ARS sales have dropped dramaticly!! - GoFuckYourself.com

SimonBalk · 02-06-2003, 02:02 PM

Conversion: 1:10268

I think that says enough right?

KingK7 · 02-06-2003, 02:05 PM

I am in 1:800 pretty consistently with them.
For the last year or so anyways, it used to be 1:450-500

NoCarrier · 02-06-2003, 02:06 PM

Well, it depends, if you are trying to sell teen memberships with pictures of grandma having explosive Diarrheas, yes it's normal.

Martin · 02-06-2003, 02:06 PM

That's good for ARS bro.. Just keep at it..

Raph · 02-06-2003, 02:08 PM

those things kina fluctuate like crazy sometimes ..

of course when it gets to those proportions, you can always try another sponsor and see if the problem is on your side or on theirs

Marcus · 02-06-2003, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
Well, it depends, if you are trying to sell teen memberships with pictures of grandma having explosive Diarrheas, yes it's normal.

I did that once. I sell both gay and straight porn and 1 time I had a gay gallery with text in there that said "Watch Grandmothers having XXX Sex"

I couldn't stop laughing when someone pointed it out to me, it was too late to change it, thought it was hysterical.

SimonBalk · 02-06-2003, 02:09 PM

hmmmm. I used to have a conversion between 1:400 and 1:800

I hope next week will be better.

KRL · 02-06-2003, 02:11 PM

So what the fuck?

Why are you still promoting them??

I don't get why so many webmasters complain on here and then they still have the same sponsors and advertisers months later and post signups are still bad and stuff.

TrafficCashGold and FM's CE Cash progs convert fantastically. Try them instead.

Ian · 02-06-2003, 02:11 PM

Want conversions than 1/800 ? Drop over.

Que? · 02-06-2003, 02:11 PM

Mayby serfs are afraid to pull their cc after all arrests in the UK fex

Greg N · 02-06-2003, 02:13 PM

SimonBalk,

I would be glad to go over your ARS account with you and see what we can do to give you a boost to your ratios. If you would like you can reach me at [email protected] and we can talk things over, please include your account number and a brief description on how you send your traffic.

Thank You

SimonBalk · 02-07-2003, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greg N
SimonBalk,

I would be glad to go over your ARS account with you and see what we can do to give you a boost to your ratios. If you would like you can reach me at [email protected] and we can talk things over, please include your account number and a brief description on how you send your traffic.

Thank You

Thanx for the offer, but it has been offered to me many times. I've talked to mr Borgman a couple of times and the only conclusion he has it that everything is ok and that it's just bad luck.

I've tried other sponsors also, I got the same effect. Some periods goes well, other goes bad. I've looked at my content, but there are no big changes with it in the different periods.

BVF · 02-07-2003, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SimonBalk

I've tried other sponsors also, I got the same effect. Some periods goes well, other goes bad. I've looked at my content, but there are no big changes with it in the different periods.

then you just answered your own question didn't you?

Theo · 02-07-2003, 06:54 AM

I recommend ARS to my enemies

Undutchable · 02-07-2003, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Que?
Mayby serfs are afraid to pull their cc after all arrests in the UK fex

Yeah, and maybe, just maybe, a bunch of wild hogs raided a pornsite member and now everyone is scared to use their cc's.

Speculation, speculation...

Wilbo · 02-07-2003, 07:12 AM

ARS stats look bad because they count ALL hits. Most other programs only count 37th page uniques, so of course their ratios are going to be better.

dailydirt · 02-07-2003, 07:14 AM

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anyone know that sound?

G Sharp · 02-07-2003, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SimonBalk
Conversion: 1:10268

I think that says enough right?

My own stats started to tank when they released their "pro" version.

If anyone reading this has a good converting hardcore/generic porn site that converts at better than 1:200 let me know, I'd like to send TONS of email-based traffic to it

G Sharp · 02-07-2003, 08:12 AM

Well, I can only speak from experience. The reason ARS retains webmaster well is

1) while some weeks would suck there would be good weeks as well --- right when you're about to swap links, things turn out

2) reward points are addictive

I guess, to some extent, retaining webmasters is like retaining surfers....ARS is good at retaining webmasters although a lot complain.

Finally, another reason people would rather complain from time to time rather than move is that other BIG programs are not any better. Indeed, some are worse than ARS in terms of service and conversion.

There are a few small programs out there that convert really well, unfotunately the webmasters currently promoting them dont want them to be overexposed so they remain a secret.

Which brings us back to square 1 ... venting.

Just my

Raph · 02-07-2003, 08:12 AM

There's been like 3 or 4 threads about ARS conversions in the last 24 hours

It has always been the case, and probably with other sponsors too. Some are doing 1:10k while some are doing 1:250 ...

