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Old 02-14-2012, 03:58 PM   #1
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Kalashnikov 5: Brand-new AK-12 rifle unveiled

Kalashnikov have unveiled the latest incarnation of their iconic assault rifle, the AK-47. The company says new generation firearm called the AK-12 combines reliability with precision, and can be used with one hand.

http://rt.com/news/ak-12-kalashnikov-rifle-253/
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Old 02-14-2012, 04:38 PM   #2
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Far cry from the AK47...
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Old 02-14-2012, 04:41 PM   #3
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Shoulda called that bitch the AK 94 Motherfucker!!!!

Ak-12 sounds like a little bastard child of the 47.

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Old 02-14-2012, 04:48 PM   #4
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Kalashnikov had nothing to do with the development of this rifle.
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Old 02-14-2012, 04:55 PM   #5
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Far cry from the AK47...
Really dosnt look that far off..
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‎"I would prefer to have invented a machine that people could use and that would help farmers with their work — for example a lawn mower."
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So what this version does that the previous does not ? Sorry - I did not read the article...
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So what this version does that the previous does not ? Sorry - I did not read the article...
sure, let me read the article for you.

-single hand use
-better range
-better precision
-better ergonomics, usability
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So what this version does that the previous does not ? Sorry - I did not read the article...
it can be switched over to a lefthanded rifle <---huge selling point

The rifle can accommodate night vision and Holo-sights, target indicator, or a light grenade launcher.






this thing is badass
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:24 PM   #10
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:28 PM   #11
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:29 PM   #12
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:38 PM   #13
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I'm waiting for the ak-48 lol

I bought a shit Olympic BBM chambered to .22 at christmas for a personal reason, thing is the bloody thing is crap (and fucking orange). Jams on every 3rd or 4th round and the barrel must have been reamed with a toilet brush as it has a range of about 3 feet. Probably as good as a saiga ak-47
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I'm waiting for the ak-48 lol

I bought a shit Olympic BBM chambered to .22 at christmas for a personal reason, thing is the bloody thing is crap (and fucking orange). Jams on every 3rd or 4th round and the barrel must have been reamed with a toilet brush as it has a range of about 3 feet. Probably as good as a saiga ak-47
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Really dosnt look that far off..
From what I've read the specs seem closer to an ak74 than an ak47
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:46 PM   #17
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ummmmmmmmmmmm maybe they are preparing for a war
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Looks like the ol' AK finally entered the new century. Congrats!
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What? You want to kill more grass ??
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it can be switched over to a lefthanded rifle <---huge selling point

The rifle can accommodate night vision and Holo-sights, target indicator, or a light grenade launcher.

this thing is badass

So...basically everything that the AR/M16 platform has had since it's inception.

Way to play catch up!

And yet, it's still a folded metal piece of shit.
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yeah because if farmers didn't mow their lawns none of us would get our steady diet of grass...
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What makes you say that

You mean other than the article stating the same thing?

"The factory which developed the new rifle decided to stick with the classic layout of the AK-47, even though it is a completely new weapon."
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So...basically everything that the AR/M16 platform has had since it's inception.

Way to play catch up!

And yet, it's still a folded metal piece of shit.
I respect your opinions about guns but the AK47 is far superior to the AR15/M16. I have over half a dozen of each. I buy American whenever I can. All my cars are American. I don't like buying Russian but when it comes to guns the AK47 NEVER EVER fucking jams. Anyone who says they have never had jams with a AR15,M16 is lying thru their teeth. Yeah yeah keep it cleaned and it won't jam. Bullshit. I have talked to many soldiers from the recent wars, they all same the same thing. Jams jams jams. If the shit hits the fan and I pick up a AR15 there is a possibility it will jam on me when it counts. With a AK47 there is no chance of this happening.

It looks like they put the AR15 style rail system on this AK. About time.
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I respect your opinions about guns but the AK47 is far superior to the AR15/M16. I have over half a dozen of each. I buy American whenever I can. All my cars are American. I don't like buying Russian but when it comes to guns the AK47 NEVER EVER fucking jams. Anyone who says they have never had jams with a AR15,M16 is lying thru their teeth. Yeah yeah keep it cleaned and it won't jam. Bullshit. I have talked to many soldiers from the recent wars, they all same the same thing. Jams jams jams. If the shit hits the fan and I pick up a AR15 there is a possibility it will jam on me when it counts. With a AK47 there is no chance of this happening.

It looks like they put the AR15 style rail system on this AK. About time.
True... I'll take an AK over an AR anytime. I don't plan on having to make 300 yard shots in a WROL situation. At 100 yards the AK is just fine.

It's a fun gun to shoot and you don't need to be assed with cleaning it every time. Just spray it with some WD-40 and put it back in storage. The WASR 10/63 are getting harder to get a hold of and the price has gone up about $150 in just the past year.
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I respect your opinions about guns but the AK47 is far superior to the AR15/M16. I have over half a dozen of each. I buy American whenever I can. All my cars are American. I don't like buying Russian but when it comes to guns the AK47 NEVER EVER fucking jams. Anyone who says they have never had jams with a AR15,M16 is lying thru their teeth. Yeah yeah keep it cleaned and it won't jam. Bullshit. I have talked to many soldiers from the recent wars, they all same the same thing. Jams jams jams. If the shit hits the fan and I pick up a AR15 there is a possibility it will jam on me when it counts. With a AK47 there is no chance of this happening.

It looks like they put the AR15 style rail system on this AK. About time.
The only time I have ever had an AR jam on me is when it was either not properly maintained or put together wrong.

Yes, AK's are more reliable but in order to accomplish this, they are made a lot looser. Meaning they are sloppy and considerably less accurate. AK's are also not held to the same specifications, again because they are typically built sloppy.

In some aspects, an AR can take a hell of a lot more abuse. For example, if you drop an AR from standing height, you are not going to risk breaking it. On the flip side, two weeks ago I was messing around with an the AK Slide Fire stock and one of the AK's fell over while leaning against a wall. It put a small dent in the receiver cover and after that, the gun would not cycle correctly.

You can throw both guns in the mud and then they will both shoot. The difference is the AK will now be full of mud where the AR is built tight enough to not even let the mud in.

Full auto AK's are great in the jungle when you want to throw a lot of lead and don't care about accuracy. In the semi-automatic world, I'll take an AR over an AK any day of the week.

There have been "AR15" style rails available for the AK for the last decade. Nothing new about that.

Lastly, I can't stand the way an AK shoots. It's a matter of personal opinion.
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True... I'll take an AK over an AR anytime. I don't plan on having to make 300 yard shots in a WROL situation. At 100 yards the AK is just fine.

If that were true then you would see a lot more AK's being used in 3Gun than AR's.

The average AK will not pull MOA at 100 yards. The average AR is capable of Sub-MOA at the same distance.
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It's a matter of personal opinion.
Yea. If I'm sniping I'd much rather have an AR or M1A. For the casual zombie apocalypse gimme an AK.
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The whole reason you choose an AK-47 is because of the legendary reliability and the ability to shoot any ammo available.

So logically, there would be no reason to switch to a new AK since that negates the whole reason you are shooting an AK in the first place, which is because it's proven.

So until this gun has been out for years and combat proven, there is no reason to get one over a proven AK-47. Plus, you can buy aftermarket parts for AK-47's that gives it most of the features of this new gun like rails and the ability to add tactical accessories.
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So...basically everything that the AR/M16 platform has had since it's inception.

Way to play catch up!

And yet, it's still a folded metal piece of shit.
i didn't hear about mechanical issues with the ak47.. thought it was the basic selling point
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