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slavdogg · 01-24-2012, 03:35 PM

show us your cock

barcodes · 01-24-2012, 03:35 PM

I just realized I read this whole thing wrong

seanchai · 01-24-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by barcodes

I don't care if a guy wants to fuck a tranny and call himself straight, I wont judge the guy. I am just saying I don't totally understand it is all.

Neither do I 100% even after working in it for 16 yrs and knowing 1000s of tgirls and guys into them, it's constantly evolving.
You wouldn't deny there is a big niche for strap-on sex porn, something which I don't get either but that's marketed to the straight/mainstream customers.

BlackCrayon · 01-24-2012, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by seanchai

What about guys into strap-ons are they all gay?
Why do you need chromosommes to tell you the "true story" ?

Go to the corner, dumbo.

yep, gay or bi. just take a second to think about it. a strap on is a fake cock. whats the difference between that and a real one besides being plastic and what its attached to?

and i get tired of trannies labeling themselves as girls when they are just surgically altered men. ever hear of the xy and xx chromosomes? i guess not.

WarChild · 01-24-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

yep, gay or bi. just take a second to think about it. a strap on is a fake cock. whats the difference between that and a real one besides being plastic and what its attached to?

and i get tired of trannies labeling themselves as girls when they are just surgically altered men. ever hear of the xy and xx chromosomes? i guess not.

No you don't understand. If somebody thinks they're Jesus Christ reborn, or an animal trapped in a human body then we label that crazy. If you're just some weirdo who thinks you're a woman trapped in a man's body then apparently you have to respect that.

Sorry weirdos, sticking feathers up your ass does not make you a chicken.

BlackCrayon · 01-24-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

So when people like trannies but deny it is in any way gay, what they are doing is saying they think there is something wrong with being gay or having gay feelings. The tranny 'niche' is marketed as 'straight' simply because most of the people who like trannies are so homophibic (self-hating) they can't stand the thought that that they are in some way gay. That is offensive and homophobic.

bingo, in their twisted minds because it looks like a girl and had tits they somehow can get around the gay issue, depsite the cock being there. these people must have a lot going on in their heads that they need to deal with.

suesheboy · 01-24-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by barcodes

Personally, I would question my sexuality if I wanted my girlfriend to penetrate my ass with anything.

What age range are you?

(No insult intended just wondering)

Folks we sell SEX. We should not be closed minded and at least more understanding of others desires even if it doesn't float our boat.

I for one am very interested in this discussion as long as it is kept civil. Cant hurt to understand what in the head of the guy or girl at the other end of the NET.

KellyPierce · 01-24-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

No you don't understand. If somebody thinks they're Jesus Christ reborn, or an animal trapped in a human body then we label that crazy. If you're just some weirdo who thinks you're a woman trapped in a man's body then apparently you have to respect that.

Sorry weirdos, sticking feathers up your ass does not make you a chicken.

And this folks is why America is great we all have our opinions and can express them...

Just some are more ignorant than others

seanchai · 01-24-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

yep, gay or bi. just take a second to think about it. a strap on is a fake cock. whats the difference between that and a real one besides being plastic and what its attached to?

and i get tired of trannies labeling themselves as girls when they are just surgically altered men. ever hear of the xy and xx chromosomes? i guess not.

Maybe you should read up on xx and xy.
http://www.gender.org.uk/about/04embryo/42_gnerr.htm

barcodes · 01-24-2012, 03:43 PM

I need to get back on track here. When you say tranny, do you mean pre op or post op.
I was speaking in reference to my gfs crossdressing friend who is pre op but wants to get that done.

If you are talking about post op, then I don't know what to say.
It depends on the guy if he thinks hes gay or not? He isn't getting penetrated and technically hes fucking a hole?!

As you can see I am pretty ignorant on that and have no place discussing it.

I was referring to pre op, sorry for the confusion.

seanchai · 01-24-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KellyPierce

And this folks is why America is great we all have our opinions and can express them...

