AVN Rapes Transsexuals of Dignity and Appreciation - Page 5 - GoFuckYourself.com

nikki99 · 01-25-2012, 11:47 AM

5 pages wow

Bladewire · 01-25-2012, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by candyflip

Wants to do porn? I'm pretty sure he's been doing so for almost a year now.

True

MichaelP · 01-25-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

it may be a niche inside of the straight market, but it is a big one.
no need to dis-resepect anyone in this business.
there are enough people on the outside looking down at all of us

BRAVO!

KellyPierce · 01-25-2012, 12:44 PM

I like that DWB

KellyPierce · 01-25-2012, 12:47 PM

And this isn't the 50's

Any why because you are straight deserve more right than a gay person or trans person?

Oh because of your make believe bible?

Since you believe in the bible you must also believe in unicorns, giants, saders (half goat/half human, sea monsters, and more.......

And you must also know there is no proof Gammorah or Sodom ever exsisted as cities..

People use the bible to hate and to pass off their own judgments...

The bible was created by Kingsman and tribes to control people, and control people it has..

It's caused many deaths and many ignorant ways of thinking..

KellyPierce · 01-25-2012, 12:49 PM

If this is the type of people that represent the back end of the industry, no wonder we are going under...

Qbert · 01-25-2012, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KellyPierce

If this is the type of people that represent the back end of the industry, no wonder we are going under...

No, this is GFY. It's not representative of anything. It just is what it is, which defies definition.

helterskelter808 · 01-25-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

No, and that is my point. It doesn't fit into either. It's a grey area that is not yet classified and it can't simply be labeled as "gay."

Likewise it cannot be labeled "straight" (in reality, outside of pornland bullshit). The reason (to repeat myself again) that it is marketed as "straight" is precisely because men who like trannies are unwilling to admit that they are in any way gay, because they think gay = wrong. That is my point.

BlackCrayon · 01-25-2012, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KellyPierce

And this isn't the 50's

Any why because you are straight deserve more right than a gay person or trans person?

Oh because of your make believe bible?

Since you believe in the bible you must also believe in unicorns, giants, saders (half goat/half human, sea monsters, and more.......

And you must also know there is no proof Gammorah or Sodom ever exsisted as cities..

People use the bible to hate and to pass off their own judgments...

The bible was created by Kingsman and tribes to control people, and control people it has..

It's caused many deaths and many ignorant ways of thinking..

lol what does the bible have to do with anything? i sure as hell don't belive in it. shemakes/trannies/ladyboys whatever have as much rights to exist as anyone else. my only point is that they are delusional thinking they are women and the guys who get off on it are not gay, they are. i'm sure your a nice person and all. i wish nothing but good things for you. you just need to stop living in your fantasy world. you are a man, you will always be a man and any man who fucks you or sucks you is gay or at least bisexual. that is all.

The Ghost · 01-25-2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KellyPierce

If this is the type of people that represent the back end of the industry, no wonder we are going under...

Don't make the mistake of thinking all posters on GFY are in the industry. Or in the industry to any measurable extent. It's always been like that. Not to mention the trolls who's job is to raise the blood pressure of the forum and keep people posting. They do a fine job of that too.

There's so many facets to the industry that most can't relate to or understand another.

CaptainHowdy · 01-25-2012, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KellyPierce

And this isn't the 50's

Any why because you are straight deserve more right than a gay person or trans person?

Oh because of your make believe bible?

Since you believe in the bible you must also believe in unicorns, giants, saders (half goat/half human, sea monsters, and more.......

And you must also know there is no proof Gammorah or Sodom ever exsisted as cities..

People use the bible to hate and to pass off their own judgments...

The bible was created by Kingsman and tribes to control people, and control people it has..

It's caused many deaths and many ignorant ways of thinking..

I didn't know that crossdressers and transexuals lacked the sense of metaphor

...

It is inevitable to say, like one of my masters wrote, that we're all transexuals now ...

