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Old 01-04-2012, 04:01 PM   #1
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S.1698 -Enemy Expatriation Act - Taking Away Your American Citizenship

It just keeps getting better and better..

Heads up Americans, here's another incoming zinger from your traitorous government.



S. 1698: Enemy Expatriation Act Introduced in Senate

S 1698 IS
112th CONGRESS
1st Session
S. 1698


To add engaging in or supporting hostilities against the United States to the list of acts for which United States nationals would lose their nationality.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

October 12, 2011

Mr. LIEBERMAN (for himself and Mr. BROWN of Massachusetts) introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

A BILL

To add engaging in or supporting hostilities against the United States to the list of acts for which United States nationals would lose their nationality.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ?Enemy Expatriation Act?.

SEC. 2. LOSS OF NATIONALITY.

(a) In General- Section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1481) is amended--

(1) in subsection (a)--

(A) in each of paragraphs (1) through (6), by striking ?or? at the end;

(B) in paragraph (7), by striking the period at the end and inserting ?; or?; and

(C) by adding at the end the following:

?(8) engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States.?; and

(2) by adding at the end the following:

?(c) For purposes of this section, the term ?hostilities? means any conflict subject to the laws of war.?.

(b) Technical Amendment- Section 351(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1483(a)) is amended by striking ?(6) and (7)? and inserting ?(6), (7), and (8)?.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...bill=s112-1698

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So now in essence if you stand up to the tyrannical government you can be stripped of your citizenship and thrown out of the country!

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don't join al-qaeda and you will have no issues. simple.
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don't join al-qaeda and you will have no issues. simple.
The legislation is purposely vague. Anyone can be ensnared.

"engaging in or supporting hostilities against the United States" ...pretty vague no?


Also, ...who runs Al-Qaeda?

..Oh right, it's the Pentagon and CIA!

Perhaps Pentagon and CIA leaders should more appropriately be thrown out under the Enemy Expatriation Act. Running the Al-Qaeda hoax for all these year seems like "supporting hostilities against the United States" to me.
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Also, ...who runs Al-Qaeda?

..Oh right, it's the Pentagon and CIA!
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don't join al-qaeda and you will have no issues. simple.
Isn't that what they said about the Patriot Act? It is no longer used against terrorists and is now used hundreds of times per year on American citizens in non-terror cases.
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"engaging in or supporting hostilities against the United States"

Define "hostilities" and just who the United States is. For instance, are protesters (violent or not) engaging in hostilities against the US if only a small percentage of the population agrees with them?
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post proof. no youtube videos allowed.
there is never any proof... it's always based on faith... sound familiar?
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great bill if they start with the traitors like lieberman himself who is loyal to israel, where he is also a citizen, over being loyal to the united states
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"engaging in or supporting hostilities against the United States"

Define "hostilities" and just who the United States is. For instance, are protesters (violent or not) engaging in hostilities against the US if only a small percentage of the population agrees with them?
Yeah you'd think something important like that would be defined right in the text or something. Oh wait, it is.

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?(c) For purposes of this section, the term ?hostilities? means any conflict subject to the laws of war.?.
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Good, they're finally making it easier to give up your citizenship.
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Look, I'm not going to do all your homework for you. This stuff is all old news now.

Osama bin Laden was a Western-trained CIA asset with declassified code-name "Tim Osman."

al-Qaeda was created by Osama bin Laden.

From Wikipedia:

al-Qaeda (play /ælˈkaɪdə/ al-ky-də; Arabic: القاعدة‎, al-qāʿidah, Arabic: [ælˈqɑːʕɪdɐ], translation: "The Base" and alternatively spelled al-Qaida and sometimes al-Qa'ida) is a global broad-based militant Islamist terrorist[15] organization founded by Osama bin Laden sometime between August 1988[16] and late 1989

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Al-Qaeda

Remember the Mujahideen that the Pentagon and CIA have admitted that they were running back in 1979-1988 against the Soviets in their war in Afghanistan? Well, what ever happened to all those Western backed assets?

Curious how al-Qaeda was formed in 1988, and the Mujahideen ended the war with the Soviets in 1988..

....hmmm

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don't join al-qaeda and you will have no issues. simple.
So you ever buy anything online? What happens when you buy from an online site that uses their revenue to support terrorism. By making a purchase from them, you also are supporting terrorism. See the correlation?

Using your theory, what were the Jews doing wrong when Hitler and his goons came in the middle of the night?
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Osama bin Laden was a Western-trained CIA asset with declassified code-name "Tim Osman."
there is no reputable source. do you even know who started that conspiracy theory? i know more about the crap you post than you do. sad.
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So you ever buy anything online? What happens when you buy from an online site that uses their revenue to support terrorism. By making a purchase from them, you also are supporting terrorism. See the correlation?
do you really think that will happen? no. just paranoid speculation.
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there is no reputable source. do you even know who started that conspiracy theory? i know more about the crap you post than you do. sad.
I know, you know everything. Excuse me..



Anyways, I'm not going to waster time debating this with you. It's futile. You know everything.
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do you really think that will happen? no. just paranoid speculation.
Do you really think the President would kill U.S. Citizens overseas? Wait, that did happen didn't it? You operate under the delusion that you are not important so why would they want to do this to me, right?

I will say this, at least you make easy to see who the sheep are. Thanks.
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do you really think that will happen? no. just paranoid speculation.
And when it does happen, do you think you will hear about it? Oh that's right, the government doesn't have to do it publicly. Gotcha!
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http://www.911myths.com/html/tim_osm...in_ladin_.html
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I have known these things for the past 5 years, but like Alex Jones I was labeled as a kook and no one would listen.
You will now, I bet!