Just some are more ignorant than others

Welcome to GFY - it's fairly irrelevant with only a few industry representatives in here, the rest are mainly failures or just general trolls.

barcodes · 01-24-2012, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

What age range are you?

(No insult intended just wondering)

Folks we sell SEX. We should not be closed minded and at least more understanding of others desires even if it doesn't float our boat.

I for one am very interested in thsi discussion as long as it is kept civil. Cant hurt to understand what in the head of the guy or girl at the other end of the NET.

I didn't say I was against selling it or people watching it.
What I meant to imply was that I could not fathom or want it being done to me personally.
Just because I don't want something done to me doesn't mean I hate everyone that does.
I have been trying to sound sensitive or civil, it is hard to speak about something your not into without offending someone sometimes, hence the my statements about not trying to be offensive in each of my posts.

I was just trying to engage in the discussion and find out about whats going on in my friends head was all. To me, since he sucked a mans penis, that was pretty much a gay act. These people are saying it isn't i think, and I was curious how it wasn't and if they felt my friend wasn't gay because of his reasoning.

Edit: I am 29, 30 in March

u-Bob · 01-24-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

I read the whole post as the OP used paragraphs and it was fairly well written.

To be honest, I couldn't believe something like that was posted on GFY.

helterskelter808 · 01-24-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by seanchai

What's homophobia got to do with marketing from straight sites.

How many ways do you need it explained? Most people into trannies, including you, go to ridiculously enormous lengths, just as you are doing now, to deny that liking tranny cock is gay. Why? Because they, and you, think there is something wrong with being gay. Referring to gay people as "homos" just reinforces what a self-hater you are.

When your customers are drooling over those meaty cocks, they're not thinking of the gender on the tranny's ID, they're dreaming of sucking some hairy balls dry and/or taking a fat load up their ass.

Nothing wrong with that, but however much you try and deny it because you think being gay is something to be ashamed of, there's nothing straight about it either.

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Come to our Tranny Awards next month - not only will you see plenty of non-homophobic guys I'll get a chance to kick you in the nuts.

I know you can't help yourself, but please try to stop thinking about my nuts.

suesheboy · 01-24-2012, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by barcodes

Edit: I am 29, 30 in March

By now you should have had a GF tease you with a finger. You may be very happily surprised and that won't make you gay.

Operator · 01-24-2012, 03:57 PM

Our open free traffic community became an evil monopoly.
Sorry if we seem bitter Mr. Transsexual.

seanchai · 01-24-2012, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Referring to gay people as "homos" just reinforces what a self-hater you are.

Fuck ... I knew not to use humour on GFY ... most aren't smart enough to get it.

Yeah, can see your one that won't listen to reason but that's fine ... it's really not what the posts about anyway.
Go back to work, your tea break is over.

Believe me, I don't need the TS niche explained by you.

KellyPierce · 01-24-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Operator

Our open free traffic community became an evil monopoly.
Sorry if we seem bitter Mr. Transsexual.

Yawn, while you act like kids

I have to go get dinner on the table for my husband and step-daughter

And then cam for money

Have a nice night grumpy butt..

barcodes · 01-24-2012, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

By now you should have had a GF tease you with a finger. You may be very happily surprised and that won't make you gay.

I have been with my girlfriend on and off, but mostly on since I was 16.
I fucked her in the ass once. She had never tried it and neither had I.
She complained of pain and said that she bled a little afterwards, she thought maybe she ripped some tissue or something.

We bought her this weird like anal preparedness kit before we did it lmfao

but it didn't help. It was like this small vibrator with these different sized rubber attachments, one was a tiny bit bigger than the other lol.

It didn't really seem like a magnificent thing at the time meaning something I would want to ditch vaginal sex for, so we never really did it again after that. She didn't like it one bit, why would I force it on her. In the same sense, she knows I don't want a finger up my ass and probably doesn't want her finger in there anyway.

The other girls I had been with never tried to either. I don't think any woman would want to voluntarily do that, but I could be wrong lol.