KellyPierce · 01-25-2012, 01:20 PM

Muahz here's some pics

for the ones asking haha

Now get grossed out

CyberHustler · 01-25-2012, 01:21 PM

If you was born a male and are attracted to males, you're a homosexual. The whole "but I feel like a girl" thing is probably the reason you are a homo, not an excuse to say you aren't one. And your husband, he's also a homo. You guys are a gay couple, just one of you guys dresses and acts like a girl. You should all be treated equal and fairly like everybody else and shit, but stop trying to mind-fuck the world into thinking being gay is some mystic complicated different level of existence that straight people can't comprehend. That's how you dudes start thinking it's cool to pick up straight men that think you're an actual woman... that type of manipulation is evil and can get you killed. A tranny is a tranny... even if you refer to him as a she. That's why nikki99 is cool in my book.

KellyPierce · 01-25-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler

If you was born a male and are attracted to males, you're a homosexual. The whole "but I feel like a girl" thing is probably the reason you are a homo, not an excuse to say you aren't one. And your husband, he's also a homo. You guys are a gay couple, just one of you guys dresses and acts like a girl. You should all be treated equal and fairly like everybody else and shit, but stop trying to mind-fuck the world into thinking being gay is some mystic complicated different level of existence that straight people can't comprehend. That's how you dudes start thinking it's cool to pick up straight men that think you're an actual woman... that type of manipulation is evil and can get you killed. A tranny is a tranny... even if you refer to him as a she. That's why nikki99 is cool in my book.

So you assume all girls go out of their way to 'trick' straight guys?

Aww were you tricked before..you sound wounded :P

12clicks · 01-25-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brittany St Jordan

In regards to: The demeaning attitude and lack of concern for the transsexual genre of the adult industry from AVN

The opinions and ideas expressed hereafter are those of transsexual adult performer Brittany St Jordan and do not necessarily reflect those of any business entity which she may or may not be associated with.

shouldn't it be "which it may or may not be associated with."?

DWB · 01-25-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Likewise it cannot be labeled "straight" (in reality, outside of pornland bullshit). The reason (to repeat myself again) that it is marketed as "straight" is precisely because men who like trannies are unwilling to admit that they are in any way gay, because they think gay = wrong. That is my point.

It's not even marketed as straight. It's just the only place it will sell. You can't sell it to gay men.

IMHO if you are turned on my men. Guys who look like dudes. You are gay. If you are turned on by women, you are straight. If you are turned on by women with a penis, I can't call that straight, bi or gay, it is something else. Just not sure what it would be called. Maybe we can just call it "tri" and be done with it. Or maybe "sort of gay." Just as a transgendered person is a 3rd sex, the guys who want to be with them are also a 3rd class of male.

I know plenty of guys who would never, ever look at another male and think he is hot or would want to have sex with him. Just the same, they don't like manly looking transsexuals. But a very passable transsexual, one that really looks, acts, and even smells like a woman, they are in, penis or no penis.

Like I said, it's a grey area. How can you say a guy is not gay if he's sucking cock, right? If you suck cock, you MUST be gay! Even more, how can you say he is not gay if he is not taking cock in the ass? Yet, if it was a full on man he would never, ever do it. So it's gay, but not really by full definition. That's why I just think of it all as a 3rd option.

And if you really want to get into an unusual debate, I strongly believe transgendered people are the next step in evolution. But before you have a fit, there are animals and insects who are both male and female and can reproduce, without the need of a partner. Suppose 100 or even 500 years from now, scientists can make a male have a child. Suppose they can even make people impregnate themselves.

What if human beings become so disconnected or diseased, they could no longer mate? What if they didn't want to? What if the weaker of the males and females die off? What if the chemicals we are consuming and killing our sperm cells (BPA) as well as making us more feminine, keep pushing us that way until we no longer want women or want to breed with them? All possible in the far future.

If the day comes where scientists can create such a miracle, you will witness the next step, even if unnatural, in evolution.

Right now, the transgendered people may be in the early stages of what later may become the future of mankind. You just never know. But if you look at everything happening and read about what all these chemicals are doing to males, it doesn't look that strange at all. 100, 500, 1000, or even 10,000 years from now, the world may only be inhabited by transsexuals.

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Originally Posted by The Ghost

Don't make the mistake of thinking all posters on GFY are in the industry. Or in the industry to any measurable extent. It's always been like that. Not to mention the trolls who's job is to raise the blood pressure of the forum and keep people posting. They do a fine job of that too.

There's so many facets to the industry that most can't relate to or understand another.