The state of Israel is going to have you killed if you are not Jewish and part of their system. Its time to wake up now!

and yes.... This has everything to do with Israel

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Kinda of makes civil war impossible now. It cant be civil war if the forces opposing the US government arent US citizens.
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Yeah, 911myths.com your tax dollars at work...

There are lots of debunker websites on the net, and most of them are run by spooks or government agents.
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Nobody cared when Bush started down this path, so why waste my time caring now?

People gave the government momentum out of fear, so fuck them.
Let people get what they allowed. Next time maybe people will be more smart than scared.

LOL @ republicans that don't want to go through airport security and be irradiated.
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The state of Israel (US GOV) and Federal Reserve are in route now to cause all out civil War (Revolution) with new law that will empower them to be able to arrest detain and execute US citizens with out recoil. So anyone who revolts and are against the new government will be arrested and most likely executed in the fema death camps, hence many thousand and thousands of bio coffins placed all over the US from coast to coast.

This is real people, its time to wake up now.

This is the plan to rid the US of 3/4 of the population. You are on the list if you are not part of the state of Israel.

My statements have nothing to do with racism, it is what it is. Do your own research.

The US Gov and Israel are creating propaganda to invade Iran to take the oil, However Russia and Chine will not allow this. We will go into a nuclear war WORLD WAR III

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Yeah, 911myths.com your tax dollars at work...

There are lots of debunker websites on the net, and most of them are run by spooks or government agents.
what is wrong with the information there? name one thing. or are you such a brainwashed sheep you didn't even read it?
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"engaging in or supporting hostilities against the United States"

Define "hostilities" and just who the United States is. For instance, are protesters (violent or not) engaging in hostilities against the US if only a small percentage of the population agrees with them?
"engaging in or supporting hostilities against the United States" is not throwing a bottle or a rock at a police officer during a protest. That's a local crime of assault, not a terroist act. What this law is about is people who leave the US and work directly or in support of a terrorist group that plans on attacking the United States. They are talking about people like John Walker Lindh, who was the American Taliban.

Frankly, if you move to the Middle East, work for a terrorist organization and attempt to intentionally cause harm by supporting a terrorist group, well, you fucking deserve to loose your US Citizenship.
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The US Gov and Israel are creating propaganda to invade Iran to take the oil...
Just like we did with Iraq and Kuwait?
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Just like we did with Iraq and Kuwait?
Exactly.... The US are the War Criminals who hunger for war
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hostilities’ means any conflict subject to the laws of war.’

http://ac-support.europe.umuc.edu/~nstanton/FM27-10.htm
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Just like the PATRIOT Act would not be used against U.S. citizens....except it was used in domestic violence cases, drug cases, etc...
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No "hostile act" means that.

Hostilities


1. hostile state, condition, or attitude; enmity; antagonism; unfriendliness.
2. hostile act.
3.opposition or resistance to an idea, plan, project, etc.
4.hostilities,acts of warfare.

Synonyms
1. animosity, animus, ill will, hatred. 4. fighting, conflict.
i quoted the bill. that is how it is defined there. not a dictionary definition.
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The devil is always in the details. In this proposed bill you need to understand the true meaning/understanding of one word:

Hostility


Hostility is a form of angry internal rejection or denial in psychology. It is a part of personal construct psychology, developed by George Kelly. In everyday speech it is more commonly used as a synonym for anger and aggression.

In psychological terms, Kelly defined hostility as the willful refusal to accept evidence that one's perceptions of the world are in some way askew from or out of alignment with objective reality. Instead of realigning one's feelings and thoughts with objective reality, the hostile person attempts to force or coerce the world to fit their view, even if this is a forlorn hope, and even if it entails varying degrees of emotional expenditure or harm to self and others.

So if "we the people" are pissed off at our Government for any reason, they could strip us of ALL of our rights. This bill is fucking absurd.

As mentioned here, you need to ask yourself, why is the government clamping down so hard on us? - Why are they so afraid?
so revolt? what happened to the constitution basically demanding a revolt against tyranny?

how would you define hostile?

and do you think they'd be allowed to 'strip' the rights away from everyone? games up if everyone knows..
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The US gov is master in using/abusing their citizens and motivating them and other countries to participate in wars that don't exist.

It's all about the money and the power (in this case oil). Let's see when Iran will the next one (they have a lot of oil).
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The US gov is master in using/abusing their citizens and motivating them and other countries to participate in wars that don't exist.

It's all about the money and the power (in this case oil). Let's see when Iran will the next one (they have a lot of oil).
You said it perfect.... This is exactly what is going on. However, Russia and China are no longer going to sit around and allow this to happen. They are tired of the world bullies being the USA who are also the worlds biggest thieves of natural resources and innocent lives.
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The problem is, every day people are charged with "terroristic threat" for nothing more than leaving a nasty voicemail for their ex-boyfriend, using any words like "kick your ass". Under Texas law, for example, any communication that attempts to "place any person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury" qualifies as a terroristic threat.

Obviously saying "I'm going to kick your ass" isn't terrorism, but the charge is used all the time because the wording of the law is so loose. This new bill has the same problem.
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reminded me of this

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As a Canadian, it shocks and saddens me that I may lose my Canadian citizenship and be imprisoned.

Oh wait, what? CANADA! CANADA! CANADA!


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How do you know what is or isn't the governments meaning of Hostilities? That's the point, nether do they and will use that word to cover broadly, arrest you for any reason, as you now don't have any rights to counter unless you're outside the country.

Their problem is now solved, you're gone.
It's called common sense. Again, throwing a rock at a protest is not an act of terrorism against the United States. But if you suddenly move to Afghanistan and you have a garage full of explosives that can be traced the deaths of Americans in a foreign country, you loose your citizenship.
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