Am I missing out on anything other than some crying afterward from myself and maybe her as well? Do a lot of chicks really try to sneak one in there?

CyberHustler · 01-24-2012, 04:09 PM

Just for the record, I don't care what you other dudes enjoy... but if my wife puts anything near my ass she's going to catch an instinctual backhand to the face. She knows better though. I know it wont turn me gay, but it's against my personal man code.

suesheboy · 01-24-2012, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

How many ways do you need it explained? Most people into trannies, including you, go to ridiculously enormous lengths, just as you are doing now, to deny that liking tranny cock is gay. Why? Because they, and you, think there is something wrong with being gay. Referring to gay people as "homos" just reinforces what a self-hater you are.

When your customers are drooling over those meaty cocks, they're not thinking of the gender on the tranny's ID, they're dreaming of sucking some hairy balls dry and/or taking a fat load up their ass.

Nothing wrong with that, but however much you try and deny it because you think being gay is something to be ashamed of, there's nothing straight about it either.

Seems plausible to me. We need the opinion of Dr Ruth on this one...

No disrespect but someone in the lifestyle may be to close to see this.

barcodes · 01-24-2012, 04:15 PM

Ayla_SquareTurtle · 01-24-2012, 04:15 PM

You'd be hard pressed to find a bigger supporter of trans rights than me around here, but this is just fucking stupid and melodramatic.

Even if what you said is 100% true, you should be ashamed of yourself for conflating it with rape. Fuck you. You didn't win an award, and that's like being raped? The fuck outta here with your BS.

helterskelter808 · 01-24-2012, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Fuck ... I knew not to use humour on GFY ... most aren't smart enough to get it.

Yeah, can see your one that won't listen to reason but that's fine ... it's really not what the posts about anyway.
Go back to work, your tea break is over.

Believe me, I don't need the TS niche explained by you.

Dude, you're an .XXX supporting middle-aged tranny porn peddler who thinks his forum bad ass act is anything but risible, and such a "smart" guy you haven't yet mastered the difference between "your" and "you're". (The classic test of online mongoloidism.)

I think "reason" is a concept just slightly beyond your ken.

suesheboy · 01-24-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by barcodes

I have been with my girlfriend on and off, but mostly on since I was 16.
I fucked her in the ass once. She had never tried it and neither had I.
She complained of pain and said that she bled a little afterwards, she thought maybe she ripped some tissue or something.

We bought her this weird like anal preparedness kit before we did it lmfao

but it didn't help. It was like this small vibrator with these different sized rubber attachments, one was a tiny bit bigger than the other lol.

It didn't really seem like a magnificent thing at the time meaning something I would want to ditch vaginal sex for, so we never really did it again after that. She didn't like it one bit, why would I force it on her. In the same sense, she knows I don't want a finger up my ass and probably doesn't want her finger in there anyway.

The other girls I had been with never tried to either. I don't think any woman would want to voluntarily do that, but I could be wrong lol.

Am I missing out on anything other than some crying afterward from myself and maybe her as well? Do a lot of chicks really try to sneak one in there?

Obliviously you did something wrong.

It is a processes that takes patience and lots of Eze! Unfortunately neither of you may want to try it again given your past experience.

alias · 01-24-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

Even if what you said is 100% true, you should be ashamed of yourself for conflating it with rape. Fuck you. You didn't win an award, and that's like being raped? The fuck outta here with your BS.

Not cool for innocent victims of rape to have the brutal and violent crime that tortures them daily analogous with not winning an award.

georgeyw · 01-24-2012, 04:22 PM

Serious question for TS.

If you have a penis, why do TS refer to themselves as *she*?

Serious question - no hate.

Have dick = he.

Have pussy = she.

There is no grey area here.

BlackCrayon · 01-24-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KellyPierce

Yawn, while you act like kids

I have to go get dinner on the table for my husband and step-daughter

And then cam for money

Have a nice night grumpy butt..

the step daughter must be all kinds of confused.