Well said.

helterskelter808 · 01-25-2012, 01:30 PM

Kelly, just wondering, do you consider yourself a girl or a tranny? And if a girl, or tranny, when do you consider that happened, that you became a girl or tranny? And do you then consider yourself to be a "straight girl"?

KellyPierce · 01-25-2012, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Kelly, just wondering, do you consider yourself a girl or a tranny? And if a girl, or tranny, when do you consider that happened, that you became a girl or tranny? And do you then consider yourself to be a "straight girl"?

I consider myself a transsexual-woman. I also consider myself bi-sexual. I'm into both men and women, but only date men. I use women more for fetish, they have to be big boobed and really hot for me to be interested.

Most people I know consider me just a female, so it's not something I question every day. Unless online or in settings like these.

CyberHustler · 01-25-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KellyPierce

So you assume all girls go out of their way to 'trick' straight guys?

Aww were you tricked before..you sound wounded :P

I never said "all girls go out their way to trick", the hell you smoking? Never been tricked either, but oh boy have I heard horror stories (some true and some false I'm sure). All starting with "but he said he felt like a real girl" and ending with "I whooped his ass".

BlackCrayon · 01-25-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

. If you are turned on by women with a penis, I can't call that straight, bi or gay, it is something else.

Here is your first mistake. its not a woman, its a man who is has altered themselves to appear feminine. NOT a woman.

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I know plenty of guys who would never, ever look at another male and think he is hot or would want to have sex with him. Just the same, they don't like manly looking transsexuals. But a very passable transsexual, one that really looks, acts, and even smells like a woman, they are in, penis or no penis.

sounds like they just want an excuse to try out cock without being thought of as gay but hey, i could be wrong.

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And if you really want to get into an unusual debate, I strongly believe transgendered people are the next step in evolution. But before you have a fit, there are animals and insects who are both male and female and can reproduce, without the need of a partner. Suppose 100 or even 500 years from now, scientists can make a male have a child. Suppose they can even make people impregnate themselves.

What if human beings become so disconnected or diseased, they could no longer mate? What if they didn't want to? What if the weaker of the males and females die off? What if the chemicals we are consuming and killing our sperm cells (BPA) as well as making us more feminine, keep pushing us that way until we no longer want women or want to breed with them? All possible in the far future.

If the day comes where scientists can create such a miracle, you will witness the next step, even if unnatural, in evolution.

Right now, the transgendered people may be in the early stages of what later may become the future of mankind. You just never know. But if you look at everything happening and read about what all these chemicals are doing to males, it doesn't look that strange at all. 100, 500, 1000, or even 10,000 years from now, the world may only be inhabited by transsexuals.

Well said.

sounds interesting but let suppose you are on to something, that would suggest that transgender people are victims of living in a chemical world and don't really want to be women at all but these chemicals have feminized their brains making them think so. however these kinds of people existed 100's of years ago. its more accepted now so they're all coming out of the woodwork seeking as much attention as possible.

and why is that it seems most trannies are involved in sex work in one way or another? could it be simply that these are abused people replaying their victimization in a vain attempt to own their sexuality that was stolen as a child?

selena · 01-25-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Are you a woman in a mans body or a man in a womans body or are you happy with what you got? - Make your mind up and enter the gay or str8 catergory. If you are that good at what you do whats the problem?

There is no third gender or another sexuality we need to recognize - and my TS mates would agree.

Then you and your TS mates are dumbasses.

CaptainHowdy · 01-25-2012, 01:49 PM

Great cock, Kelly ...

CDSmith · 01-25-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

It's not even marketed as straight. It's just the only place it will sell. You can't sell it to gay men.

I find it sad that that even needs saying on an adult webmaster forum. Tranny niche has been around and been lucrative for a long time on the web. You'd think most here would know or at least have heard of how and to whom it is best marketed to.

It's simply not a gay niche. And labeling the performers "gay", "not gay" or "kind of gay" is irrelevent and rather pointless.

helterskelter808 · 01-25-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

It's not even marketed as straight. It's just the only place it will sell. You can't sell it to gay men.

You can't sell it to straight men either; only men who pretend to be straight while having, and denying, gay feelings.

Anyway, (some) honest and openly gay/bi men do like trannies. To argue otherwise implies gay men all like the same kind of 'guy'. A lot of trannies are just 'pretty' men with long hair and makeup. No boobs, no hormones, nothing.

