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seeandsee 01-25-2012 04:23 PM

i wus here just a moment before the lock

madtwin 01-25-2012 04:26 PM

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4...itsherlock.jpg

Deputy Chief Command 01-25-2012 04:38 PM

no shit captain

wdsguy 01-25-2012 04:41 PM

Check out domaintools , they have past whois info/changes for a domain.

kmill 01-25-2012 04:51 PM

If anything, the information being posted on this thread connects FileSonic to Mansef. It has nothing to do with Manwin.

All dates stated above pre-dates the sale of Mansef assets to Manwin. This is no proof of Manwin involvement.

Our official statement states the facts.

An individual with the name Bosco ICQ 322145026 or with the email [email protected] has never worked for Manwin.

I do not speak for GFY, but I believe they blocked the thread because it contained false allegations without proof ? which goes against the posting policies.

wolbem 01-25-2012 05:02 PM

Good search term for info on this... Techboom which is the developing company behind Filesonic.

CEO of Techboom Wissam Alame(check Quora.com for the 2 people he is connected to and Linkedin as well)

Ayla_SquareTurtle 01-25-2012 05:13 PM

Oh those rascally Mansef guys, what can you do, amiright??

Brujah 01-25-2012 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmill (Post 18712193)
If anything, the information being posted on this thread connects FileSonic to Mansef. It has nothing to do with Manwin.

All dates stated above pre-dates the sale of Mansef assets to Manwin. This is no proof of Manwin involvement.

Were some Mansef assets not sold/transferred to Manwin?

Brujah 01-25-2012 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolbem (Post 18712215)
Good search term for info on this... Techboom which is the developing company behind Filesonic.

CEO of Techboom Wissam Alame(check Quora.com for the 2 people he is connected to and Linkedin as well)

http://www.quora.com/Wissam-Alame/followers

Matt Keez and Ouis sam Yous sef? I don't get the connection. Who are they? :winkwink:

JosephFM 01-25-2012 05:43 PM

Here's a good read on how the whole thing went down from the start.

http://instapaperstories.tumblr.com/...-kings-of-smut

fris 01-25-2012 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18712104)
The one and only. Who do you think put and probably still puts 1000s of videos on those tubes?




Yea, but they added WIN to their name. It's all good now.

only cause no bank wanted to deal with mansef, they were blacklisted

signupdamnit 01-25-2012 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmill (Post 18712193)
If anything, the information being posted on this thread connects FileSonic to Mansef. It has nothing to do with Manwin.

All dates stated above pre-dates the sale of Mansef assets to Manwin. This is no proof of Manwin involvement.

Our official statement states the facts.

An individual with the name Bosco ICQ 322145026 or with the email [email protected] has never worked for Manwin.

I do not speak for GFY, but I believe they blocked the thread because it contained false allegations without proof ? which goes against the posting policies.

There was another thread which was not just locked but which was quickly deleted. Some other people here commented on it as well. In that thread another user shared the whois screen shot I linked to in my initial post. This is a different one entirely from the one which was earlier locked.

It would seem to me that there is a connection between Brazzers and Filesonic based on the available evidence. Namely that both were once owned by the same individuals at one time. The screen shot provided seems to provide evidence for this. There may in fact be some other connections but this remains to be seen. I believe personally it is a matter which should be investigated by the government and the media. I'm trying to do my part to help out in that effort as we speak.

I have no idea why the thread which preceded this one was deleted (not locked). It did give me the impression that perhaps someone was trying to hide the screenshot in question.

JFK 01-25-2012 05:59 PM

Fitty three screen shots:thumbsup fuck talk about missing by a mile :(

candyflip 01-25-2012 06:01 PM

http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/v...the-lock-3.jpg

V_RocKs 01-25-2012 06:14 PM

Makes me dizzy

HomerSimpson 01-25-2012 06:16 PM

you can pay at domaintools.com and get all whois history they have...

bns666 01-25-2012 06:21 PM

domaintools.com ftw :)

signupdamnit 01-25-2012 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolbem (Post 18712215)
Good search term for info on this... Techboom which is the developing company behind Filesonic.

CEO of Techboom Wissam Alame(check Quora.com for the 2 people he is connected to and Linkedin as well)

There are some connections between Filesonic and Techboom for sure. Not only what you show but also other things like the Google+ profile of Filesonic friending Techboom employees. At least in the cache before they were all removed. :upsidedow

Hey look Montreal, Canada. You don't say.