Catalyst · 01-24-2012, 04:26 PM

I want more pics.. too much reading

suesheboy · 01-24-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

you should be ashamed of yourself for conflating it with rape. Fuck you. You didn't win an award, and that's like being raped?

It is an insult to anyone who has been raped to use that word. Robbed? I doubt it but raped? Certainly not.

Guest she is a drama queen </bad joke>

seanchai · 01-24-2012, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Dude, you're an .XXX supporting middle-aged tranny porn peddler who thinks his forum bad ass act is anything but risible, and such a "smart" guy you haven't yet mastered the difference between "your" and "you're". (The classic test of online mongoloidism.)

I think "reason" is a concept just slightly beyond your ken.

Bad ass? I'm not the one hiding behind a anonymous screen name with no links to anything in the industry, I can be found at practically any show, if you want to debate this in person.
What has .XXX or age got to do with it? Weak.

I didn't get in this thread to debate the old "am I gay because I like trannies" ... who the fuck really knows, I just know for a fact how much of my traffic comes from straight websites and how many of my members DON'T class themselves as gay. Whether they are bi, omni or straight with a twist is irrelevant, I just don't really care.
However, what I do care about and what the ignorance shown in this thread has proven, is the education that transsexuals are not homosexual men who had a bit surgery and a few hormones. There is a far wider spectrum than simply going on the chromosomes or whether they have a penis (or were born with one). If youare too misogynistic to get past that or even consider it, then you are not worth the space.

Constantin · 01-24-2012, 04:31 PM

Who is Madison Montag?
I like Mariana Cordoba

helterskelter808 · 01-24-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw

Serious question for TS.

If you have a penis, why do TS refer to themselves as *she*?

Serious question - no hate.

Have dick = he.

Have pussy = she.

There is no grey area here.

Trannies, however much surgery and time and effort they put in, are not 'real' women, they cannot ever be, and I doubt any tranny would claim to be. However if they want to call themselves 'she' and think of themselves as a 'she', and look like a 'she' (with their clothes on), why not? In fact even if they didn't look female, why not?

It's just common decency to call someone the way they want to be called.

alias · 01-24-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

It's just common decency to call someone the way they want to be called.

Try requesting to be called "lord", "king" or "president" helterskelter808. Please report back with your results.

KellyPierce · 01-24-2012, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

the step daughter must be all kinds of confused.

You are really going to try to sit there and say she can tell I was born a man?

Please sweetheart...

I conduct myself as a lady, and have since I was 12 years old

I went to high school as a girl and college

I don't need to sit in judgment of others and I don't need to be a bully to make myself feel better.

We get it you are "straight"

It's usually the loudest criers and the ones that make fun

That will be sucking dick in the bathroom stall...

KellyPierce · 01-24-2012, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Catalyst

I want more pics.. too much reading

I can't post pics till I get to 30 posts that's the rules

BlackCrayon · 01-24-2012, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by seanchai

However, what I do care about and what the ignorance shown in this thread has proven, is the education that transsexuals are not homosexual men who had a bit surgery and a few hormones. There is a far wider spectrum than simply going on the chromosomes or whether they have a penis (or were born with one). If youare too misogynistic to get past that or even consider it, then you are not worth the space.

thats just the reality you want to project but its opinion, not fact.

BlackCrayon · 01-24-2012, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KellyPierce

You are really going to try to sit there and say she can tell I was born a man?

Please sweetheart...

I conduct myself as a lady, and have since I was 12 years old

I went to high school as a girl and college

I don't need to sit in judgment of others and I don't need to be a bully to make myself feel better.

We get it you are "straight"

It's usually the loudest criers and the ones that make fun

That will be sucking dick in the bathroom stall...

i'm just saying she in for a mindfuck when she finds out and trust me, she will at some point. people are free to live whatever weird lifestyle they want but should think about how it effects others, including loved ones around them. and yep, i'm gay because i think its foolish that trannies identify as women. you got me.