I don't expect some people here, who obviously can't comprehend any idea or concept outside the stunted realm of pornography 'niches', to understand that though.

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I know plenty of guys who would never, ever look at another male and think he is hot or would want to have sex with him. Just the same, they don't like manly looking transsexuals. But a very passable transsexual, one that really looks, acts, and even smells like a woman, they are in, penis or no penis.

Again, that's just a refusal to be honest with themselves about what they like and why. If you like people who look like women, there are plenty of women in the world to choose from. However much makeup, perfume and short skirt trannies wear, there's ultimately no hiding what's between their legs. And you cannot possibly just 'ignore' that if you are not, to some extent, gay.

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Like I said, it's a grey area. How can you say a guy is not gay if he's sucking cock, right? If you suck cock, you MUST be gay! Even more, how can you say he is not gay if he is not taking cock in the ass? Yet, if it was a full on man he would never, ever do it. So it's gay, but not really by full definition. That's why I just think of it all as a 3rd option.

I agree that liking trannies is not (necessarily) 'fully gay'. My point/objection is that going to such lengths to claim it as "straight", which most tranny-lovers do, is homophobic.

2012 · 01-25-2012, 03:05 PM

suesheboy · 01-25-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler

If you was born a male and are attracted to males, you're a homosexual. The whole "but I feel like a girl" thing is probably the reason you are a homo, not an excuse to say you aren't one. And your husband, he's also a homo. You guys are a gay couple, just one of you guys dresses and acts like a girl. You should all be treated equal and fairly like everybody else and shit, but stop trying to mind-fuck the world into thinking being gay is some mystic complicated different level of existence that straight people can't comprehend. That's how you dudes start thinking it's cool to pick up straight men that think you're an actual woman... that type of manipulation is evil and can get you killed. A tranny is a tranny... even if you refer to him as a she. That's why nikki99 is cool in my book.

Your best post ever.

Any man or women (way they are genetically at birth) - even post op - who does not immediately announce that is what they are to who is interested in them should be thrown in jail.

They should be honest with their kids (and in-laws/close associates) as soon as the child can comprehend as well. To deceive a child long term is beyond despicable and will have repercussions that will last a lifetime. To deceive an adult acquaintance is also horrendous.

I am very understanding and dint care how people live, but of you try to trick me, watch out!

suesheboy · 01-25-2012, 03:19 PM

Boy is this going to get me on the shit list but lets be clear, gay, bi, TS and TG is a biological ERROR.

I am not saying wrong or bad but an error - just as many things in evolution - more often than not biological dead ends. The fact that I never wanted to have kids of my own biologically is an error too...but boy am I glad I didn't!

In my opinion it is not an error to be ashamed of. It just is.

DWB · 01-25-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

sounds interesting but let suppose you are on to something, that would suggest that transgender people are victims of living in a chemical world and don't really want to be women at all but these chemicals have feminized their brains making them think so. however these kinds of people existed 100's of years ago. its more accepted now so they're all coming out of the woodwork seeking as much attention as possible.

There are lots of reports of chemicals like Bisphenol A (BPA) that are mixing up sexuality in males, lowering sperm count, lowering testosterone, and causing other nasty side effects. And what countries have some of the highest exposure of BPA and BPA plants? Thailand and Brazil. Just so happens they also have the most amount of transsexuals. Probably just a coincidence. I'm not saying this is the only reason, but I do believe this may have something to do with the amount of them in some areas of the world. You wouldn't believe the amount of transsexuals in Thailand unless you came here and I showed you. Brazil is the same way.

We are ALL victims of chemical poison. They are causing all sorts of problems on a global scale.

Of course this is all my guess on a possible future. I'm clearly not a scientist. But if you think about it, it's not so far fetched considering everything that is happening today and humans basic need to survive and procreate.

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

and why is that it seems most trannies are involved in sex work in one way or another? could it be simply that these are abused people replaying their victimization in a vain attempt to own their sexuality that was stolen as a child?

This is not true at all. That's like saying, why do all females with fake tits get into porn? The amount of transgendered people in the world living normal lives not working in the sex industry is staggering.

helterskelter808 · 01-25-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

and why is that it seems most trannies are involved in sex work in one way or another? could it be simply that these are abused people replaying their victimization in a vain attempt to own their sexuality that was stolen as a child?

