hahahahaha... look at all the big men talking tough about war making pathetic excuses as to why they aren't going to fight for their country.

I love it... the ultimate keyboard warriors... the war is going to be easy to fight from behind your computer isn't it boys!

Ya ya, whatever Joey. Just answer the question...... if your country was being invaded, what would it be..... surrender, or fight?



Because, although there are a lot of guys that are too old, or have some ailment or defect that the army won't accept them because of, fact is that these types of people would very well be any country's last line of defense. Try looking up "the Home Guard" of Great Britain during WWII, and you'll soon see how invlaluable such a force can be to a country during such times.

This guy is truly a cluck. And a dumb one at that.



You're not worthy for Canada.

I'm not talking about guys who are too old or who have ailments or defects. I'm talking about perfectly healthy (although possibly fat from too many cheeseburgers) males 18-30 around here who keep talking tough about war. In short, don't talk the talk unless you're gonna walk the walk. Otherwise, you're just another loudmouth coward.

As for me, I don't support war. I would fight if attacked but would NEVER go overseas to fight a war for the rich and powerful.

Let 'em step onto my country's land where I can see them, and they'll have a 30.06 through their skull, CDSmith. I'll be right up there beside ya.
(Sorry, don't personally own anything smaller, but I could borrow a few within half an hour.)

BTW - I really don't like the initial post's referring to America as the "fatherland". This ain't Russia.

You will be looked upon like a hero?
Oh Ok, you mean like all those kids who died in Vietnam and came back as heros?
Or do you mean those guys who had to kill in order to survive only to come home with one leg/arm short and were called "babykiller"

The media is going to play war on this one, it will show the world how Americans will kill kids and women to survive. This will be a ground war.

You come back as a hero? Don't bet on it, there are already anit war demonstrations all over the world, and the "babykiller" signs have already climbed out of the long forgotten closet.

For those who are to young, for those who don't remember. Talk to some Vietnam Vets and ask them if they are considered heros.

And Vietnam was never a war it was a conflict.

I hope it doesn't come to it, but there are so many rights and religious people in the world and expecially in the US, Let the first picture of a dead child come over the american tv and sit back and watch the public spew hate slogans at the fighters of liberty, peace and freedom.

Watch and see!

Been there, done that, lost enough friends,, not going there again

That almost sounds convincing.

If they do I will definately have to go. so hopefully it is not that big of a war so that they don't impose a draft.

Steffie, a draft is unlikely, but if it would happen, would it be okay with you to send your kids off?

Picture them getting caught by Extremists and slaughtered like human cattle?

Reinstating the draft is a very strong possiblilty.

We already have a so-called war going on in Afghanistan, a 99.9% chance of a war in Iraq, and all this crap with N Korea. Not to mention Iran. You can also throw in the 'war on terrorism'.
Bush has managed all this in just 2 years, whats another 2 years going to bring?
Rumsfeld has already mention many times war with multiple countries is a possibilty.

And now U.S. Rep. Charles Rangel of New York, top Democrat on the House Ways and Means Committee, has introduced a bill for compulsory military or national service for men and women, ages 18-26, without exemptions for college or graduate studies.

I would be a little more than concerned if I was in that age group.

Yep, no question about it, war sucks. Nobody in their right mind wants it. But sometimes people who shout the loudest for peace are complete idiots too. Sometimes circumstances in the world leave a country or a group of countries no choice but to take action, serious hard-hitting action, in order to preserve the very freedoms that give peace-ralliers the right to protest.

I do not think that they want a "draft army" right now. They want people that are willing and ready. Besides most wars now are not based on how many men you have to fight.

no shit im turning 19 this year, and id be damned sure they go after us first then any other age group, 18 and 19, plus where i live, there is an army base about 30 min away, mcdill army base or some shit, i always hear jets flying over my house within the past 2-3 weeks

im in the uk i dunno if they will have a so called draft

but i know for sure i aint going

Hey, I have an idea. While you are asking those vietmam veterans whether or not they are heros, why don't you try and convince them it wasn't a war...

I served with vets from nam (for a short time before forced retirement) to desert storm. No, none of them would consider themselves heros. While you do not think so either, to me they are heros just for ENDURING it. Same as any WOMAN to me is a hero for surviving an abusive relationship. Both very traumatic and some people never make it back to the real world in EITHER case.

I like Draft Beer

If I could fight I would if the country asked, even if I personally did not think the war was right.

Now assuming there was a draft, is it not far to draft the women to? I mean they did demand equality right?

That won't fly with the mothers of america.

Would have to say, so what. Let em bitch and complain, they want equality everywhere, so equality taking a bullet is only fair.

Im only 20 i guess I wont get drafted till i hit 21.

But if they call me. I think I will go.

I agree. But Bush wants a second term, I guarantee it.

Good luck with that.

Makes two of us! my call back period expired in 2000. And since we have other people that can run the companyl, I would go re-enlist if I could.

is like they say.. there is a price for freedom. I love the US!

No, seriously. Good luck. I hope you don't get drafted if it comes to that. They haven't changed the age of the draft age from 18 to 21 that I know of. Anyone else hear different?

I served for 12 years in the Army. I intended to be a 30 year man, but my career was cut short in the first gulf war. I was medically discharged in '92. Since I was injured in '91 I have lived with constant pain and will eventually end up paralyzed. I do not regret having served but I am somewhat bitter about being discharged. I could no longer be involved in any real physical activity but I could have served at a desk somewhere. That is not the military's way and never has been and will never be and I understand that, but I still have a bit of a bitter feeling. If I were fit and not beyond the age limit I would volunteer again. I regret that I could not have finished my career.

By the way...I have zero use for anyone that will not serve when his country calls. If it were my choice I would summarily execute those people on the spot.

If called I would go.

I dont mean to be rude or nothing, but think about if saddam get to launch one of those chemical weapons here? And you cant say it cant happen.. Look at what happened in 9/11. Nobody expected that. Shit can happen..

Ahhhhh... a lover of freedom I see.

Freedom is the best thing you can have.

are you allow to sell porn in iraq?

never seen an iraq based pornsite

Typical republican, wants to execute everyone that does not think like he does.

I am not now nor have I ever been a member of the republican party.

Not conservative enough for you?

Actually.... he is. Freedom is only maintained in this world for those that are also willing to stand up and defend that freedom.

Freedom DOES NOT mean the right to run and hide when your country's freedom is threatened. If it did, you'd be fucking speaking Japanese right now.

There is also the freedom to dissent.

Summary executions are a hallmark of totalitarianism.

The US does not summarily execute those that refuse to serve (as I would) but there is an automatic five year prison term. I suspect that most, if not all countries, will punish those that refuse to serve their country if they are called upon to do so.

In other words, if they don't willingly become cannon fodder for the rich and powerful.

The word "melodramatic" comes to mind when I read a few of the posts here.

Sorry man, I suppose that in cases like Viet Nam where there is no visible "imminent" threat to your country then one could justify your position. But in times like WWII, where there was definitely a visible imminent threat to US soil both from Europe and from Japan, your position is way out to lunch.

You're telling me that if you were of age in 1941 that you would have rather layed down like a fuckdog than got off your ass and help defend your country's soverienty and freedom? I sure fucking hope not, because if you are, you are a disgrace and an insult to everyone who did.



And if there ever was a draft for this middle-east conflict, there would be a damn good reason I'm sure. The existing US military will handle things as they usually do, but if certain happenings came to pass, and things escalated to the point where your country needed to institute a draft, well....... if you dodge it all you'd be saying is that your own slimy worthless hide is worth more to you than your family, you friends, your community and your way of life. Fuck that shit.