KellyPierce · 01-24-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

i'm just saying she in for a mindfuck when she finds out and trust me, she will at some point. people are free to live whatever weird lifestyle they want but should think about how it effects others, including loved ones around them. and yep, i'm gay because i think its foolish that trannies identify as women. you got me.

Why are you so obsessed with what's between the legs...

A personality is more than a dick..more than a pussy...

If I cut off your dick..at the end of the day..yes you may miss it and feel depressed

You'd still feel like a man..

Just like when I wake up every morning I don't question I'm a woman...

alias · 01-24-2012, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KellyPierce

You are really going to try to sit there and say she can tell I was born a man?

So you are proud of your TS identity online but in your own family life offline you have to hide the truth?

That must be hard.

DarkJedi · 01-24-2012, 04:49 PM

Kelli58 · 01-24-2012, 04:50 PM

Wasn't this exact same complaint made about BBW's a few years ago? Hell they weren't even allowed booths, at least the tranny market people can get those.

The truth of the matter is, life isn't fair. I'm sorry but it's just not. In the end the red carpet isn't for you to feel good about yourself, it's about a recorded produced show for the media and more importantly for a side deal they made with someone like Showtime. That's BIG bucks and they want the pretty faces in the fancy dresses. Period. If you aren't that then you don't care to the producers of the show.

As far as the awards go, they forgot to announce the winner of the female performer of the year, this year. Seriously.

The show itself wasn't really run all that well and complaining like you have, using words like "rape" only make you sound like a sore loser.

I can remember a time some guy was bitching up a storm before because his wife never even got nominated for awards. She wasn't in a single movie that year mind you and she's almost unheard of minus a very niche specific site she runs, which given does have a large cult following, but again she was not in a single DVD that entire previous year nor did she work for a single company like Naughty America or anything that year. So what did he exact? That AVN and XBIZ should roll out the red carpet for some random chick that wasn't even on their radar because he said so?

I never forgot that guy and his wife and now every time I hear anyone complain about the awards I think of him.

Go out there and star in a movie that sells 20,000 DVDs this year and then you'll get noticed. Trust me. You'll get noticed.

It's not about your genre, it's about you or the fact that in the scheme of things your sales figures mean nothing. If all of his means so much and you want these awards then go make those movies, get those kind of sales figures and watch how fast things change for you. Hell, get half of those sales figures per DVD and you'll be a super star in the industry.

KellyPierce · 01-24-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

So you are proud of your TS identity online but in your own family life offline you have to hide the truth?

That must be hard.

Hide? lmao

I again don't think being a transsexual is brought up in my every day circumstances

Am I supposed to wear a shirt down the street that states "I'm a transsexual"

Anyone I know doesn't think of me as a man and could never..

Only people that make it an issue are people like yourselves...

I am not ashamed of being ts..I have been an activist for years..went up against politicians and more

Furthermore I'm a step-mother, that is her parents place.

Not mine..to make the decision to tell her.

alias · 01-24-2012, 04:53 PM

I guess the period advice will have to be fudged though.. .

BlackCrayon · 01-24-2012, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KellyPierce

Why are you so obsessed with what's between the legs...

A personality is more than a dick..more than a pussy...

If I cut off your dick..at the end of the day..yes you may miss it and feel depressed

You'd still feel like a man..

Just like when I wake up every morning I don't question I'm a woman...

if you could actually get past gender issues you'd realize you don't have to dress as a woman get fake tits ect. why are you so obsessed with gender? why go to such extremes to try and 'prove' what you feel you really are? why can't you just be you? a guy who has feminine qualities and prefers men?

KellyPierce · 01-24-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelli58

Wasn't this exact same complaint made about BBW's a few years ago? Hell they weren't even allowed booths, at least the tranny market people can get those.

The truth of the matter is, life isn't fair. I'm sorry but it's just not. In the end the red carpet isn't for you to feel good about yourself, it's about a recorded produced show for the media and more importantly for a side deal they made with someone like Showtime. That's BIG bucks and they want the pretty faces in the fancy dresses. Period. If you aren't that then you don't care to the producers of the show.

