Speaking strictly as a consumer, I personally just wait until movies come on HBO or Showtime and watch them then. They don't get my money at the theatre, nor on DVD sales or rentals, not on Netflix or Amazon. I pay approx. $110/a month for DirecTV and I between the various tv shows I enjoy and a few movies a month I feel that I get my money's worth.

Just read the comments in this post too, I am not the only one that thinks the continued screwing of their customers is a bad idea :)

http://venturebeat.com/2012/01/26/wa...netflix-queue/


Not to mention this looks bad for Netflix too





Now, imagine if Warner Bros announced that they will make all new releases available immediately for rental, perhaps at a slightly higher price point. I can see the praise from consumers already.....

So DJ the kid who defended some of the biggest scumbags for months while people got their cards banged to hell is now upset about people doing bad business?

the people who complain and worry about this shit don't pull out the credit card to buy anything online anyways.

i'm sure you are the exception.

I like this quote in the article too:

Not allowing Netflix users to conveniently wait out the delayed availability of new DVDs fits within Warner Brothers new strategy. The company clearly wants consumers to feel the inconvenience and discomfort of not being able to watch these newly released movies immediately because it makes the option of buying the DVD much more attractive.

Honestly, I never go to the movies, I never buy dvds, I only watch what is on netflix streaming and I get the 1 dvd in the mail thing.

I would pay more to get more and earlier releases on netflix streaming... that is definitely the way to go. DVDs are shit

It proves the negative sentiment in real-time, and I'm sure those aren't the only people.

But I'm sure Warner is in parallel thinking with you: "Fuck these customers, what they say is worthless, we will continue to do things the way we want and inconvenience our customers. All while shooting ourselves in the foot at the same time."

At least the recording industry has a somewhat better perspective.

Do i need to remind people how DJ the kid while he knew how the people he worked for were banging cards on a massive scale called everyone who mentioned it an idiot and a liar here?

This thread is starting to read like the comments on an illegal tube.

instead of making up shit why don't you quote what they said was their motivation?

"One of the key initiatives for Warner Bros. is to improve the value of ownership for the consumer and the extension of the rental window...is an important piece of that strategy," Mark Horak, president of Warner Home Video North America, said in early January when announcing the new 56-day delay window.

Another great article in line with my previous points...



http://strom.wordpress.com/2011/01/0...re-being-dumb/

my point is it's their product they can sell it however they want. if it's a failed strategy the market will correct them. other businesses will learn and adapt.

Agreed, they will fail in a free market and true capitalism. But not when they are lobbying hard to get the government involved.

like any of these fucks that torrent shit all day anyway give a shit about brand loyalty who do they think they are kidding.

where is the government intervention in this case?

you are moving the goal posts.

A brilliantly written PR quote from their PR. Yeah that's what I'll take as fact ha.

Regardless, that's a bullshit idea. But as I stated before who the fuck wants to OWN a movie that you watch 1 maybe 2 times then collects dust, or you sell it to a video exchange store. Or you could give it away to a friend (BUT WAIT, That's piracy and illegal!)

It's the same things with record labels. Who wants to own a $15 CD with 11 shitty songs and 1 good song? When you can buy songs individually on iTunes or other online music stores.

Where? The industry lobbying to get SOPA and other legislation through. And the threats from hollywood to cut their contributions to government officials who dont agree with them.

is the government getting involved in this case? you argument is invalid.

ask the consumers who make dvd sales 6X the number of digital sales.

People have been doing this for 20+ years, while rental stores were still readily available. Do people suddenly not want to own movies, in any form?

This is changing as we speak.

I do own movies and shows in digital form from service providers. But just because people have been doing this for 20+ years doesnt mean consumer behavior isn't changing.

Making your customers wait to rent rather than own and limiting their options for purchase just doesn't look good and is not a way to create a long term positive relationship with consumers, we can already see that happening.

consumer loyalty wasn't harmed over the last 20-30 years of this. but magically now it will for some reason.

it has been so fatally damaged the poor consumer will have no choice to torrent movies. sad.

Megaupload had vast libraries of all the latest movies, tv shows, software, games, music, porn, etc and could only muster up $30 million a year. That is not free market or capitalism. That would barely finance one single movie. The only way to make profit in that market is to steal. And long-term in that market only crap would be produced.

People who don't like what Hollywood offers, should vote with their wallet. It doesn't give someone else the right to undercut their investments and profit off it themselves at a grossly unsustainable price-point. Of course the government gets involved when that happens.

think they made more than that.

The news sites all quoted $150 million over 5 years, but I guess no one knows for sure. Even that amount, though is low considering the investments that go into these projects.

What the hell? It's belongs to them. It's their movie.

They aren't fucking a "customer". Until a person actually buys a ticket and/or the dvd and/or rents it...they are a potential customer at best.

I'm not sure that this is going to work out the way they want it to. But it's not "screwing" or "fucking" any so-called "customers". You've read too many gideongallery posts and it's started to rub off on you a bit. lol :)

I found it interesting that with all of the replies, noone mentioned this part:

Hmm, so Blockbuster could just go buy a few copies at Walmart and have them for rent immediately. It would cost them a few dollars more, so they would probably charge more for renting these new releases.

After netflix split the costs between online and dvds, my account went to online. I never really liked the dvd option because the discs were fucked up half the time. The streaming services suck because they don't show any of the newer movies that are popular.Most of the shit you find is unheard of, tv shows I have seen, or from the 90s. The new movies that were straight to dvd type of stuff. That being said, it doesn't really affect me if they choose to prolong rentals :1orglaugh:Oh crap.

Here are some examples.

The reason you dont see the latest movies is because the studios' decision to do the 56-day retail only periods. It's not the streaming service that's at fault here.

The whole thing just makes the movie studios pathetic and petty.


Basically trying to funnel people into brick and mortar retail stores to purchase discs which is a thing of the past. And will go the way of bookstores and CD stores. Welcome to the future. I can't wait until discs of any kind are completely obsolete.

Why dont they have a premium option where you have to pay a higher rental price to rent the new releases? Instead of inconveniencing customers, and cock-blocking potential customers who like to use new technology methods to get their media.

If someone has purchased or rented from a certain movie studio, I'd consider that person our customer, which is a lot of people. Not roping off groups of people because they aren't a customer, treat everyone as a customer, gain more actual customers.

It's not really that simple, and it sort of is the "fault" of the streaming services. There are now at least half a dozen companies that want the Internet streaming rights to those movies and they are all in the middle of bidding wars, plus of course they all want exclusive rights.

Wal-Mart, Hulu, Netflix, Time Warner, Comcast... they all want the exclusive rights and it's going to be a battle. The studios are going to hold out and wait for the highest bid. Why wouldn't they?

Good job I didn't put the word "pay" in there too...that'd be 3 strikes in one post lol

Thats because there's a market for streaming services, it's what consumers want, people hardly use DVD players, and less and less every day. For the industry to hold on to that idea is just ridiculous. Trying to still cater to people who go by a DVD at Target thats not where things are still headed.

It's like if a band released an album, but you have to wait 56-days before you can buy it online, because we want to funnel people to buy the hardcopy CD at a brick and mortar retail store. How does that make ANY sense?

can't compare music and movies. too many different variables.

You can compare the two in gross. However, the margins on online digital sales are higher.

:thumbsup

"Improve the value of ownership?" What does that even mean? The only value I can think of is that you'd be able to brag to your friends that you have a newly released DVD which can't be rented yet... then your friend points out he got it via torrent 3 days ago.

How is it different, it's limiting the release of a product to a large growing market. It's the same general idea.