ReggieDurango 01-25-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmill (Post 18712193)
If anything, the information being posted on this thread connects FileSonic to Mansef. It has nothing to do with Manwin.

All dates stated above pre-dates the sale of Mansef assets to Manwin. This is no proof of Manwin involvement.

Our official statement states the facts.

An individual with the name Bosco ICQ 322145026 or with the email [email protected] has never worked for Manwin.

I do not speak for GFY, but I believe they blocked the thread because it contained false allegations without proof ? which goes against the posting policies.

1st post??!!??

bns666 01-25-2012 06:50 PM

what a bunch of bullshit like manwin never had to do anything with mansef.

BlackCrayon 01-25-2012 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdsguy (Post 18712173)
Check out domaintools , they have past whois info/changes for a domain.

all the history for filesonic.com has now been removed. how convenient.

slavdogg 01-25-2012 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 18711822)
You can look up old Whois through DomainTools.com

http://whois.domaintools.com/filesonic.com

wolbem 01-25-2012 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 18712263)
quora.com/Wissam-Alame/followers

Matt Keez and Ouis sam Yous sef? I don't get the connection. Who are they?

Looks like Matt Keez's profile pic on quora has changed from earlier today.
img235.imagevenue.com/loc418/th_555602777_mk_122_418lo.jpg

DWB 01-25-2012 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmill (Post 18712193)
If anything, the information being posted on this thread connects FileSonic to Mansef. It has nothing to do with Manwin.

All dates stated above pre-dates the sale of Mansef assets to Manwin. This is no proof of Manwin involvement.

Our official statement states the facts.

Quote:

Manwin, which owns Brazzers, has no relations - business or otherwise - to FileSonic, nor to any other file sharing sites. Any statement otherwise is a fabrication, and will be met with a swift response.
All of that stuff sounds vaguely familiar. Where have I heard this before?

Oh yes....

Quote:

For us, it would make no sense to own a site like that, the margins just dont justify the expense, and it would be 100% against the interests of our core business. - Brazzers
Quote:

JuggCash Kurt: Everything that goes on pornhub from other sites are embeded with watermarks and verified by our content managment dept, its not stealing

DarkJedi 01-26-2012 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bns666 (Post 18712423)
what a bunch of bullshit like manwin never had to do anything with mansef.

found this on one of the links in this thread

http://images.nymag.com/news/feature...0207_2_560.jpg

19teenporn 01-26-2012 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 18712263)
http://www.quora.com/Wissam-Alame/followers

Matt Keez and Ouis sam Yous sef? I don't get the connection. Who are they? :winkwink:

What the fuck is keez?

seeme 01-26-2012 01:07 AM

Very interesting thread thats for sure :1orglaugh

wdsguy 01-26-2012 01:32 AM

How long before this thread gets deleted.

borked 01-26-2012 01:50 AM

Jeez, you don't visit GFY for a few days and the drama llama has an epileptic fit.

DamageX 01-26-2012 02:00 AM

Whoa, the inquisitive minds of GFY detectives at work...

Tell you what, NOTHING is going to happen. Even if you dig up all the fucking dirt on Manwin, NOTHING is going to happen. This industry wasn't able to band together and legally take them out when they were small fry.

Do you think that, even if the industry did band together in the 11th hour, you'd be able to do anything now that they're the biggest fish in the pond? They probably have as much legal firepower as the tobacco companies, if not more. They'll own your asses in court and you'll go broke before they even break a sweat.

Gotta love GFY...

DarkJedi 01-26-2012 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 18712899)
Whoa, the inquisitive minds of GFY detectives at work...

Tell you what, NOTHING is going to happen. Even if you dig up all the fucking dirt on Manwin, NOTHING is going to happen. This industry wasn't able to band together and legally take them out when they were small fry.

Do you think that, even if the industry did band together in the 11th hour, you'd be able to do anything now that they're the biggest fish in the pond? They probably have as much legal firepower as the tobacco companies, if not more. They'll own your asses in court and you'll go broke before they even break a sweat.

Gotta love GFY...

You're right. But maybe if we just send all dug up info to the Feds, they can take it up from there.

Zarathustra 01-26-2012 05:13 AM

Best to forward any "fear mongering" to the Feds

mafia_man 01-26-2012 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 18711806)
And how do you know it's real?Could be photoshoped.

Register with domain tools and order a report. The cache most WHOIS data.

signupdamnit 01-26-2012 08:48 AM

Sent out a batch to media contacts this morning.

signupdamnit 01-26-2012 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi (Post 18713033)
You're right. But maybe if we just send all dug up info to the Feds, they can take it up from there.