As far as the awards go, they forgot to announce the winner of the female performer of the year, this year. Seriously.

The show itself wasn't really run all that well and complaining like you have, using words like "rape" only make you sound like a sore loser.

I can remember a time some guy was bitching up a storm before because his wife never even got nominated for awards. She wasn't in a single movie that year mind you and she's almost unheard of minus a very niche specific site she runs, which given does have a large cult following, but again she was not in a single DVD that entire previous year nor did she work for a single company like Naughty America or anything that year. So what did he exact? That AVN and XBIZ should roll out the red carpet for some random chick that wasn't even on their radar because he said so?

I never forgot that guy and his wife and now every time I hear anyone complain about the awards I think of him.

Go out there and star in a movie that sells 20,000 DVDs this year and then you'll get noticed. Trust me. You'll get noticed.

It's not about your genre, it's about you or the fact that in the scheme of things your sales figures mean nothing. If all of his means so much and you want these awards then go make those movies, get those kind of sales figures and watch how fast things change for you. Hell, get half of those sales figures per DVD and you'll be a super star in the industry.

Kelli in all due respect my posting had nothing to do with the winners...

I could care less who wins..let kermit the frog win for all I care..

I think all nominees should be treated with respect

And segregation and inequality is uncalled for when mainstream award shows and mainstream networks have trans on there all the time..

Yasmin Lee, Candis Cayne in Dirty Money, and more

As well as ShowTime has it's own transsexual show shown at night where three girls go across America

And Gigolos featured Ts Foxxy on there..

I think all performers if nominated should be treated fairly

We are the adult industry, and supposed to be open-minded and liberal

Not a bunch of Republicans with a corn cob up our ass...

Read mine Kelli

AVN’s Inequality & Segregation Needs to Stop!

Let me start by expressing this post is only about about the unfairness and inequality of how they treat transsexual nominees at AVN. If you are reading it for any other reason, move on! This has been going on for years, and many Transsexual performers and non-transsexual performers/fans who support the ts genre are fed up!

The inequality and segregation of mainstream nominees and transsexual nominees needs to stop! In my opinion if you are a nominee of an award show, you should be treated with respect and be able to take your moment to shine like any other nominee. I know many will say “why do you care? It’s just an award show GEEZE!” The reason you should care if you a transsexual nominee! It’s an award show that gets played on Showtime, and has some of the biggest media camps interviewing on the red carpet. Something that could push a your career farther or the transsexual genre farther. Exposure is everything in this business, and you are missing on a lot of it!

Yes, transsexual performers are allowed on the red carpet, but when it comes to interviews they are taken off the red carpet so they can be “hidden”. If somehow a transsexual gets interviewed by one of the host for Showtime it’s edited out. Transsexual performers are also not allowed to walk up and receive their award and it’s announced at the end so it’s not part of the show. The award will be mailed to the winner. While every other mainstream star/company gets to walk up and accept their award. They treat the transsexual genre like a pack of animals put in a cage. To me it’s basically a form of segregation! Isn’t it funny a mainstream award show is more accepting to transgender individuals than a porn award show? They interview stars who have done mainstream roles like Yasmin Lee and Candis Cayne all the time on the red carpets. Yet, AVN is stuck in the past of segregation.

Past nominees and winners have to thank Joanna Jett for the transsexual niche even being part of AVN. She is the one who fought for transsexuals to be part of it, but now the fight is to have transsexuals stars given the same respect and privileges of the mainstream stars at AVN. Why should someone be pushed aside, because they are transsexual? I love DJ Chi Chi Larue, and AVN Must too! They parade Chi Chi who is a drag queen all over the stage, but somehow in AVN’s opinion a transsexual is just too TABOO. I personally think they are scared at how beautiful some of the transsexuals are today, and don’t want the ts performers to outshine the females. Since so many female performers with their collagened up lips and big tits look like a stereotypical transsexual. Transsexuals in general are looking better today, due to transitioning younger, better surgeries, and better hormones. Some you would never guess unless they were naked.

