image on windows and burn to dvd. I'm pretty sure that how I do it.

Then make sure your laptop is bootable from cd. Email me if you have questions.

I ended up getting it installed from a flash drive.

bns666 02-27-2012 06:07 PM

linux mint is ok, i have it on one older pc and works much better than windows.

however using win7 for most of the work.

vdbucks 02-27-2012 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CS-Jay (Post 18785134)
I think the virtual machine is a awesome idea. I might just start with that. Just to get used it everything.

It's really the best way to go if your system is powerful enough to handle it and you're either unsure about leaving windows completely, want to get a good feel for linux before making the change, or if you're bound to windows programs.

I personally use virtualbox at the moment, but vmware is pretty good as well albeit a high price tag.

There is one caveat to running a setup like this though, graphics support is quite limited, so it's not the best solution if you want to have a ton of eye candy, or play games and whatnot.

anexsia 02-27-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by vdbucks (Post 18785783)
It's really the best way to go if your system is powerful enough to handle it and you're either unsure about leaving windows completely, want to get a good feel for linux before making the change, or if you're bound to windows programs.

I personally use virtualbox at the moment, but vmware is pretty good as well albeit a high price tag.

There is one caveat to running a setup like this though, graphics support is quite limited, so it's not the best solution if you want to have a ton of eye candy, or play games and whatnot.

I used to love running Virtualbox. I used to have an Intel Xeon X3210 and running linux in Virtualbox was perfect...everything was fast and almost seamless and then I recently got an Intel i5 2500k and realized how much having the Xeon Virtualization technology helps because everything feels sluggish in Virtual box now :(

vdbucks 02-27-2012 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by anexsia (Post 18785793)
I used to love running Virtualbox. I used to have an Intel Xeon X3210 and running linux in Virtualbox was perfect...everything was fast and almost seamless and then I recently got an Intel i5 2500k and realized how much having the Xeon Virtualization technology helps because everything feels sluggish in Virtual box now :(

Yeah, you definitely need a good system to run a desktop based virtual machine.

I'm currently running on an Asus Z8NA-D6C with 2x Intel Xeon e5620's and naturally vbox runs 100x more smoothly on this machine than on my amd gaming desktop ><

This isn't to say you can't or shouldn't run a vm on a 'standard' desktop pc.. because it's still a great way to get used to working strictly in a linux environment; as opposed to trying to learn the ropes from a live cd or live usb.


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