Don't forget organizations like the MPAA as well. I was thinking that they might be very interested in the discussions between "Bosco" of the old Brazzers and aXXo.

If Manwin truly has no connections to these people then they have nothing to worry about. Regardless I think the matter deserves a little more attention at the very least.

PAR 01-26-2012 10:16 AM

*edited due to a small error*

Ok really all kinda grasping at straws here...

Old Whois info from before Manwin bought Mansef.
So let me guess you think that when someone sells an adult company they sell ever url/site they own even the non adult and non related ones.
Anyone that has been around long enough has there main projects and side projects outside thier adult projects that would not be sold along with the adult.
Making the connection to the new company Manwin is reaching when you dont know exactly what was sold.
Not to mention some post on some board from 2006. Again long before Manwin..
Anyone that worked with Brazzers when they first came up knows exactly who Bosco is and knows he left long before the sale of Mansef to do his own thing.

Tracking down projects that the old owners had going on and kept or new projects seems silly to hold the new owners in any way account able.
You don't need to like the old owners nor what they did or are doing now but this is like going after someone that owns a used car for a hit and run the last owner did.

Are we now going to also say that every project owned by anyone that worked for or was an owner of a company that sold to Manwin sold Manwin every URL/site they had?
And that everything they move on to is also connected to Manwin. And that if I or anyone else that works for a company starts something on the side or post messages that its 100% the comapnies doing. Come on were is the logic in that..

CaptainHowdy 01-26-2012 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 18712343)
"in before the lock" elephant

:( ........

Fabien 01-26-2012 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 18711810)
what is that supposed to be?
fake address in ontario...fake postal code...with some montreal phone number

this could be anyone

Bingo

514 is the regional code for Montréal
h1h1h1 is usually given has an example zipcode only !

signupdamnit 01-26-2012 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR (Post 18713577)
Ok really all kinda grasping at straws here...

Old Whois info from before Manwin bought Mansef.
So let me guess you think that when someone sells an adult company they sell ever url/site they own even the non adult and non related ones.
Anyone that has been around long enough has there main projects and side projects outside thier adult projects that would not be sold along with the adult.
Making the connection to the new company Manwin is reaching when you dont know exactly what was sold.
Not to mention some post on some board from 2006. Again long before Manwin..
Anyone that worked with Brazzers when they first came up knows exactly who Bosco is and knows he left long before the sale of Mansef to do his own thing.
He never worked for Manwin. was gone over a year before the sale and that he worked for themm and was not an owner.

Tracking down projects that the old owners had going on and kept or new projects seems silly to hold the new owners in any way account able.
You don't need to like the old owners nor what they did or are doing now but this is like going after someone that owns a used car for a hit and run the last owner did.

Are we now going to also say that every project owned by anyone that worked for or was an owner of a company that sold to Manwin sold Manwin every URL/site they had?
And that everything they move on to is also connected to Manwin. And that if I or anyone else that works for a company starts something on the side or post messages that its 100% the comapnies doing. Come on were is the logic in that..

So why was the first topic started by someone else with the old whois data immediately deleted (not just locked) then? Why is that information a threat and to whom?

Why 01-26-2012 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAR (Post 18713577)
*edited due to a small error*

Ok really all kinda grasping at straws here...

Old Whois info from before Manwin bought Mansef.
So let me guess you think that when someone sells an adult company they sell ever url/site they own even the non adult and non related ones.
Anyone that has been around long enough has there main projects and side projects outside thier adult projects that would not be sold along with the adult.
Making the connection to the new company Manwin is reaching when you dont know exactly what was sold.
Not to mention some post on some board from 2006. Again long before Manwin..
Anyone that worked with Brazzers when they first came up knows exactly who Bosco is and knows he left long before the sale of Mansef to do his own thing.

Tracking down projects that the old owners had going on and kept or new projects seems silly to hold the new owners in any way account able.
You don't need to like the old owners nor what they did or are doing now but this is like going after someone that owns a used car for a hit and run the last owner did.

Are we now going to also say that every project owned by anyone that worked for or was an owner of a company that sold to Manwin sold Manwin every URL/site they had?
And that everything they move on to is also connected to Manwin. And that if I or anyone else that works for a company starts something on the side or post messages that its 100% the comapnies doing. Come on were is the logic in that..

strong points raised in this post. IMHO. Business is rough like that, no one is required to disclose anything to outside parties, leaving them to speculate.


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