You might need to brush up on your history of the past year... it started on xmas 2010. Since then there have been numerous late payments with nothing but excuses.. then there was the pretty big fuck up with the rebills, then switching banks for ACH payouts causing more delayed payouts... then the addition of the 10% reserve so they could fund redpass...

Yeah, and epassporte account holders are finally starting to get paid from the looks of it... does that mean you're going to run back to them if they re-open for business?

Isn't Netbilling a gateway ? Didn't know they where an actual billing company

If it is only required for the index and join page, why was I told to place it on every single page in my tour? Because I did not like that and did not think it was necessary or required and now I find out I was correct according to you. I decided not to use Zombaio so it has become a moot point. I don't like being treated like I don't know what I'm doing so I vote with my feet.

They aren't, but they still have certain requirements... like we had to remove a 4 site banner becuase one of those 4 sites' tour was closed down... And we have to have certain lines on our join form just the same...

I still run some sales through Zombaio, as well as Verotel, and my own merchant account. I am perfectly aware of the timeline of events in that regard. I also own a calendar.

I had a epass card, rarely used it. Hence did not lose much when the crash came. I do not have Paxum, or any of those other cards currently available. I guess no matter who the company is or was, I simply had little use for those things. I can handle most business via PP, ACH, or bank wires if need be.

:2 cents:

Now here is a businessman.

:thumbsup :thumbsup

You answered the question with irrelevant info.. the question was... would you use epassporte again if they re-opened for business now that they've apparently started paying people?

The answer is obviously no, and as such, your point that everyone did eventually get their money from zombaio is moot... because you're trying to play it off as if being paid late and not knowing when that late will actually be because they do their best to be as vague with their answers as possible isn't a problem...

Incorrect. I am saying stop living paycheck to paycheck. You had your money within a mo..

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Ahh yes, the make yourself sound like a baller line...

Fact is, it is our money. Point blank. And getting it late is a problem, regardless of whether we need it right then or not.

if I ran Zombaio I would close your account for bringing our name into disrepute.

Wonder how your rebills would work out then ?

You cannot publicly call a billing company shady because they want you to adhere to their published terms and conditions.

It's probably a good thing you don't run any businesses then because if you closed client accounts for complaining about policies that don't exists, you'd be out of business...

And there's a reason we split our sales up between companies... because you never know when you're going to get hit by the next iBill or epass...

It has nothing to do with being a baller or not.

It has to do with managing your money. You should know this if you have been in this business prior to 2008 when the credit crunch hit. Diversity if key, and having your 'reserve' is also key so you are not scrambling.

Anyone (as you admitted) who's been through 2008 + EPASS should know better.
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We manage our money just fine.. so again your point is irrelevant. It is our money and it doesn't matter if we need it right then or not. It's simply unacceptable. And we are as diversified as we can be... 4 different processors and netbilling... but again, this is beside the point because it is our money. And knowing where our money is is simply good business practice. Demanding our money arrive on time is good business practice.

What kind of WIIIIIIIIINNNNEEEE ? :winkwink:

Good to hear.

Now..... go buy yourself a beer in private, and cry about Zombaio and their policies. Once you have completed that task, you then lube up your crack, bend over, spread your cheeks, and take it like a man. Without the whining mind you. Or you can simply make a personal business decision to no longer use them, and move along with your life. Either one will solve your problem.

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Go process elsewhere then.

Zombaio has been good to me. They have excellent rates, payment options and a great interface. They're far from "shady" because they have a simple requirement before approving your site.

Exactly. :thumbsup

I do not have a problem with the O.P.. I have a problem with people i general who make threads like this over some minor bullshit and smear companies calling them 'scammers', 'shady', whatever.

A "scammer" has malicious intent to rip someone off. I fail to see the malice.

Zombaio are far from shady or a scammer just because of some accident that happens, there is a payment delay, or they have policies you do not like. If you do not like their policies, do not use them. That hardly makes them shady/scammer.

:2 cents:

:winkwink:

A hundie whiners. Zombaio is a big meanie.

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A hundie and one rotten eggy farts in an enclosed space.


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Also, this:

Well that's quite a talent you have there. You have no idea who I am or what business I run.

How is this thread going for you ?

Is it bringing in lots of new affiliates ?

Is it solving your issue with your credit card provider ?

Or is it massively back firing ?

Looks a PR disaster to me. I know an Italian cruise ship captain that could use your skills !!!



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I think that if those are the rules, they should be followed or go somewhere else, simple as that.

This being said, I didn't read the 1 million pages MC rules document entirely, but from a fast overlook I couldn't find this rule, nor do I remember it as a rule from previous years. And it's not the first time you say "look it's in the rules" and it was a lie. I called you out when you lied with the Epassporte fiasco and you did your best to fool clients. And when I said what the REAL Visa procedures were, you denied it. Time told who was the one telling the truth and who was telling lies. So don't come with the "rules" song, you aren't known as the decent guy that follows them.

Anyway, I'd recommend the OP to do what he's asked to or stop using the service, it's not rocket science, companies change conditions every day and he's not even asked to do this for old sites, so no idea WTF is he complaining about

Any money not in your account is not yours. It really have nothing to do with the living paycheck to paycheck.

If you've been in the business for a while you should know how important it is to get paid as fast as possible, especially at these times where so many people are going out of business.

We are basically prepaying all our clients, we have very few clients who selected to be paid on carrier terms where they wait up to 90+ days to get paid, for us it's crucial to always be paid on time AND that the amount matches. We have a dedicated person that sits and chases invoices and payments all week long, if a telco is delayed with a payment for more than a few days without any valid explanation we typically pull out all their numbers, I've done this several times with telco's we worked with for nearly 10 years. Why ? It's a business, if you let your business slip it will eventually hunt you down. If you are dealing with professionals they'll understand

You keep complaining here all the time payment was late and etc etc etc seriously WTF? Change a biller and remove Zombaio in your biller then move on!

If you do not like their rules then find another that fits to your needs that is very simple as 1, 2, 3 or a, b, c!

I would like to see the actual statement that zombaio needs to be put as a link on index page, most important page of a website, seo wise.

Sounds like link juice tactic to me. Just asking the question.

I remember after about 3 years of an excellent processing relationship with them (no chargebacks)

They sent us an email a while back saying we had to add a script to our join page to keep processing with them, they were putting thru a lot of approvals and rebills so we simply complied without "requesting" to see the new stipulation on paper.

Sure would welcome the chance at using them again,but they could very well be bitter with us for the hostility we showed to them for some of the "issues" they were having in the past.

Have not seen any derrogative threads about them for some time, so maybe times have changed for the better:)