What pushed the limit this year for me and many others is three ts performers were made to wait in line with the fans. Two of which were nominees. Brittany St Jordan who wrote her own article on the matter, and Jesse Flores. The other ts performer was Michelle Austin. From what I was told, the handlers of the red carpet were telling nominees to move to the front of the line to walk the red carpet. That way they didn’t have to wait, since they only have so long to walk it before the award show begins. When Brittany informed the handlers they were nominees for transsexual performer of the year, they were told to wait in line with the fans while other mainstream stars were ushered onto the red carpet. Instead of enjoying their moment they were put in fan line which took them three hours to get onto the red carpet. Let me be fair though there were other ts-girls who got the same privileges to move to the front of the line, but those performers had PR teams and friends in the industry. To put more fuel on the fire Jesse was ushered into a hallway after walking the carpet, instead of being able to give a single interview. Interviews that may of pushed her brand and given her some mainstream coverage.

Year after Year transsexual girls flock to the award show hoping to get some recognition for their hard work. Then year after year leave disappointed. I personally only take part in the fan shows, so I can meet my fans. I do not support an award show that doesn’t treat all nominees to the respect and treatment they deserve. I am very proud of XBIZ for treating all of it’s nominees equally. They realize that most men that watch “straight” porn, watch transsexual porn.

For ones still wanting to say why should I care or why are you bitching! How do you think mainstream stars like Jesse Jane and Jenna Jameson made it big besides their beauty? They were pushed in someone’s face, exposure! Ads were taken out on them, interviews, tv appearances, and more. If you are building a successful brand you need all the exposure you can get. That’s how STARS, become stars and every facet of the entertainment business. Why many girls pay 500 to 2000 dollars a month on a PR team to expand their brand.

I find it pathetic networks and movie studios like NBC, Showtime, Warnerbros, and more will feature a transsexual in a show or movie with no problem. Then a industry built on sex and supposed to be open-minded shy away from it. They are too scared to take the same initiative. More people are becoming more accepting and even bi-sexual if not poly-sexual. Not to mention AVN many men who watch TRANNY PORN, watch STRAIGHT PORN. They are not or do not feel they are gay. Many are only into women and transsexuals. Stop living in the 1980’s and move onto the future of acceptance and equality. Segregation is disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yourselves of how you treat the transgender niche!

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helterskelter808 · 01-24-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by seanchai

I didn't get in this thread to debate the old "am I gay because I like trannies" ... who the fuck really knows, I just know for a fact how much of my traffic comes from straight websites and how many of my members DON'T class themselves as gay.

Nobody disagreed with that. In fact it's the basis of my point. Why isn't that old question, "who cares if I'm gay because I like trannies?"

Answer: Because the people asking it do care. They worry about it because they think there is something wrong with being gay. It has nothing to do with the tranny niche, porn, your company or anything else.

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However, what I do care about and what the ignorance shown in this thread has proven, is the education that transsexuals are not homosexual men who had a bit surgery and a few hormones.

Not only are the vast majority of "transsexuals" homosexual men with (or without) surgery or hormones, many of them are happy to identify themselves as "gay", even after changing their look from male to 'female'. It's just a word to them, with no negative connotations. It's ironic that self-styled open-minded 'defenders' of trannies get so hung up about not calling trannies "gay".

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If youare too misogynistic to get past that or even consider it, then you are not worth the space.

Misogynistic? Pick up a dictionary before your next post.

alias · 01-24-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelli58

I can remember a time some guy was bitching up a storm before because his wife never even got nominated for awards. She wasn't in a single movie that year mind you and she's almost unheard of minus a very niche specific site she runs, which given does have a large cult following, but again she was not in a single DVD that entire previous year nor did she work for a single company like Naughty America or anything that year. So what did he exact? That AVN and XBIZ should roll out the red carpet for some random chick that wasn't even on their radar because he said so?

I never forgot that guy and his wife and now every time I hear anyone complain about the awards I think of him.

Robbie/Claudia Marie?

