Do affiliate programs really care...

[LightscapeMedia]

Do affiliate programs really care if their affiliates ever make a sale? Or are they just as happy with all of the free advertising they get from those who don't really know what they're doing, but placing their banners all over the internet anyways?

[Jakez]

If you have people sending 10-100 sales a day are you going to be helping them with things or go out of your way to get in contact with someone who copy and pasted some promo shit to a random page and sends 10 uniques a day?

[LightscapeMedia]

Originally Posted by Jakez

If you have people sending 10-100 sales a day are you going to be helping them with things or go out of your way to get in contact with someone who copy and pasted some promo shit to a random page and sends 10 uniques a day?

Yes, I understand that.. But that's not really my question.

What I'm really asking is are all the guys who don't know what they're doing and posting their ads all over the net just as valuable as the guy making 10-100 sales per day?

[zurich]

Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia

Do affiliate programs really care if their affiliates ever make a sale? Or are they just as happy with all of the free advertising they get from those who don't really know what they're doing, but placing their banners all over the internet anyways?

They don't care.

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia

Yes, I understand that.. But that's not really my question.

What I'm really asking is are all the guys who don't know what they're doing and posting their ads all over the net just as valuable as the guy making 10-100 sales per day?

All the people together who send multiple sales a day VS all the people who send one sale a month or year. I'd say the multiple sales a day people are far more valuable.

I'm sure all the people who send 10 uniques a day added together make up daily sales (and help branding) so putting them all against one guy who makes sales isn't very fair.

So the way you worded the question I would have to say no IMO.

[StinkyPink]

This shit makes me laugh... if a program wants to make money, it needs sales. EVERY affiliate should be treated fairly. Granted some custom stuff that takes resources to produce for an affiliate perhaps may require some traffic or previous sales of some caliber, but generally speaking no one affiliate is really that much more important to the company.

A perfect example of this sort of behaviour would be like a young aspiring DJ walking into a record store with 10 bucks and can only afford 1 or 2 good records... saving every cent he can to get more records for his collection. After becoming legendary on the wheels of steel he walks into the same record store and the owner says he loves his work and he can have anything he needs, no need to pay.

You just never know when that smaller affiliate will become legendary... wouldnt you want to be on his good side come time to cash in the kudos?

[anexsia]

Originally Posted by StinkyPink

This shit makes me laugh... if a program wants to make money, it needs sales. EVERY affiliate should be treated fairly. Granted some custom stuff that takes resources to produce for an affiliate perhaps may require some traffic or previous sales of some caliber, but generally speaking no one affiliate is really that much more important to the company.

A perfect example of this sort of behaviour would be like a young aspiring DJ walking into a record store with 10 bucks and can only afford 1 or 2 good records... saving every cent he can to get more records for his collection. After becoming legendary on the wheels of steel he walks into the same record store and the owner says he loves his work and he can have anything he needs, no need to pay.

You just never know when that smaller affiliate will become legendary... wouldnt you want to be on his good side come time to cash in the kudos?

Sent just a few sales to one small sponsor in November, asked them if they had any more promo content I could use and they wouldn't respond to any of my messages...December came and my blog promoting them started ranking really well and made them 34 sales last month, now they decided all of a sudden they'll give me some promo content

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia

Do affiliate programs really care if their affiliates ever make a sale? Or are they just as happy with all of the free advertising they get from those who don't really know what they're doing, but placing their banners all over the internet anyways?

I always think the models, affiliate, members, designers, producer, editor & togs, they all take a part in the business!

Without one of them, the whole business doesn't work!

A paysite can make it without affiliates, especially a solo paysite or that of a one man band, but with hard work & lots of galleries put on 'thehun' ;) But if the program wants to survive with a proper business, it needs it's sales team

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by StinkyPink

This shit makes me laugh... if a program wants to make money, it needs sales. EVERY affiliate should be treated fairly. Granted some custom stuff that takes resources to produce for an affiliate perhaps may require some traffic or previous sales of some caliber, but generally speaking no one affiliate is really that much more important to the company.

A perfect example of this sort of behaviour would be like a young aspiring DJ walking into a record store with 10 bucks and can only afford 1 or 2 good records... saving every cent he can to get more records for his collection. After becoming legendary on the wheels of steel he walks into the same record store and the owner says he loves his work and he can have anything he needs, no need to pay.

You just never know when that smaller affiliate will become legendary... wouldnt you want to be on his good side come time to cash in the kudos?

That's a wonderful story.
Experience tells a much different one.

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia

Do affiliate programs really care if their affiliates ever make a sale? Or are they just as happy with all of the free advertising they get from those who don't really know what they're doing, but placing their banners all over the internet anyways?