It's probably just because there are less opportunities for trannies in regular work, whereas adult will accept anyone and anything. Most trannies, like most men or most women, will not be involved in sex work, you just don't see trannies in everyday life as much as other men and women.

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

Boy is thsi going to get me on the shit list but lets be clear, gay bi TS and TG is a biological ERROR. I am not saying wrong or bad but an error - just as many things in evolution - more often than not biological dead ends.

So you're not saying such people are wrong or bad, they are merely defective?

suesheboy · 01-25-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

We are ALL victims of chemical poison. They are causing all sorts of problems on a global scale.

Error

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Originally Posted by DWB

Of course this is all my guess on a possible future. I'm clearly not a scientist. But if you think about it, it's not so far fetched considering everything that is happening today and humans basic need to survive and procreate.

Asexual reproduction such as cloning not procreation dead ends such as miss matched genders. Most hermaphrodites are sterile.

alias · 01-25-2012, 03:37 PM

Kelly, you do look female in body type and face.

suesheboy · 01-25-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

It's probably just because there are less opportunities for trannies in regular work, whereas adult will accept anyone and anything. Most trannies, like most men or most women, will not be involved in sex work, you just don't see trannies in everyday life as much as other men and women.

Right on. Before adult when I was in mainstream, if an obvious tranny would have filled out a job application, it woudl have never been considered by me. Even now I woudl be careful where I placed one.

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

So you're not saying such people are wrong or bad, they are merely defective?

Yes like my dyslexia.

suesheboy · 01-25-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

Kelly, you do look female in body type and face.

Make that a stunning face.

...but needs new tits or an alignment. Not trying to be cruel but being honest.

helterskelter808 · 01-25-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

There are lots of reports of chemicals like Bisphenol A (BPA) that are mixing up sexuality in males, lowering sperm count, lowering testosterone, and causing other nasty side effects. And what countries have some of the highest exposure of BPA and BPA plants? Thailand and Brazil. Just so happens they also have the most amount of transsexuals. Probably just a coincidence. I'm not saying this is the only reason, but I do believe this may have something to do with the amount of them in some areas of the world. You wouldn't believe the amount of transsexuals in Thailand unless you came here and I showed you. Brazil is the same way.

I would put that down to culture more than anything else. If there are existing 'role models' or peers for young gays then they are less likely to feel the need to hide who they are or feel guilty about it. And the more open it is, the more other people will get used it and tolerate it, even if they don't particularly like or approve of it, which in turn encourages more gays/trannies to be more open.

In the West, trannies are virtually nowhere to be seen and gays are usually confined to specific 'ghettos'. Men dressing as women has traditionally been as entertainment or comedy, so trannies are treated as a joke and the subject or ridicule or abuse. It also doesn't help that, unlike in Asia where men are arguably smaller and less 'masculine', Western trannies are often built like like brick shithouses.

DWB · 01-25-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

Error

That's not an error. Chemicals are causing problems around the world.

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

Asexual reproduction such as cloning not procreation dead ends such as miss matched genders. Most hermaphrodites are sterile.

Today.

500 years from now everything we know about science, life, reproduction, and everything else will be different.

nikki99 · 01-26-2012, 09:40 AM

bump for the tranny mafia

EddyTheDog · 01-26-2012, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog View Post
Are you a woman in a mans body or a man in a womans body or are you happy with what you got? - Make your mind up and enter the gay or str8 catergory. If you are that good at what you do whats the problem?

There is no third gender or another sexuality we need to recognize - and my TS mates would agree.

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Originally Posted by selena

Then you and your TS mates are dumbasses.

As usual, after a few beers I did not express myself well.

I was trying to make a point that was almost the opposite of what came accross in that post.

DamianJ · 01-26-2012, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by alias

Kelly, you do look female in body type and face.

And she has a lovely penis.

pornsprite · 01-26-2012, 10:26 PM

What was this thread about?

kmanrox · 01-27-2012, 01:38 AM

send all the trannies to me for proper respecting!

DWB · 01-27-2012, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by pornsprite

What was this thread about?

Transsexuals eventually controlling the universe.

globofun · 01-27-2012, 09:01 AM

Wow!

What a debate........ I can see many childish peeps in here.....stop hurting yourselves....we are here to make money.........No?

I have NO desire of having sex with a transsexual, but have been promoting tranny sites since 2005...........