If you sent those 10k hits in one week .. compare with previous weeks .. if it's really different from past conversions, there might be a problem somewhere .. if it's on their side, they probably won't tell you (any sponsor), if it's on yours and you haven't changed anything, well we're back to "if it's on their side"

There's not much to do about it then .. try other sponsors

FlyingIguana · 02-07-2003, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wilbo
ARS stats look bad because they count ALL hits. Most other programs only count 37th page uniques, so of course their ratios are going to be better.

you can adjust the numbers of other sponsors. i always look at impressions anyways

SNOW · 02-07-2003, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by G Sharp
Well, I can only speak from experience. The reason ARS retains webmaster well is

1) while some weeks would suck there would be good weeks as well --- right when you're about to swap links, things turn out

2) reward points are addictive

I guess, to some extent, retaining webmasters is like retaining surfers....ARS is good at retaining webmasters although a lot complain.

Finally, another reason people would rather complain from time to time rather than move is that other BIG programs are not any better. Indeed, some are worse than ARS in terms of service and conversion.

There are a few small programs out there that convert really well, unfotunately the webmasters currently promoting them dont want them to be overexposed so they remain a secret.

Which brings us back to square 1 ... venting.

Just my

You are right on the Money Boss

Raph · 02-07-2003, 10:03 AM

Lots of other sponsors are now offering reward points. But every sponsor fluctuates over a relatively small period of time.

ElvisManson · 02-07-2003, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wilbo
ARS stats look bad because they count ALL hits. Most other programs only count 37th page uniques, so of course their ratios are going to be better.

IMO WM's should keep track of their own raw clicks and not rely on the Affiliate Programs hit counters.

This way you are able to count the number of hits you send and look at the revenue generated from those hits.

We have always based the traffic we send to other people using this "Value per Click" model and it allows us to properly track the REAL value of our traffic.

PeekHoles · 02-07-2003, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by G Sharp

My own stats started to tank when they released their "pro" version.

If anyone reading this has a good converting hardcore/generic porn site that converts at better than 1:200 let me know, I'd like to send TONS of email-based traffic to it

I can help you out contact me.

Chad
ICQ 102756498

Pornkings · 02-07-2003, 01:07 PM

we count first page raw and second page uniq
but all that matters is how much you make at the end of the day

02-06-2003, 02:02 PM	#1
SimonBalk Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 197	ARS sales have dropped dramaticly!! Conversion: 1:10268 I think that says enough right? __________________

02-06-2003, 02:06 PM	#3
NoCarrier We need more free porn Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 16,356	Well, it depends, if you are trying to sell teen memberships with pictures of grandma having explosive Diarrheas, yes it's normal. __________________

02-06-2003, 02:08 PM	#5
Raph Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 439	those things kina fluctuate like crazy sometimes .. of course when it gets to those proportions, you can always try another sponsor and see if the problem is on your side or on theirs __________________ Raph

02-06-2003, 02:09 PM	#7
SimonBalk Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 197	hmmmm. I used to have a conversion between 1:400 and 1:800 I hope next week will be better. __________________

02-06-2003, 02:11 PM	#8
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	So what the fuck? Why are you still promoting them?? I don't get why so many webmasters complain on here and then they still have the same sponsors and advertisers months later and post signups are still bad and stuff. TrafficCashGold and FM's CE Cash progs convert fantastically. Try them instead. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

02-06-2003, 02:05 PM	#2
KingK7 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6,372	I am in 1:800 pretty consistently with them. For the last year or so anyways, it used to be 1:450-500

02-06-2003, 02:06 PM	#4
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	That's good for ARS bro.. Just keep at it..

02-06-2003, 02:11 PM	#9
Ian Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,259	Want conversions than 1/800 ? Drop over.

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Greg N Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cyn City Posts: 564	SimonBalk, I would be glad to go over your ARS account with you and see what we can do to give you a boost to your ratios. If you would like you can reach me at [email protected] and we can talk things over, please include your account number and a brief description on how you send your traffic. Thank You

02-07-2003, 06:54 AM	#14
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	I recommend ARS to my enemies

02-07-2003, 07:12 AM	#16
Wilbo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Baltimore Posts: 2,082	ARS stats look bad because they count ALL hits. Most other programs only count 37th page uniques, so of course their ratios are going to be better.

02-07-2003, 07:14 AM	#17
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02-07-2003, 08:12 AM	#19
G Sharp So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,343	Well, I can only speak from experience. The reason ARS retains webmaster well is 1) while some weeks would suck there would be good weeks as well --- right when you're about to swap links, things turn out 2) reward points are addictive I guess, to some extent, retaining webmasters is like retaining surfers....ARS is good at retaining webmasters although a lot complain. Finally, another reason people would rather complain from time to time rather than move is that other BIG programs are not any better. Indeed, some are worse than ARS in terms of service and conversion. There are a few small programs out there that convert really well, unfotunately the webmasters currently promoting them dont want them to be overexposed so they remain a secret. Which brings us back to square 1 ... venting. Just my

02-07-2003, 10:03 AM	#23
Raph Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 439	Lots of other sponsors are now offering reward points. But every sponsor fluctuates over a relatively small period of time. __________________ Raph

02-07-2003, 01:07 PM	#26
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	we count first page raw and second page uniq but all that matters is how much you make at the end of the day __________________ Pornkings.com