The whole point of the affiliate business model is that everyone's fortunes are linked. If my affiliates didn't make money, then SpookyCash wouldn't make money. Free advertising which does not equal sales is worth what one paid for it.

[OldJeff]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

That's a wonderful story.
Experience tells a much different one.

Quoted For Truth

[Cherry7]

Originally Posted by LightscapeMedia

Do affiliate programs really care if their affiliates ever make a sale? Or are they just as happy with all of the free advertising they get from those who don't really know what they're doing, but placing their banners all over the internet anyways?

The vast majority of affiliates send very little traffic and have little chance of making sales. Sometimes they have a site with small traffic and yet hundreds of links to pay-sites.
We send them all as much help as possible.


We try do as much as possible for affiliates, based on common sense and our ability to help.

We believe we help the affiliates best by making our site exclusive original and different from any other.

[Nydahl]

I know nothing about sponsors politics or affiliates needs - what I know is that it doesn't matter much anyway - this fucked-up free biz or so called "industry" is going to change from the inside anyway soon so....

[Nicky]

All affiliates are entitled to some attention. Some guys think they can request custom designs/banners and promo content weekly and send 1 sale a month though which is a bit over the top.

I'll gladly supply those kind of things to anyone who can or at least think they can send some sales because of It

The affiliates sending sales are ofc more "valuable" than those who don't. That's just basic.

[Kenny B!]

Any program that is revshare cares, if the affiliate doesn't make money neither does the program owner.

Originally Posted by StinkyPink

This shit makes me laugh... if a program wants to make money, it needs sales. EVERY affiliate should be treated fairly. Granted some custom stuff that takes resources to produce for an affiliate perhaps may require some traffic or previous sales of some caliber, but generally speaking no one affiliate is really that much more important to the company.

Affiliates in general are all treated fairly, not always equal as an affiliate sending 10 daily sales will be a higher priority for support and rightly so. But ALL affiliates need to be supported no matter the size. From my experience (of course there are exceptions) the affiliates that send the most sales need the least hand holding and support, they have their well oiled machine already.

Regardless, every affiliate should be getting great support, there are enough programs out there that if you aren't getting what you need there's no shortage of other sites to promote.

[Cherry7]

"Think not what your sponsor can do for you, but what you can do for your sponsor"

Kennedy

[GregE]

I don't know, maybe it's the niche, maybe it's the affiliate, but I sure as hell get plenty of sales from my affiliates and I'm grateful for each and every one of them

[blackmonsters]

My experience is that most sponsors care about affiliates.

There are simply sponsors with different controls/rules.

[Sharky]

Originally Posted by Kenny B!

Any program that is revshare cares, if the affiliate doesn't make money neither does the program owner.



Affiliates in general are all treated fairly, not always equal as an affiliate sending 10 daily sales will be a higher priority for support and rightly so. But ALL affiliates need to be supported no matter the size. From my experience (of course there are exceptions) the affiliates that send the most sales need the least hand holding and support, they have their well oiled machine already.

Regardless, every affiliate should be getting great support, there are enough programs out there that if you aren't getting what you need there's no shortage of other sites to promote.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

[CurrentlySober]

i called up my aff manager on the phone, cause I couldn't sleep...

He read me a story over the phone, until I fell asleep...

Only problem was that I fell asleep with the phone connected, it was a premium rate number, and they didn't put the phone down at their end...

But it was cool. It only cost me $689.00

Actually now I think, it may not have been an aff manager, but a phone sex line...


When your as drunk as I am, the speaking clock could read me a story...

[shimmy2]

i thought affiliate programs were just in place for review sites to get linkcodes

[brassmonkey]

nice ratios
vidz

[ajrocks]

Some programs do care. It's in the best interest of the program for your traffic to convert. It costs money to load pages and banners, free advertising isn't making a program money, sales make money. If a program isn't trying to convert your traffic better with conversion testing tools or by just offering advice don't send them your traffic.

[garce]

Of course they care. Try sending 50k+ hits without getting a single sale and see how quickly you're flagged. If you don't get contacted, you're getting shaved.

I haven't worked in almost a year but even before that I had long since stopped sending a "lot" of sales to single programs. I keep getting contacted, though, with reps asking me what's wrong and/or if everything's ok.

If I ever get motivated enought to jump back into this business, I know who I'll be working with.

Yup - whoopy shit. Good for me.

[MrMaxwell]

I am not going to read all of this, so if it is covered, sorry

Are the idiots who send tiny amounts of traffic and no joins worth anything in terms of branding? Collectively, sure. On a case by case basis - of course not.

[2intense]

they don't care..........

[seeandsee]

they care as much as i care about full moon this night

[MichaelP]

Every Affiliate is IMPORTANT !