One thing is important to remember folks:

"There's NO MONEY in that niche"

Now, go back to the cartoon network, or play in your sandbox.....

TurboAngel · 01-27-2012, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Am I the only one who read the whole thing?.

I think so.

BVF · 01-27-2012, 10:11 AM

What do you think black porn has been going through. And what REALLY matters are the customers who vote with dollars.

selena · 01-27-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

As usual, after a few beers I did not express myself well.

I was trying to make a point that was almost the opposite of what came accross in that post.

No harm, no foul.

You aren't the first person guilty of Posting while Intoxicated.

nikki99 · 01-27-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF

What do you think black porn has been going through. And what REALLY matters are the customers who vote with dollars.

I have a dream!

a Transsexual for president of the US!

SarahLLO · 01-27-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Qbert

They need to respect themselves first. https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1054689

I'm sorry, but I do believe you completely missed my point.

Let's be real, there's a huge amount of males on this very forum that are infinitely messier in their business and personal lives than many porn girls - and yet so many people will treat them better and give them respect in spite of such behavior while not extending the same "chance" at being respected or even talked to decently to the women in adult.

And if you deny this, you're obviously either not paying attention or you're part of the aforementioned priviliged-head-up-their-asses crowd

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Please get serious. There's no talent involved and every day a whole new group of girls with poor self esteem and a dream of a quick buck turn Eighteen.

And without them, where would you be?

Seriously, for as much as you look down on these girls, be real... you need them.

You can either be a decent human being and acknowledge that fact, or be a shithead. Either way, the fact that your money is reliant on these girls doesn't change, no matter how you try to play it off.

It's just unfortunate that so many choose the shithead route because they're not man enough to actually treat human beings like human beings, no matter what the industry

ETA: This thread got reaaaaaally long since I last posted, sorry for the derail. I probably shouldn't even bother with hopeless causes, but I'm an idealist =P

GAMEFINEST · 01-27-2012, 10:47 PM

didnt realize it would last this long, so i am posting

WarChild · 01-27-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SarahLLO

I'm sorry, but I do believe you completely missed my point.

Let's be real, there's a huge amount of males on this very forum that are infinitely messier in their business and personal lives than many porn girls - and yet so many people will treat them better and give them respect in spite of such behavior while not extending the same "chance" at being respected or even talked to decently to the women in adult.

And if you deny this, you're obviously either not paying attention or you're part of the aforementioned priviliged-head-up-their-asses crowd

And without them, where would you be?

Seriously, for as much as you look down on these girls, be real... you need them.

You can either be a decent human being and acknowledge that fact, or be a shithead. Either way, the fact that your money is reliant on these girls doesn't change, no matter how you try to play it off.

It's just unfortunate that so many choose the shithead route because they're not man enough to actually treat human beings like human beings, no matter what the industry

ETA: This thread got reaaaaaally long since I last posted, sorry for the derail. I probably shouldn't even bother with hopeless causes, but I'm an idealist =P

Yes and McDonalds needs minimum wage employees too. Doesn't mean they're hard to find or automatically deserving of respect. Respect is earned never given and just because I make my money on the back of other's poor choices doesn't earn them even a tiny bit of respect from me. They have to earn it like everyone else.

SarahLLO · 01-27-2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Yes and McDonalds needs minimum wage employees too. Doesn't mean they're hard to find or automatically deserving of respect. Respect is earned never given and just because I make my money on the back of other's poor choices doesn't earn them even a tiny bit of respect from me. They have to earn it like everyone else.

Then we simply have differing views on life.

I prefer to treat everyone with some modicum of respect, regardless of their job, race, sexuality, etc. If you treat me badly after that, then sure, I'll lose respect. But treating someone like shit from the get-go because they have to "earn respect first" really just buys you more disrespect in return and causes more problems than it solves =P

I was just raised differently, probably =)

I should also say that I don't find it inherently "bad" for these women to be fucking on camera. Obviously, I love them for doing so. Some of them definitely have questionable reasons/backgrounds for doing so, but the mere act of getting naked for money is not a morally wrong thing, in my eyes, and that in and of itself doesn't make them less than, for me at least. I know that many people disagree.

ETA: Quit ruining my plans to stop derailing T.T

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01-25-2012, 12:47 PM	#205
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