JFK · 01-24-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Catalyst

I want more pics.. too much reading

Yeah, thanks

suesheboy · 01-24-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelli58

Wasn't this exact same complaint made about BBW's a few years ago? Hell they weren't even allowed booths, at least the tranny market people can get those.

The truth of the matter is, life isn't fair. I'm sorry but it's just not. In the end the red carpet isn't for you to feel good about yourself, it's about a recorded produced show for the media and more importantly for a side deal they made with someone like Showtime. That's BIG bucks and they want the pretty faces in the fancy dresses. Period. If you aren't that then you don't care to the producers of the show.

As far as the awards go, they forgot to announce the winner of the female performer of the year, this year. Seriously.

The show itself wasn't really run all that well and complaining like you have, using words like "rape" only make you sound like a sore loser.

I can remember a time some guy was bitching up a storm before because his wife never even got nominated for awards. She wasn't in a single movie that year mind you and she's almost unheard of minus a very niche specific site she runs, which given does have a large cult following, but again she was not in a single DVD that entire previous year nor did she work for a single company like Naughty America or anything that year. So what did he exact? That AVN and XBIZ should roll out the red carpet for some random chick that wasn't even on their radar because he said so?

I never forgot that guy and his wife and now every time I hear anyone complain about the awards I think of him.

Go out there and star in a movie that sells 20,000 DVDs this year and then you'll get noticed. Trust me. You'll get noticed.

It's not about your genre, it's about you or the fact that in the scheme of things your sales figures mean nothing. If all of his means so much and you want these awards then go make those movies, get those kind of sales figures and watch how fast things change for you. Hell, get half of those sales figures per DVD and you'll be a super star in the industry.

Please post here more often

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01-24-2012, 04:15 PM	#123
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01-24-2012, 04:50 PM	#142
Kelli58 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 2,099	Wasn't this exact same complaint made about BBW's a few years ago? Hell they weren't even allowed booths, at least the tranny market people can get those. The truth of the matter is, life isn't fair. I'm sorry but it's just not. In the end the red carpet isn't for you to feel good about yourself, it's about a recorded produced show for the media and more importantly for a side deal they made with someone like Showtime. That's BIG bucks and they want the pretty faces in the fancy dresses. Period. If you aren't that then you don't care to the producers of the show. As far as the awards go, they forgot to announce the winner of the female performer of the year, this year. Seriously. The show itself wasn't really run all that well and complaining like you have, using words like "rape" only make you sound like a sore loser. I can remember a time some guy was bitching up a storm before because his wife never even got nominated for awards. She wasn't in a single movie that year mind you and she's almost unheard of minus a very niche specific site she runs, which given does have a large cult following, but again she was not in a single DVD that entire previous year nor did she work for a single company like Naughty America or anything that year. So what did he exact? That AVN and XBIZ should roll out the red carpet for some random chick that wasn't even on their radar because he said so? I never forgot that guy and his wife and now every time I hear anyone complain about the awards I think of him. Go out there and star in a movie that sells 20,000 DVDs this year and then you'll get noticed. Trust me. You'll get noticed. It's not about your genre, it's about you or the fact that in the scheme of things your sales figures mean nothing. If all of his means so much and you want these awards then go make those movies, get those kind of sales figures and watch how fast things change for you. Hell, get half of those sales figures per DVD and you'll be a super star in the industry. __________________ Kandy AI 🍭🍬 Take a bite out of censorship 🍭🍬 We believe in empowering adults to use AI as they see fit. 👉 Get AI to write your scene descriptions for you 👈

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barcodes Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 2,040	I need to get back on track here. When you say tranny, do you mean pre op or post op. I was speaking in reference to my gfs crossdressing friend who is pre op but wants to get that done. If you are talking about post op, then I don't know what to say. It depends on the guy if he thinks hes gay or not? He isn't getting penetrated and technically hes fucking a hole?! As you can see I am pretty ignorant on that and have no place discussing it. I was referring to pre op, sorry for the confusion.

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